Arsenal 2 – 0 West Brom: eight positives to take from today’s game


Today’s performance against West Brom was a significant improvement from what we have seen in recent Arsenal games. Lady Luck helped Arsenal on the way with a harsh first penalty being awarded in our favour, but there can be little doubt that the good guys deserved their win today.

It looked like our core players had benefited from not having played mid-week, as they all appeared to be both fitter and more focussed during our game against the Baggies.

The big negative for me today was our inability to take some of the excellent chances which came our way – other than the two well-taken penalties by the impressive Arteta, of course. We also were not able to get the best use out of Giroud, although the Frenchman himself was partly to blame for this.

But, other than those two ‘areas for improvement’, I thought our encounter with the Baggies offered strong signs of Arsenal making progress, and I would like to highlight eight positives from our game today:

  1. MA8: I thought Arteta had one of his best games this season; at least for the first seventy minutes or so. He tired towards the end and made a few mistakes that could have cost us on another day, but before that he was the solid anchor in our team. His positioning was spot on and he also won many one to one battles; he had great drive and timing, and really imposed himself on the game. Mikel also managed to be more direct against West Brom and his passing was often full of attacking intent.
  2. Jack Wilshere took the game by the scruff of the neck today. Not Cazorla or Rosicky turned out to be the conductor of our team today, but Jack, the beanstalk climbing, giant-killer was the one who led the team on the pitch against West Brom. There is still room for improvement for Jack – his final ball needs to improve a bit further and he missed a very good chance today – but his ability to give our team shape and purpose is incredibly important for us at the moment. Jack was simply fantastic today.
  3. Our wingers were disciplined in keeping their shape and stick to their tasks. Ox played a lot better than he did on Tuesday, and hopefully he can build on his performance against the Baggies to regain his best form. Gervinho might have missed a few chances, but his overall play – especially his running with and without the ball – is so important for our team. His ability to take on defenders and get the ball into the box, simply means Arsenal have an added dimension; we are less predictable. If Gervais could just add a bit of sharpness to his game and gain more upper-body strength, he would be far better able to pick the fruits of all his hard work.
  4. Our full backs were great today. Both Sagna and Gibbs really found the perfect balance between solid defending and supporting our attack against WBA, and I really hope the former signs a new contract and the latter can stay fit for a while. In our 4-3-3 system they are immensely important, and we are lucky to have two very good full backs at Arsenal.
  5. Our centre backs, as well as our back-four as a whole, looked more in control and coordinated than I have seen them in a while. How many times did they manage to get the Baggies in an offsite position today? It all resulted in a well-deserved clean sheet.
  6. As a team we pressed so much better than in recent games, and we were also able to win a lot of the one to one battles today, which is an improvement from recent games. WBA were never allowed to get into the game and this was mainly the result of our improved pressing and ability to dominate midfield.
  7. The whole team did not only have a better shape and gelled a lot better; it also showed real passion and fight. Players stood up for themselves and each other today, and it was a joy to behold.
  8. Despite our injuries, we were able to bring on three strong substitutes who were all able to contribute in us seeing the game through till the end. It is good to know that we will have an almost full squad available for the tough – and oh so crucial for gaining momentum – December and January fixtures.

Next up in the PL are away games against Reading and Wigan. There are no easy games in the PL for Arsenal this season, but with a strong squad, and a good possibility that the above mentioned eight positives can be repeated again in fixtures this month, Arsenal should be able to make further progress in the table. However, it will be key to further integrate Giroud into the team and provide him with quality service; and as team we need to score more in the PL by taking our chances better than we do currently.

Still a work in progress and another set-back cannot be ruled out, but we can take plenty of encouragement from today’s strong team performance.

Total Arsenal.

