Arsenal – Everton: predicted line-up

The Toffees are coming to town and once again we are warned about their strength in advance. Beating Manure at Old Toilet is never easy, and although Everton rode their luck, they did deserve their win during midweek. A win for Everton would put them back into the mix for the top positions and so they will be both full of confidence and very focussed, and yet not too nervous as nobody really expects them to be able to compete for the top-four places.

Key for Arsenal is to treat this game as a cup final and nothing else. Let’s not think for a second about Napoli or the Northern Oilers but just about giving our all to beat the Toffees today. A seven point gap with the Southern Oilers is up for grabs and Maureen will not give us too many opportunities like these. We need to grab this one and push on, show them all who is boss in the PL and create some lovely winter-fat for the festive season.

We are lucky to go into this busy and important period with a nearly fit squad, especially at the back and in midfield. Sagna will not play today and Pod is not ready yet, but other than Ox and Diaby’s longer term injuries, Wenger can pick from a complete squad in the next few weeks.

Predicted Line-up:

Arsenal v Everton

I reckon Ramsey will be rested for this one and so will Rosicky (both on bench though). Everton are strong in the centre of midfield – typical Martinez – and we need to win the battle there first. That’s why I am going for defensive solidity first and have put Arteta and Flamini in the double DM-pivot. This will allow Ozil, Jack and Santi to combine at will with the full-backs and our pivot in attack, Giroud – who I reckon will start today. But Wenger might surprise us all again and start with Bendtner and/or Theo, or one of the youngsters.

However, this is a must win game and I reckon he will start with his strongest team possible. Winning today will mean a lot more than adding three points to our tally in the PL: today we can make a real statement of intent. And losing would also mean a lot more than missing out on ‘just’ three points.

Anyway, let’s hope our team wins: three very big points up for grabs today. COYG!

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163 Responses to Arsenal – Everton: predicted line-up

  1. shitu sys says:

    I like to see Ramsey start at first but how about walcott and Podolski they can play where is Rosicky He is intellegent player at the end Arsenal 2 – 0 Everton today up OZIL

  2. udoh says:

    rambo will strt ahead of flamboyant

  3. Gerry says:

    Yes TA – I’d settle for that .. if only those named are fit?

    But no surprise if Le Flam is out, and Walcott comes, or even Santi rested, and Ramsey stays in.

    Giro up front largely depends on how serious his ‘niggle’ is.

    As for youngster? Nah. I don’t even expect Gnabry on the bench. now. Given that the ones not starting will be on the bench, so places are pretty near filled. The only possibility would be Hayden if Flamini is ruled out completely, and that would depend whether his ban only affected the Youth competition. But with Vermaelin, Monreal, Walcott, Ramsey, Rosicky, and Bendtner all likely with a GK .. just no room at the inn?

    Perhaps coming back to a point you made yesterday about us playing well irrespective of personnel I think that has yet to be fully tested. As long as we have Oxil, plus any two from three out of Rosicky, Ramsey, and Wilshere, you can then add Santi, Walcott, or Gnabry with little impact on ‘the balance’, but if, from your team listed, you take out Flamini and Wilshere drops back, then I think his replacement has to be Rosicky or Ramsey. I would go so far as to say, we might cope better, in terms of balance, if Ozil dropped out and Santi plays the roving central role …. as long as there are two of the three playing alongside, or in Ramsey’s case, coming from deeper.

    I think there is a case of naughty tricks being played here, with a convenient rumour emerging just before the match, that Coleman might be a target for us? Just to make him think twice about hacking Ozil’z legs from under him perhaps? Whatever, I still think it shows that sense of arrogance that we get labelled with, to think that Everton are the same club that use to have to let players go. Heavens above, if they get into the CL next season that pretty near covers their entire wage bill. Not to mention they only just signed the guy. A bit naughty as I say?

  4. Gerry says:

    Just 3 hours to go, where is everybody?

  5. James Bond says:

    007 reporting for duty @ Gerry

    nice one @ TA – you may have gotten it right but i reckon Ramsey will start alongside Arteta with JW on the left, the trip are developing a very solid partnership and understanding

    agreed, Rosicky, he will be benched or may not even be on the bench , since both him and Flamini are a must have in the starting 11 for Naples ?

    Everton like to come out and play, so i do expect plenty of goals , so i am gonna go for a 3-1 to Arsenal, although would love 3-0 but i reckon Sczny still has that moment of insanity in him.

    anything other than 3 points today and we give everyone else below us hope, we grab 3 points and it’s a major shot to everyone’s title ambitions and they can kiss it good bye !

  6. AFC says:

    TA, great preview for a tough match. :)

    I’d rest Ozil and Ramsey and have one of these two line-ups:

    Szez, Jenks, Mert, Kos, Gibbs, Flamini, Arteta, Walcott, Santi, Wilshere, Giroud. Santi in the hole to drift from the centre to the left to overload the left flank with Wilshere and Gibbs and to drift from the centre to the right to overload the right flank with Walcott and Jenks.

    OR

    Szez, Jenks, Mert, Kos, Gibbs, Flamini, Arteta, Wilshere, Rosicky, Santi, Giroud. Santi in the middle of the ’3′ if you want the CAM to drift or Rosicky in the middle of the ’3′ if you want the CAM to stay more central.