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147 Responses to Arsenal 2 – 0 West Brom: eight positives to take from today’s game

  1. The Gooner says:

    Nice recap TA, summarized the game together with some of the posters’ comments very well. Stringing together consistent performances will be our biggest challenge, as we’ve been Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde quite often this year. Has anyone else noticed that Ox has slimmed down a lot this year? Last year he really fit the nickname “the bull”, now he just looks like an in-shape footballer. Also, he showed the ability to deliver some nice crosses. For me, having pace and the ability to take on defenders is crucial for our attack going forward. Not having Podolski in the line-up meant more movement down the flanks and better engagement and delivery in the final third.

    Also, Clarke’s comments after the game:

    “There was zero contact – it wasn’t even close. I am not sure what the referee saw,” Clarke said. “It was a bad decision for us and obviously changed the shape of the afternoon. It could have been a nervous afternoon for Arsenal. At 0-0 they hadn’t created too much.

    “We knew the longer the game went the more pressure would come on Arsenal and then we would have a chance. That decision changed it.”

    He was certainly in the right to criticize the penalty call, but to say we hadn’t created much before that is just obnoxious. We had already settled down and were passing around them in their own half prior to that play. In terms of scoring chances, Gervinho had an effort that sliced wide of the post prior to Ridgewell’s injury, we had a header or two off the mark and Jack had a surging run that almost led to another scoring chance. The phantom call certainly had a part in changing the game, but the end result was fair given the balance of play.

  2. Flashman42 says:

    A clear and informative article (and nice to read one concentrating on the actual football going on and strength and weaknesses therein, rather than the copious number of words written in the “arsenal blogger shpere world” regarding the fiscal going ons etc. Cracking analysis of gervinho’s game as a whole (the first blogger in my view to spot his unpredictability (a positive as you describe) and lack of upper body strength – lightwieght, (and trust me I read them all). If the man could actually strike a ball properly and had a better first touch he would be a top top player, but as much as he frustrates me at least he is a player who you can tell cares and works his nuts off (and I know at the end of the day this isn’t good enough, not for us anywhay).

    Really good article, up there with the top boys (if you know what I mean – Arseblog, CLF, LeGrove, Gingers, Untold etc).



  3. jack says:

    you are way too kind

  4. John says:

    I wonder how this assessment would have changed if Carzola didnt dive and Ox was fouled prior to getting a penalty? delusional..

  5. oz gunner says:

    top notch analysis TA, agree with your comments about Gerv. He is frustrating as hell but he’s an x-factor and will always bring a different aspect to our team play. Pass to wilshere: great, fresh air swing from a few metres out…not to much.

    @ John

    I wonder how your assessment would have gone if you weren’t a whinging sook? At least bring something constructive to the party mate

  6. TotalArsenal says:

    Morning guys 🙂

    Oz 🙂 Lets hope Gervinho can keep that x-factor and add a bit of slaying power as well.

  7. TotalArsenal says:

    TG 🙂

    You are right re Ox’s body weight and general fitness. He is improving, and maybe Wenger should keep playing him on the right for a while so he can properly grow into the role.

    Clarke is right to be very annoyed about the pen decision. Did Cazorla ‘dive’ as in purposefully trying to get a penalty, or did he anticipate a swing at him which he tried to avoid? There appeared to be minimum of contact but it could have been worse had Cazorla not moved out of the way so quickly? Need to have another look at it.

  8. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Flashman and thanks for the compliment 🙂

    Nice to see you agree on Gervinho’s plus points and his ‘areas for improvement’. His first touch is sometimes really good, and sometimes really bad, and so is his finishing (his goal against Chelsea was world-class). He is a bit of a maverick, but his added dimension and work rate are important for Arsenal. Ooh if he only had the finishing accuracy of Arshavin: combine the two into Arshvinho and we have our own Messi!!!

    Hope you will comment again on BK soon. Cheers.

  9. VCC says:

    Morning Total n Oz…….how nice does that feel after a well deserved win yesterday. I was beginning to forget how it felt.

    We are far from the finished article but that gives us a base to springboard from.

    I will publish the UMF League after the results today guys, sad that Rocky missed an entry.


  10. VCC says:

    Good morning John. How long have you been a baggies fan? Can you remember Jeff Astle?

  11. VCC says:

    Total, you are spot on with the observation regarding the point that did Cazorla avoid contact so he doesnt get injured, but never the less, it was a dive in my book. That was the only sour note to the affair. We deserved our win, no two ways about it. They never looked dangerous and I thought our defence handled all that was thrown at them.

  12. oz gunner says:

    morning all

    It does feel bloody good VCC, very glad to have that feeling back!

    I think Ox should be given an extended run at RW, stuff Walcott, he’s probably going for a free anyway so lets fast track ox. Walcott…sign da ting!!!!

  13. TotalArsenal says:

    Is that really you, Jack? I am so honoured!

    No, no, you really were brilliant – any player who can play with his chest sticking out like that deserves all the praise he gets. Please sign da ting asap! 🙂

  14. VCC says:

    Oz….your right, we should persevere with the Ox and cold shoulder Theo as it looks certain Wenger has lost patience in him. I’m saddened, because after many moons I’ve come to like Theo. He has limited ball skills but his blistering pace frightens the f… out of defenders. It’s a crying shame he does not “Sign da ting”

    May I ask a Question Oz? … Do you think Wenger will sign anyone in January? and if so, do you think it’s realistic to hope they make an impact in the rest of the season?

  15. TotalArsenal says:

    Feels bloody brilliant Victorious CC! 😛

    I need some draws today or Total will end up with nil points today.

    Thinking about how do we want the Mancs game to go:

    A big city win would be good to see van Judas’ face afterwards. But we want them to lose to safeguard our 49 Invincible record, right? A draw would be of little use, although our enormous gap with both of them would be shorted by a meagre two points….

  16. VCC says:

    I love you too Jack. XXX

  17. TotalArsenal says:

    VCC, it was a very soft penalty to get, but the referee had a very good view of it I thought. Should Cazorla just have taken the kick more full on, in order to get a definite penalty but risking to get injured?! When you say it was a dive, do you mean Cazza cheated or it just should not have been a penalty?

  18. VCC says:

    You do indeed need some points to help your tally in the infamous UMF League, otherwise you will end up looking like that true ugly mother GLiC.

    I’m not too fussed who wins the “Pits” derby. The only reason I will be checking afterwards is to finish the points off for this week.

    Both Mancs will be above us so it’s of no consequence to me.

    Btw Total, did you hear the comment from Sir Alex whinging about how many penalties City gets. That’s one of the most hypercritical statements I’ve heard in my time watching football. Talk about calling the kettle black.

  19. TotalArsenal says:

    I heard that VCC and it made my blood boil too. All mind games of course and I hope MC get at least two penalties today.

  20. VCC says:

    I reluctantly think Cazorla took advantage of the situation rather than playing the game. If that makes sence.

    I’m afraid I cannot be a hypercrit (like the Mancs) it’s a part of football I dispise. I’ve seen ManUre con/take advantage of referees for over thirty years now.

  21. TotalArsenal says:

    Ok VCC, I don’t disagree with you. If he dived than that is not good and Wenger needs to have a word with him.

  22. oz gunner says:

    Feel the same way VCC, this season he’s really got some consistency going and I’m glad he’s gone up a gear. But as i’ve said for a while now I don’t give a sh*t about him until he signs, until then he is as good as dead to me just like the other traitorous slime

    I think he will to be honest, and I hope it’s a couple of signings. I definitely think they can. Look at Arshavin for instance, straight away he came in and not only brought an immediate impact but he also rejuvenated the squad. I just hope it’s a biggish name so the fans and players get really excited about it! Coming in at RW none other than….Mario Goetze! That’s the sort of signing that would make me cry

  23. oz gunner says:

    What are your thoughts VCC?