  7. AB says:

    Good stuff TA. Both Oz and Ram need a rest sometime soon. Can’t do both together – not against Everton anyway. I wonder if we risk benching Oz? Hope Gir and Flam fit as this run of games will be mighty tough without them. Would like to see Walcott get a proper run out today.

  8. James Bond says:

    disagreed with those wanting OZil and Ramsey rested, there is no room nor this the time to rest anyone.

    we have 3 more games before we get a sort of German style Winter break before our next game – these are top level professionals, who can take being played week in week out at an optimum level.

    Ramsey has a good engine, he needs to be playing, as has Ozil (look at his stats for RM and the matches he has played).

    all these players can rest plenty on their way to naples when they are on the plane.

  9. Gerry says:

    Nice optimism JB – I want the line up confirmed before I get too carried away . I mean, there is a positive even if we lose today … We will have dropped only a point to our nearest challenger?

    I just wonder if Everton can put back to back performances, with this one being away from home?

    But it is really more about how our game flows.

    Which is why I don’t think AFC, both Ramsey and Ozil will be rested. To give Santi a boost, it could be Ozil, who may lie a trip to Naples?

  10. AB says:

    Hope you are right JB. But we have a squad now, and we can’t afford to injure players through basic over-use. I have a similar concern over BFG, though he covers less ground. With the squad we have I would expect us to be able to beat Everton without one of either Ram or Oz playing. We shall see soon enough.

  11. James Bond says:

    the signs are looking positive Gerry,

    Hull beat liverpool – we beat them

    Cardiff shocked man utd- we beat them

    Everton shocked man utd – we are going to beat them (please, do wear the lucky scarf !

    as good as Everton have been, i just don’t think anyone is good enough for us , provided we play to our relative best and error free, no one is capable of matching us , however, we have a bad day and even a struggling west ham or west brom can give us a run for our money.

    all I’m trying to say here is that, we have enough quality through the center to counter what ever Everton chuck at us, they like playing through the lines , which means – plenty of gaps and space left for our midfielders to have a field day.

  12. Gerry says:

    Yes, AB, I find it strange that AW is being very tentative about Walcott’s injury recovery. Without Baines in their side, it could be a could time to give him a start. But I suspect that as with Gibbs a while back, abdominal hernias may be prone to re-occurring?

    Still, it will not be long before we find out who’s in and who’s out …

  13. James Bond says:

    yes, we are a squad now and that squad was used mighty effectively on wednesday

    and we can use it again after 60/65 minutes today, after we have controlled and won the game in that period, no worries

    today’s game for me is more important than the one we play next saturday against Man city

    Everton was the team that cost us a 2nd or 3rd place finish last season, we dropped 4 points to them last season

    if we are to be champions then Everton needs to be a 6 pointer, if not 4, 2 points again this season be not acceptable , i reckon.

  14. James Bond says:

    maybe Theo hasn’t been doing as well in Training and AW thinks he needs more training sessions under his before, before he starts games for us ? or perhaps he may surprise us all by starting him today or on wednesday ?

    either way, it’s only good for a very busy december and january to have such options and fresh players coming in, who are hungry, determined and want to keep the momentum going, when need be.

    team news should be coming out in the next 10 @ Gerry – not long now

  15. James Bond says:

    *belt

  16. I’m here…Sunlight just starting to show and very cold (-12 F, -24 C, says the weather page…) behind our 1.5 feet of new snow…

    I don’t know where people get these notions that Ramsey and/or Ozil will rest when they both seem like they can run and run AND when AW has shown that he thinks likewise. They also seem to be at the very heart of our goals. I guess you guys think the manager is just plain wrong… rolly eyes would be the smiley of choice…Reading back, I guess I’m with Bond on this one…

    As such the only question is whether we start with Jack or with Theo. (Flamini also drops to the bench) Seems to me the manager likes the 5 MFs buzzing around so that means Arteta, Ramsey, Santi, Messy and Jack with Theo coming off the bench. As always, however, WTF do I know?…

    I have great respect for Martinez and he is the guy I’d like to see when AW’s time at the helm ends. I would love to see him get a little CL experience under his belt and 4th seems a legitimate target this season. This is not an easy match but given that they’ve already taken 3 at OT they can afford to give us the points today. Likewise we need them because ManCity can play a shadow squad in their CL match while ours is critical (winning the group is a big deal)… Getting anything next Saturday would be a great bonus and I wouldn’t look past Weng-viruses or the like up there…

    Lineups out soon, so all this back and forth will be moot…

  17. Testing, testing…My longer comment appears to need moderation…

  18. AFC says:

    I believe we are on 34 points having played 14 games. So that means we need to get at least 11 points from our next 5 EPL games to reach the 45 point mark mid-season, a win at Everton would leave us needing 9 points in the 4 EPL games after Everton. Can it be done? I think so and that’s the point where United and Spurs can wave bye to the EPL. :)

  19. James Bond says:

    Arsenal: Szczesny, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Gibbs, Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Giroud. Subs: Vermaelen, Walcott, Monreal, Fabianski, Bendtner, Flamini, Rosicky.

    Everton: Howard, Coleman, Jagielka, Distin, Oviedo, McCarthy, Barry, Mirallas, Barkley, Pienaar, Lukaku. Subs: Robles, Heitinga, Jelavic, Naismith, Osman, Stones, Deulofeu.

    Referee: Howard Webb (South Yorkshire)

  20. mike says:

    If you are going to rest Ozil or Ramsey, then it has to be done to reflect their strengths. Everton game will be played offensively, and for that to happen, Ozil has to play. Napoli game will need a more defensive mindset, and Ramsey gives you that without sacrificing the offensive side.
    There is no way we play Flamini and Arteta at home against Everton, that is a Etihad line-up. Everton deserve respect, but not reverence. Playing both Flamini and Arteta is way too much caution.

  21. James Bond says:

    no ones rested, and i got the team spot on – now let’s get my 3-1 prediction spot on as well boys, COYG !!!

  22. 17highburyterrace says:

    Hey boys, can anybody see my comments from above? They seem to be in moderation…

    Of course we’re going to play both Rambo and Ozil, why would wouldn’t we?… ‘puter giving me frustration this morning…

  23. James Bond says:

    no, can’t do, maybe copy paste them into 2 different comments, break them down @ 17HT ?

  24. 17highburyterrace says:

    It’s working now that I’ve logged into wordpress…

    Maybe the comments will show up later…I was going a bit rolly eyed at those who would suggest that we would rest Rambo and/or Ozil… Doesn’t matter now that the team sheets are out…

    The only question for me was whether it would be Jack or Theo and I figured AW would stick with Jack…So I was right as well…

    Anyhow, the squad is good and I think we can take this one…

  25. 17highburyterrace says:

    Oh, I guess I did mention the weather–Current temp–according to my weather page–is -14F (-26C)…That’s cold….but nice for the skiing after the 20 inches of snow we got. Sunny but the high only goes to 24F (-5 C)… Cozy in the house with floor heat and fire going, however…

    Sounds like AW is gonna sign a new contract once the CL group is concluded….

  26. James Bond says:

    agreed @ 17HT

    but i hope, i managed to put across your point of view solidly , even though your comments are locked up ?

    score predictions for this one ?

  27. Gerry says:

    Yes, this team has the right ingredients. I am happy.

    Agreed on Walcott, as seen on the bench again.

    And Flamini, Hopeful in Naples? Better for the City clash though .. if I am choosing?

  28. AFC says:

    Anyone know when Sagna will be back?

  29. Gerry says:

    … and the scarf is on !

  30. Gerry says:

    AFC City with a bit of luck

  31. 17highburyterrace says:

    Indeed James, I was agreeing with your line-up ideas…I’m not sure where people come up with these ideas about resting the guys who can run all day… Ah well, that’s why I like our manager…

    Flamini (and Nacho and maybe Verm) off the bench if we’re protecting a result…Theo (Bendy and Sicky) if we’re chasing…

    I think this will be a strong performance but the scoreline will see you a bitch twitchy…2-1, I say…

  32. James Bond says:

    for man city @ AFC

    cheers @ Gerry
    :)

  33. AFC says:

    Thanks Gerry, off now to watch. :)

  34. Dylan says:

    Hello Gooners! ;)

  35. 17highburyterrace says:

    Hey Dylan, long time…

    Minute of clapping for Mandela…Everton kick off…

  36. Gerry says:

    Dylan – You are alive and well then/

  37. Dylan says:

    I am indeed alive, although school is killing me! ;) Excited for the game today though! Could be 7 points clear!

  38. James Bond says:

    a bitch twitchy start then.

  39. 17highburyterrace says:

    All Everton in the first 5 mins and we don’t quite look prepared to match their pace on the break nor clear our lines convincingly…

  40. Dylan says:

    Everton running themselves too hard. They’ll be tired quickly. We just need to focus defensively and hit them on the counter.

  41. 17highburyterrace says:

    Both teams enjoying the pace of the match and playing without the cynicism that might slow things down…

    Per cleaning a bunch of stuff coming down our right side…Seems to me like the pace of Theo could be useful today on the break…

    Everton get the first corner…

  42. Dylan says:

    They’re pushing everything down our right. Theo on that side could be useful on the counter, I agree.

  43. 17highburyterrace says:

    Hey Dylan…Are you playing football (soccer) as well?

    We need to get a bit of possession and some bodies forward…All defense so far…and Jack gives a FK….

  44. Dylan says:

    I am indeed playing football. Should be a yellow card for Barry.

  45. 17highburyterrace says:

    Ozil lands hard (fouled) and slows things down a bit… We’re definitely having trouble getting into the match and holding the ball…

    Rambo fouled….

  46. 17highburyterrace says:

    Santi overhits one…Everton are pushing hard and fouling hard…First goal is huge…If we can get it they may fold…

    Giroud slams the guy who blocks him off!

  47. Dylan says:

    Some yellows need to start coming out.

  48. AFC says:

    Arsenal vs. Spurs in the FA Cup 3rd round.

  49. James Bond says:

    who ever tires first, suffer

    and a great FA cup draw, are we at home @ AFC ?

    when do we play them ?

  50. AFC says:

    Dylan, agreed but Howard Webb is a lenient ref who likes to let the game flow.

  51. 17highburyterrace says:

    Gibbs crosses to no one…Has either team actually gotten a shot on target?…

    A little more possession would be a treat…

    Well, that’s an interesting draw, AFC

  52. Dylan says:

    What on earth are we doing?

  53. Gerry says:

    Drawn Spurs in the FA cup – at home!

  54. James Bond says:

    Everton have not only surprised us but also rattled us, am i worried ? is it a bitch twitchy ?

    not until we concede a goal it’s not.