  24. CB says:

    Cazorla – he isn’t that sort of player…

  25. VCC says:

    You big baby Oz…what’s all this crying business, pull yourself together man, get a grip, this is Bergkampesque, where men are men and Aussies are Sheila’s. 🙂

  26. VCC says:

    Unless its a big name and personality I cannot see it making an impact. That’s why I don’t want Wenger to buy yet another potential. Im not holding my breath cos it’s highly unlikely Wenegr will spend top dollar.

    So Goetze is in the letter you sent to Santa?

  27. oz gunner says:

    Yes indeed VCC, i was with my nephew writing letters to santa last weekend and a couple of players were on mine! He pleaded for lego but just for good measure I asked him to write for signings too.

    Goetze, Baines and more time for Gnabry, Eisfeld, and Miquel

  28. glic says:

    Morning Punangnang`s 😆

    VCC, you have a bit of a creepy obsession with Santa`s Sack going on there !. hahaha

    Nice to watch a win on MOTD, I`m now going to watch the whole game on `player.

    Great summary Total. Hows the little one ?……no VCC, I`m talking about the puppy !. Talking about little one`s……VCC spends so much time on the computer, his missus calls his todger Microsoft !. hahaha

    Laters Muvvers

  29. TotalArsenal says:

    Hahahahahahaha ‘Microsoft the todger’ – we can always tell when your brain was left alone to think things like this up. Your best contributions often come after a night’s sleep, a long drive or working on your son’s love shack. Top stuff, Glicster! 😛

    Henry is doing very well thanks Glic. Some toilet issues of course, but he has been very good in adjusting to his new environment and he brought us luck yesterday. He is too little to put an Arsenal shirt around him, but he lay on one and he looked gorgeous on it (photos to follow his week!).

  30. glic says:

    Cant wait to see the photo`s. Admit it Total, it was love at first sight !. 🙂

    Honestly Total, I have a crap memory, so when I`m driving, you wouldn`t believe the amount of times I stop in a lay-by to write something down that comes into my head head which I think is amusing. I have pages of the crap !. hahaha

  31. I love your Sack Jack.XXX

  32. Red Arse says:

    Morning Fellas, 🙂

    Great post-match, TA, and being rated with other top sites (not sure about LG) is a huge credit to you. Word is spreading!! 😀

  33. Red Arse says:

    Glicster, so you are the sod who I have seen writing War and Peace (part deux) on the M1 while doing 90 mph!! 🙂

  34. VCC says:

    Two headed monster, that’s you GLiC. 🙂

  35. TotalArsenal says:

    Are you any good at drawing or have a friend who is? You could write a comic story called Burgerkampers featuring some of our regulars in it! 😛

  36. TotalArsenal says:

    Cheers Redders 🙂

    I thought you might have been tempted to respond to my extra-dimension claim re Gervinho… 😆

  37. hahaha Didn`t realize I did a double header there !.

    Quite good at painting and will give it a go at drawing my todger out of VCC`s gob ! hahaha , but I`ll leave the insulting stuff for the video`s hahaha

  38. glic says:

    Nearly right Redders, it`s actually the M5 and M6, when I`m driving to Orcland. I`m writing about the ugly arse-bandits, Titled , ” Lords of the Ringpiece “. !.

  39. Red Arse says:


    I think we know each other’s views on the Gerv and I doubt that either of us will change. 🙂

    Winning has an equal and opposite effect on the spirits, to that when we lose, so everyone is in a good mood. As am I.

    I cannot help feeling tho’ that we could as easily have won that game 5:0 as 2:0, but in contrast we might just as easily lose the next game 0:2 and no one would be surprised.