  55. 17highburyterrace says:

    Rambo struggling but cleans up his mistake in our half…Their rushing when they get in good positions but we can’t seem to hold the ball….

  56. AFC says:

    JB, we’re at home. Match will be played January 4th or 5th.

  57. James Bond says:

    oh my Gibbs, nearly scored and should have scored

    what a ball from Santiago, Giroud needed to be there instead of Gibbs and it would have been 1-0 to us, bugger

    but that’s better, hit them on the counter !

  58. Dylan says:

    Should have been a corner. Gibbs would’ve reached it if it wasn’t tipped.

  59. Gerry says:

    I would not expect them to tire too much as they have several players who tend to keep going?

  60. 17highburyterrace says:

    OOOH Gibbs with a Gerninho-esque whiff on a great cross from Santi…

    FK dangerous spot won by Barkley…Dive? Rambo got ball, no?

  61. James Bond says:

    i’m looking forward to it already, let’s pile on the misery on the spuds , some more ehhh @ AFC

    but first let us take care of a very spirited Everton side.

  62. 17highburyterrace says:

    Meant Gervinho of course…Didn’t see the tip, Dylan…

    Jack and Gibbs confused trying to play it out of our half…Everton pressure is strong…

  63. James Bond says:

    ha;f time can’t come soon enough for Arsenal, let’s calm down lads, keep the ball and let them come to us @ JAcky boy

  64. Dylan says:

    It was an immediate tip from whoever the defender closest to Santi was.

  65. AFC says:

    17ht, it will be a very interesting as I suspect Spurs will play a decent team. We probably will not be able to play our youth team.

    God this match is tight!

  66. 17highburyterrace says:

    Yeah, it appears that we just don’t like the pace of the match as much as our opponents…

    We’re defending very well, however…

    Santi and Rambo having a real struggle doing some basic stuff…

  67. Dylan says:

    I don’t like this lack of Gnabry on the bench that we’ve had the past few games.

  68. James Bond says:

    can the REAL ARSENAL please stand up, please stand up…

  69. James Bond says:

    where are the fcuking yellow cards @ the ref you tw@t

  70. Dylan says:

    Howard Webb is a moron.

  71. James Bond says:

    JW down, maybe a blessing in disguise as we need a pause in the game to regain focus.

  72. James Bond says:

    world class recovery from KOC on the beast Lukaku, WOW

  73. 17highburyterrace says:

    Ankle kick by Coleman on Jack…AW doesn’t like it… Ozil’s got the pace but will only make the run on the break when it’s really on…As such, I think Theo might be needed…Kos and Lukaku having quite the battle…

  74. Dylan says:

    Should be a yellow for Lukaku.

  75. 17highburyterrace says:

    Good keeping from Howard….finally the yellow for G Barry…We’re making the better chances now…

  76. Dylan says:

    Giroud should know not to chip Howard, he needs to poke it underneath him.

  77. James Bond says:

    why on earth are we so hell bent on passing the ball into the back of the net when we are on a one on one with the keeper ? just bloody shoot Ramsey instead of passing it in, arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    much better though

    HT>

  78. 17highburyterrace says:

    Awfully good pressure and cool stuff with Ramsey’s dummy but Tim Howard was there…

    I know folks with be bitch twitchy but we’re coming into the match quite well and our subs will make the difference if can can’t get the first goal before the hour mark…They look good in our half but the chances they’re making are all long and wide. Ours are through the center and if not for good keeping we’d already have the lead. Overall a great, fast paced, committed match…

  79. James Bond says:

    exactly @ Dylan

    our players need to bloody shoot not place or chip or pass it in, go for brute force, this way even if it hits the keeper, it has a great chance of bouncing back to an arsenal player for a re-bound #schoolboy

  80. James Bond says:

    the plan was always to control the game until 60 minutes , keep it at 0-0 , let everton simmer down and tire before we show them how it’s done ? not gone all to plan but we can still execute it rather well after the WENGER talk at half time @ 17HT

    not quite bitch twitchy yet though, just mightily frustrating – we have had 2 glorious one on one’s and we should have done better – as you will know, i’m a fan of power/shooting it in instead of placing it when in such situations.

    Howard is the 2nd best keeper in the fantasy PL for a reason.

  81. James Bond says:

    Everton have been effective because they have kept our FB’s occupied , in order for the Real Arsenal to step up, we need at least one of our FB’s to be playing their forward game, at the moment Everton have done well on the wider areas.

  82. 17highburyterrace says:

    IMO we’ve struggled with the basics in MF and our younger guys have some trouble moving to provide outlets for our ball carriers under pressure. It’s getting better but if we’re gonna play so wide open I think Theo would really help us…

    Bond, I haven’t seen the long shooting opportunities, but maybe that’s because they’re always looking pass. Santi looks small and off the pace in this match but he could surprise at any moment. Obviously Ozil doesn’t like the intensity of the tackling… Ramsey’s troubles beg the question–is he a flat track bully? My call is that these three will ALL play a part in the first goal before the hour mark… :D

  83. James Bond says:

    let’s hope so @ 17HT

    here we go, 2nd half time

  84. 17highburyterrace says:

    Agreed James. It’s very interesting that their chances are all out wide while ours (except the Santi to Gibbs cross) are through the middle. Sir Chez has yet to make a save, but Howard’s have been not that hard…

    The other Howard (Webb) might be expected to step in and change the match if the intensity picks up where it left off…

    2nd half going…

  85. 17highburyterrace says:

    We’re looking better early on this period…Theo warming up seems good…

    Maybe our 38 % possession stat probably got put up on the white-board…

  86. 17highburyterrace says:

    Bit of Everton on the break and Sir Chez finally has to make a save…Jenks does enough on the ensuing cross…

    Ozil fouled after very good work and a knock down from Giroud…

  87. 17highburyterrace says:

    Wow–Ramsey volleyed effort on target from a tough angle…Get Theo on, I say…

  88. Dylan says:

    Nice acrobatic shot from Rambo.

  89. Dylan says:

    Theo needs to come on for Santi.

  90. 17highburyterrace says:

    Ramsey gives and gets on McCarthy…OK the hour has passed….Theo please to win this…

  91. 17highburyterrace says:

    Good chance there on the break but wrong pass chosen…

    Subs coming…

  92. Dylan says:

    Ozil=Bergkamp

  93. 17highburyterrace says:

    Wow from Ozil but can’t break the double team.

    Jenks good at the other end…Arteta too…

  94. AFC says:

    Flamini, Rosicky and Walcott all coming on!!!

  95. Dylan says:

    What is Rosicky going to give us that Ramsey can’t?

  96. Dylan says:

    And Flamini for Jack?? For the first time on a while I disagree with Wenger.

  97. AFC says:

    Ramsey, Wilshere, Santi all off!!!

  98. 17highburyterrace says:

    Looks like a triple sub coming…Sicky, Theo, Flam… Kids and Santi off…

    Miscommunication between Jack and Arteta almost cost us…

  99. AFC says:

    Dylan, Ramsey and Wilshere have been disappointing today.

  100. Dylan says:

    Ramsey has been, but I thought Jack had been quite good.

  101. 17highburyterrace says:

    Triple sub is a big risk if anybody takes a knock….Otherwise, I like it…

    Great camera work on Flams saying “listen to me!”

  102. 17highburyterrace says:

    Flams wide but tough angle…

  103. AFC says:

    Dylan, both haven’t looked sharp IMO and we now need the pace of Walcott to try and break down Everton.

  104. Dylan says:

    Totally agree with Theo for Santi and Flamini for Ramsey. Just not sure about Rosicky for Jack. I’d be happy to be proven wrong!

  105. 17highburyterrace says:

    Sicky looked good just there, mopping up after Theo kept the long ball in but then gave it away…Barca kid getting ready…

    We need to get the goal here…

    Howard given yellow for time wasting…

  106. James Bond says:

    bitch twitchy time now…

  107. 17highburyterrace says:

    Good play from Everton and they had chances from the Corner…Kos getting to balls is key…

    OZIL !!!!!

    They’re done now

  108. AFC says:

    Ozil!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  109. James Bond says:

    yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

    it always fucking workssssssssssssssssssssssssss

    bitch twitchy time

    GOAllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    ozillllllllll you lil beautyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

    i love youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

  110. 17highburyterrace says:

    What a whiff from Giroud!! but Messy backs him up….

  111. James Bond says:

    HI-FIVE @ 17HT – always works, what did i tell ya ;)

    wo0000000000000000t wo000000000000000000000000000000000000t

  112. Prince says:

    FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHH. I Could even do a group hug.

    C’MON ARSENAL

  113. AFC says:

    If we can hang on, we’ll be 7 points clear at the top of the EPL.

  114. James Bond says:

    now keep the balls boys, let’s have the perfect 10 minutes defensively and hit them again on the counter

  115. 17highburyterrace says:

    Hey Princy…Where you been?

  116. Prince says:

    If Ozil wasnt following Girouds run, would Webb have called the foul, red and penalty on the big man. I bet 2 Big Macs hed do a U turn and disappear

  117. AFC says:

    SHIT!!! We’re back where we started.

  118. 17highburyterrace says:

    Delafeo….Shit…

  119. James Bond says:

    Sczny, should have done better
    dang,

    1-1

  120. Prince says:

    Thats what happens when you underrate a player and give him an extra half a metre.

  121. James Bond says:

    bitch twitchy time again….

    in all honesty, sczny should have punched that one away, major let down and let off

  122. Dylan says:

    Such a high kick from Lukaku. Should not have been allowed to continue. Should still be 1-0.

  123. James Bond says:

    gibbs – should have closed him down as well, that was bad bad bad.

    but no worries, still got time to win this one , come on boys !

  124. 17highburyterrace says:

    Gotta get the ball now…I dunno about the blame on Sir Chez…Gibbs needs to know that the kid is all right foot…

  125. Prince says:

    Hey 17. Work has got me by the short and curlys at the moment and im not liking this new pattern evolving with this bird that im seeing. Should all be back to normal soon though

  126. James Bond says:

    fcuking ref, get a grip

  127. 17highburyterrace says:

    The kid chases and fouls old man Sicky…

    C’mon guys…FK and crosses have them worried…Corner coming…

  128. Prince says:

    Please Arsenal, we so need this

  129. Prince says:

    Cmon, time for at least 1 counter. Please please

  130. 17highburyterrace says:

    Flams whiffs with Howard out of position…

    Time wasting now…earlier save by Sir Chez should’ve been called for offsides…

  131. Prince says:

    I would have been dirrrty with Mikel for ages if that went pear

  132. James Bond says:

    wtf @ Arteta

    why the hell was he running towards his own goal with the ball when Lukaku is onto him

    arghhhhhhhhhhh

    i’ll take a draw right now, thank you very much.