  40. Herb'sArmy says:

    Greetings All,
    big thanks to Mike Jones. Had all the refereeing decisions been called correctly yesterday, we’d have probably lost, but a win is a win, so we’ll take that. And it’s not like we do a MU or MC, and get penalties every other week. For anyone whinging, those of a certain vintage will well remember how Franny Lee turned winning penalties into an art form, and I don’t recall too many pundits criticising him.
    Thanks for your analysis, Total, you are the uber optimist to negate all my doom and gloom mongering.
    Wilshere showed all the attributes yesterday that make great captain’s, a touch of the British bull-dog spirit that we have sorely missed.
    I thought it was quite a flat game, WBA are in a bad run of form, and yesterday looked like a damage-limitation mission from their perspective. We weren’t great, but we didn’t have to be, let’s hope we can use this massive slice of good fortune to finally kick-start our season.
    GliC, the wooden spoon isn’t yours yet mate 😀

  41. TotalArsenal says:

    True Redders, we are not there yet!

  42. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Herb 🙂

    Agreed on all your comments. I picked out the positives in order to build on, but I also emphasised the cardinal sin of not taking our chances and not involving Giroud enough.

  43. TotalArsenal says:

    Invincibles record is safe for another season! 🙂

  44. TotalArsenal says:

    Herb, just imagine we put a beast of DM next to/behind Wilshere and Cazorla and let the English Bull Dog and the Spanish Toro loose in our team….

  45. glic says:

    If only we had a world class striker like One Man Utd !.

  46. The Gooner says:

    who glic, welbeck or chicharito?

  47. The Gooner says:

    Oz, there is 0 chance we get Goetze. I would cry if we did but there’s no chance. He’d cost £30 million and Dortmund have no reason to let him go in January, despite the high buy-out clause. He’d be ineligible to play CL football for any other club too.

    VCC, more realistic targets for the wing are Zaha and Adrian. I’d much prefer Zaha since he’s a natural winger and has the ability to take on defenders that only exceptional talents have. Yes he’s more along the lines of a potential player but he has plenty of experience and confidence to find immediate success in the EPL too. Other players we’re rumoured to be interested in are Klaas-Jan Huntelaar and Lewis Holtby from Schalke, Demba Ba, Yohan Cabaye and Hatem Ben Arfa from Newcastle, Kevin Strootman from PSV Enidhoven, Etienne Capoue, Serge Aurier and Moussa Sissoko all from Toulouse, Mohamed Diame from West Ham, Victor Wanyama from Celtic and a few others from the Championship. I’m not including Fellaini from Everton, Edinson Cavani from Napoli and Mario Gotze from Dortmund because I think they’re all out of our reach.

  48. The Gooner says:

    EVERTON!!! Thank god, get off the pitch Spud scum :). Nice goals from Pienaar and Jelavic!

  49. The Gooner says:

    Also, Luiz Gustavo from Bayern is another intriguing name that we’ve been linked to recently.

  50. VCC says:

    The Gooner…..we have a fun league in progress. Weekly charts and running total. You predict 5 results from the premiership every Saturday. 1 point for correct prediction. Would you like to join in?

    We have been playing since 24/25th November.2012.

    Current overall scores are
    Red Arse…….11
    Rocky…………. 7
    Total………….. 7
    Henry………… 8
    VCC………… 9
    Oz 8
    Herb 6
    TMHT 8
    GLiC 6

    There is two outstanding results to come in so i will publish the standings after these two games.

  51. Herb'sArmy says:

    Hi Gooner, sorry not to get back to you the other day, what you said about Gilberto makes sense, solid, great composure, but not legendary, although someone with his quiet under-stated authority is exactly what we could do with. We use a different formation now, but the Vieira – Petit was almost perfect.
    Completely agree with you about our need for a real winger, we’ve never properly replaced Pires. I don’t think Gervinho is Arsenal quality, and I might be in the minority, but I won’t be sorry to see Walcott go. I know he’s a Spud and a lot of people don’t like him, but I really wish Mr Wenger had bought Bale.

  52. VCC says:

    Total, Herb and VCC have one more game to take into consideration.

    As you can see GLiC is a saddo, he cant get anything right, poor sod. Don’t be too mean on him being unable to get much right, because not only that he is extremely ugly.