  133. 17highburyterrace says:

    Giroud soooo close…shit…

  134. James Bond says:

    Giroud hits the bar

    arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    last kick of the game ?

    i reckon.

  135. Dylan says:

    How did that not go in…

  136. James Bond says:

    Gibbs most likely the culprit there with the goal, is he better than Nacho ? i doubt it.

    but a bit disappointed at Sczny as well, i expected him to save that one,

    never mind, a point is better than 3 lost.

  137. 17highburyterrace says:

    Great match… Shame about the Barca kid scoring on us…

    Barkley being given MOTM here on the American broadcast…

  138. Prince says:

    I CAN NOT BELIEVE WHAT I JUST WITNESSED. That deserved a goal……………….ARRRGH Im not happy with the score. No blaming, just greedy. Off to work and i have the slowest days on a draw or loss. Last year work was torture. All you boys, be good. Catch ya L8rZ

  139. James Bond says:

    i don’t like webb, he’s too laid back, relaxed and less action when necessary (bookings) he did the same with the final in 2010

  140. macko says:

    Why put Gibbs when we have Nacho Monreal on the bench???
    Olivier Giroud is lamentable highly another front center, only a shot in a match!! What can we say

  141. AFC says:

    At least we got a point, 5 points clear at the top of the EPL. It could have been worse and we could have lost. Let’s hope for a reaction against City, Chelsea and Napoli with the City and Chelsea fixtures being more important than the match today.

    And with that I’m off, nice speaking to you guys. :)

  142. 17highburyterrace says:

    IMO just a bit more maturity and (maybe) cynicism is what was missing today. We need to hold the ball better in the center of the pitch and let Webb slow the match with some whistles… Theo as a match for their pace from the start would also have been good…My feeling is that our foreign guys (Santi, Ozil) don’t want to use the ref for “cultural reasons” while our young guys (Ramsey, Wilshere) just expect to carry the ball out of trouble…At least nobody got hurt–there were a lot of full blooded tackles flying in… Giroud’s effort and the general work at the end impressed me…We’re still a quality “team”…

    Princey–good luck with the work and the birds…Sounds like a younger man’s gam…

  143. 17highburyterrace says:

    Everton are good, and Barkley impressed today. Still their attack is really two guys on loan… Glic is right to get the boing going for Delofeu… If they keep those two in January there’s no reason they won’t make forth and take points from City…Against Chelsea, of course, Lukaku doesn’t play…

  144. 17highburyterrace says:

    Looks like everybody else is gone…so, one final thing…the triple sub indicates (to me, at least…) that the starting group wasn’t quite right. If we’re going to allow an open game we need Theo from the start. If we want to control the center and win through possession then maybe Flams is the man…

    For me, Monreal gives us a little extra going forward and playing smart (i.e. their goal)…Gibbs makes a lot of great recovery plays on D but can hurt us when it comes to possession. Is it fair to say we didn’t use our two best FBs today?…I think it might be…

  145. proudgooner says:

    I feel like we are hard done by not to have won, but Everton are a very good side much much stronger then last season under Moyes. United should have took a punt on Martinez instead. It was a very good point still many of our rivals will drop points to Everton.
    I think the man who should have started for us was Rosicky! He made things happen when came on .
    COYG to Napoli now.

  146. Gerry says:

    Sounded a good game fro the neutrals? £ points would have been better, but a draw means Man C did not gain on us?

    As I said earlier, if it were a choice, I take the next two wins and be happy with today’s draw.

    TCM – I trust you will shell out .69p for a vote for the West country boy Luke Friend – X-Factor.
    Most original talent in the show, if anybody else is looking to vote?

    … Yes, I know, but it is one of my ‘guilty pleasures’, these talent shows.

  147. proudgooner says:

    Gerry,
    I heard vthe 1st half on the radio and the fiorst 30 mins Everton were very much on top, i watched the second and thought we were by far the better side. But every time they broke forward they looked dangerous with there 2 loan men and though we defended well you could sense some nerves to get the result a draw was ok but i feel we were hard done by,
    p.s il be watch the snooker final myself, not really in to the x-factor anymore

  148. Gerry says:

    I have to agree the X-Factor, particularly the US one has gone downhill. But I record and watch later. That way I can cut the adds out. That said, Luke is very good, and he has my vote already. I don’t normally bother with voting so they have to be a bit special.

    I will watch the match on the ‘Pl;ayer later but I thought the commentators saying about being 7 points clear were a bit premature.

    As to the earlier question why play Gibbs .. it’s all part of the rotation. Nacho will be in for Napoli. Also the triple subbing meant we could bring on Nacho when we score? But that is hindsight for you?

  149. Gerry says:

    The snooker should be good. Robertson and the ‘Jester from Leicester’. I favour the former as he had the extra rest day?

  150. 17highburyterrace says:

    X-factor and snooker notwithstanding, is anybody gonna write a match report?…

    It was great to see Dylan in the MDC (match day chat) so maybe he should be the guy…If not I could do it (after my ski out the door here in a minute)…but it would just be a rehash of the stuff I thought during the match…Lemme know, ToTL, if that would give you some respite from your labors (labours?)….(It would be my 5th, so then I’d get my own tag-line at the top, no?…)

    Cheers…

  151. Prince says:

    Put your hand up if you have ever used ‘cracked tooth’ as an excuse for taking the day off? I threw in something about ‘nerves’ for good measure. Haha, but whats even funnier is that i work for myself and called my labourer to tell him he is on his own today and that he has to finish a certain section of a floor in a major shopping centre. Oh poor poor kid. Id love to see the look on his face when he finds out there is no material there and the foreman on site is in on the whole act and starts piling on the pressure. “Where is your boss, when you gonna complete this? Whattya mean you have no material….mate thats not good enough! Get your boss on the phone, before i kick ya’s off site”. hahaha, the joys of a Monday morning prank on the young ‘un. Priceless!

    17HT,
    Younger man’s game? ..Nah, jus look to ‘Uncle Vicky Victaguarana’ for some inspiration. Glic reckons he is older than a fossil, but somehow he pushes himself to get up on that shiny new zimmer of his every bleeding morning, and start chasing tail and the odd bird.
    Glic also reckons that Uncle Vickys’ brain went scrambled a short time after the dinosaurs left the building, but no one told the poor bugger and he is still out there, with Eye of the tiger blazing through one of his old cassette decks which he sticky taped to the zimmer. The sad thing is, he really really believes that hes gonna catch one.
    The other week, now i dont know if this is true or not, but the cockie monster reckons he saw Uncle Vicky parked behind an ice cream truck, and when he asked him what he was up to, poor Uncle Vickers told him “that he was waiting for the lights to change green”.

    Also, can appreciate your take on the cynicism angle. Arteta had become master of slowing the game down, drawing fouls and allowing the game to breath and expand a little. In the first 25 min in patches and again from the 42nd till half time, i felt we were playing some of our best one touch ball this season, but in saying that im also gonna call, that Everton has been the best team at closing and trying to close us down so far. Even the stubborn toe poke was in there a few times breaking up certain 1 on 1′s. Maybe Arteta believed, or simply carried out Wengers orders and said we were to use our speed and take the game to them and that our one touch play would be enough to unlock them. Once the first goal drops, the game usually opens. But in this case both goals came late which in most cases and just like in this game, the timing of any goal will dictate the game play and tactics on field.

    I dunno, i felt that we could hold em out all day, such was the feeling after the first half hour played. so when we finally buried our one (mind, the foul on Giroo in the lead up to the goal is a clear foul and it was rather cynical in my book and the Toffee was even expecting to hear the whistle before he turned and saw bug eyes blast it home, definite goal scoring oppo’ wiped out, last man, cynical challenge professional foul, whatever you want to call it, but i always question why a goal should wipe out all the fouls that should have been called. Fair enough, the goal stands (not like we didnt have to work for it) but for the love of Christ, he should be getting some punishment for intentionally Mc’cheating and gaining advantage outside the rules of the game. In my eyes we got punished for the final 10 min having to play against an extra man that should have not been there. and mentioning granny shagger Rooneys 4-5 elbows over the past few weeks doesnt make football rules anymore transparent….well they are, yet the whole world is watching England refs, referee a completely different sport week in week out. Must be a joke. I seriously thought Rooney would have been up before a judge by now…….. ahhhh thats right, i forgot that the Referees saw all those incidences and deemed them fair and within the rules of the game…….just like that moron ref saw that Balotelli DIDNT slice open Sangas leg from the knee cap down with bare studs showing and put reliable out and a season on the ropes. haha, you gotta laugh or else your gonna cry.
    Very ancy mood im in this morning. hmmm No one likes a draw, and i dont like a draw at home, esp’ with our epic fixture list about to hit the throttle and our momentum copping some turbulence. The bright side says we have a healthy looking squad with long terms on the horizon, and then on my side of the street its saying that a 7 point buffer and a solid win on home soil was very much needed with the lead up to this fixture pile up from hell. We’re almost certain of a few more casualties before Christmas. Knock on wood/ or my head…whatever suits.

  152. 17highburyterrace says:

    Now, that’s my kinda post, Princey–Well done…I’m not quite out the door for my ski as I still have an espresso to process, if you get my drift… Excellent of you to show your guy what “responsibility” is all about… :D

    True true about the dirty old men and their incredible imaginations…I’m looking forward to the gleaming gnashers of Terry the terrible to give us his view of the tooth from the stadium… Poor glic won’t be able to walk straight after the Delofeu boingage…

    Yeah, the Barca loanee did the job and the Chelsea loanee kept us quite busy and the ManCity loanee was the most cynical of the bunch and broke up some of our play pretty well…It all goes to say that somethings a bit off with the loan system, much as our manager suggests. We can’t blame Martinez for taking advantage of the rules as they currently exist…

    That guy deserves endless praise and this iteration of Everton is sooooo much better than the previous ones under the ManU coach (for now)…Funny that his two target poaches (Fellaini and Baines) weren’t missed at all today…

    Amongst the English guys Barkley was the standout and Theo looked good in his cameo. Jack still tries to carry the ball too much for my taste and needs ref bailout or better acceleration. Santi does too plus a target for his long passes (Theo). If we’re gonna try and match them physically we need bigger and faster guys out there Under pressure as we were and resorting to plenty of route 1 play wit seems obvious that we need additional targets besides Giroud–and he needs somebody to head the ball towards (Theo again)… That’s where we really miss Sagna (and need him to sign da ting…) as he’s a legit target despite his small stature and his age. Time to reward him, Per, Rosicky AND the manager for keeping this team together, I say….

    OK, it won’t stay sunny and cold forever… Again great post Princey…Sorry about the cracked tooth ;) ….

  153. Prince says:

    Meant to say that Arteta mastered slowing the game down part over the last two seasons.
    This year in the domestic league, that part of his game has become obsolete, where as the few important days leading up to Spursday, known to us as European proper, and Mikels out there chomping at the heels and up to his old tricks.

    Also i dont believe Arsene trusts in Artetas’ legs as much as he thought he did. (I think)He knows now to use him sparingly, or line him up with a road runner prepared to cover extra ground when called for.

    Hope our Le Coq is growing bigger, stronger, and getting wiser by the day.

  154. Prince says:

    17, before i scroll down the rest of your nespresso infused post, i was wondering, Just how much brandy you mix with your coffees each day? Cant be that cold ;-)

  155. 17highburyterrace says:

    Prince, no Nespresso for me…I pull my shots on a Nuova Simonelli Appia–old school all the way…It’s quite a set-up, you should come for a visit…Additionally, no brandy for me until evening time…In truth, the cafecitos dehydrate me so I’ll be taking a pint of mountain water with a spoonful of Chia seeds stirred in before I head out…It’s bright enough today that I need to apply sunscreen as well…

    I nominate you for the match report as that’s a fine observation about Arteta. IMO we’re going to struggle in matches where the ref swallows the whistle. Athletically we’re just not that strong in MF. Flamini is a macho guy but really not very pacy nor a great leaper, etc. Ozil and Ramsey need to avoid injury and need that little bit of time and space to do their stuff. If the ref is allowing Shawcross style action there will be trouble. Webb, however, is one who is happy to blow the whistle in the middle of the pitch, but we chose not to take advantage. Good spirit (I think) is to be saluted even if it may have hindered us getting the correct result… Is this the reason some cried out for Rooney (or Fellaini) over the summer?… Which bigger team is gonna snatch up Ross Barkley. Will he become the next Jack Rodwell?… I think we’re still a season or two away from Ramsey and Wilshere really controlling matches in MF w/o the ref helping out…

    OK, to the sunscreen…Wife and kid giving me quite a look as they head out for some sledding…

  156. AB says:

    Disappointed, obviously – and I could only follow the game on the radio. But early reflection is that it sounds like a fair result. For whatever reason we did not perform at our best early on. And Everton are a decent team and were well up for it. This is no disaster given other results, though it does feel a missed opportunity to build ourselves some comfort space for the tough games coming. I asked for a minimum of 4 points from these 3 games on GK a few days ago (didn’t draw much comment at the time), and this result means we need to win one of our next 2 to reach that; it will be tough. But if we aim to be true champions, then we should be up for a couple of wins against the top opposition, as well as consistency against the rest.

    I’m not sure what is going on in terms of injury and rotation. Either Walcott is still a bit uncomfortable after his op, or we are counting on his pace as we play the counter-attacking game against Napoli. I am still concerned that we may have both Oz and Ram burned out by the time we face City, but let’s worry about that when we have to.

    For the moment, as after the Manure game, there is no shame in the result today – we could have nicked it at the end, but it was just not to be. And we end the week 5 points clear at the top! I would have taken this position all day and every day if offered 15 weeks ago. The game should serve as a reminder to our squad that we have won nothing yet and can take nothing for granted – but it should not damage their confidence or belief that we can take on any opposing side with real confidence. Bring on Napoli, and let’s hope for rock solid defence and some lightening counter-attacking to keep us on track.

  157. TotalArsenal says:

    Evening guys :)

    Disappointing result and performance as we missed the swagger and ruthlessness required today. Not playing Flamini was wrong in my opinion and Jack and Santi were disappointing. But it was still a good draw in the circumstances as we just cannot win them all.

    17, a MR from you would be great.

  158. 17highburyterrace says:

    OK, I’ll give it a go, the match report that is…

    (Skiing out the door didn’t go so well…sun affected snow glopping onto my skis lead to a sweaty tromp–still beautiful out there, of course…)

  159. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Evening Bergkampesqueres
    Terrys take from the Upper Tier
    Martinez gives me the creeps. Just like his Wigan team, he effectly played a system which nullified us but still allowed his side great attacking potential. If other teams start copying him, we might have to have a rethink. By splitting his centre backs and dropping Jerk Barry inbetween he was basicly playing three at the back, pushing his full backs on to support the wide players and forcing Santi and Jack to defend. He also had Barclay playing in and around Arteta.

    Martinez is a nice guy, but he must be kept an eye on. For your own safety under no circumstances if you see this man on the street are you approach him. If he looks at you, just look away and pretend your mad by loudly singing the wizard of oz. This should distract him and afford enough time to escape.

  160. TotalArsenal says:

    Sounds still great, 17. No snow here but warmish winter day with great dusk skies.

    Thanks for doing the MR in advance. Really appreciated. :)

  161. TotalArsenal says:

    Hahaha Terry :)

    Good observations as well.

  162. 17highburyterrace says:

    ToTL, you’ve got mail…

  163. TotalArsenal says:

    New Post New Post

    17HT has produced a superb Match Report for us, with both depth and detail and plenty for us to discuss. :)

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