  53. The Gooner says:

    VCC, that sounds excellent. Thank you for including me in the UMF league and making me feel a part of this site. Do I get some sort of handicap since I’m starting late (maybe 5 points as oz suggested on another post)? Shouldn’t be too far away from surpassing glic even if I don’t get any points to start off with!

    Fulham win
    Sunderland vs. Reading draw

  54. The Gooner says:

    He’s probably just living in the past! Haha he’s still wondering where Shearer, Adams, Keane, Cantona all are

  55. The Gooner says:

    Hi Herb, I agree that Gervinho is not everyday starter Arsenal quality. I do think he has the ability to be on the squad with spot starts and to keep our starters fresh. He offers something different to our team but he’s just not decisive, direct, strong or clinical enough for my liking. He has flashes of starting ability, but by now I think he’s established himself as a good squad rotation player at best.

    Won’t be sorry to see Walcott go either as you’ll see from my next article after the Zaha one I submitted:). Despite being young, I think Zaha will eventually more than adequately replace Walcott if we can get him. Bale is a dirty cheat who frequently dives (Cazorla’s been a one off so far). However, he’s very talented and has tons of backbone and potential; the exact type of winger we’re currently winger. But a player with his talent is always looking to move to the bigger teams in Barca or Real Mardid; something we’ve become accustomed to but would have caused further aggravation.

  56. Red Arse says:

    He has probably buried them somewhere in Cornwall. Don’t upset him TG or we might suddenly notice you have disappeared.

    Glic waves his magic mirror around and if you catch a glimpse of his image in it you would be a goner Gooner! 😀

  57. The Gooner says:

    Haha Red, glic is one of my favourite commenters, always witty and I’m fascinated with his Arsenal experiences from way back in the day!

  58. VCC says:

    This weeks points. One game to come on Monday. GLiC Fulham v Newcastle..Away win

    TMHT 3
    VCC 3
    RedArse 2
    Oz 2
    Henry 2
    GLiC 2 + ?
    Total 0
    Herb 0
    Rocky 0

  59. Red Arse says:


    Glic is a little different. His creativity and madcap humour is always likely to bring a smile to anyone’s face!! 😆

    When he, VCC and Telescope Terry get going all the normal bloggers just let them get on with it and watch with a grin!

  60. VCC says:

    Overall INC 8-9-/Dec
    Red Arse (clever boy) 11 Yellow Jersey
    VCC 9
    TMHT 8
    Oz 8
    Henry 8
    Total 7
    Rocky 7
    Herb 6 Wooden spoon
    GLiC 6 Wooden spoon

  61. VCC says:

    The Gooner………The normal way to introduce a late starter would be to add the scores then divide by the number of players …..70 devided by 9 = 7.7777777777777.

    But I think its fair to start on 6. This equals the bottom two. If I gave you more than GLiC he would seek me out and come and stare through my window and frighten the F— out of my family. That wouldn’t be nice this side of Christmas. Herb is…… well….Herb is…miserable 😉 , but he will cheer up when Mr.Wenger leaves 🙂 . I like him a little cos he predicted my second team (QPR) to win.

    So in conclusion, if your happy lets say you start with six. You have up till ko next Saturday to submit your entries. 1 point for a correct prediction. Won’t take you long to surge past GLiC anyway, he’s a total nincumpoop.

    We only allow him on here cos he’s got no mates.

    Watch out for that Red Arse………he’s a smart Arse. 11 points, two ahead of the second placed handsome bugger.

    Henry keeps laughing, Oz keeps crying, Rocky keeps missing entires.

    A little tip…TG…….keep your women away from Terry, and don’t use swear words on here or Total will smash you over the head with his clog.


  62. VCC says:

    Wow TG….you sure know your players. I think you should send a CV into Arsene and apply for the scouts job. 🙂

  63. The Gooner says:

    Hahaha vcc, the exchanges between you and glic make my day. Cannot wait for Terry to get on here and see the three of you interact. You paint Glic as though he’s the ghost of Christmas past! I’m happy with the 6 points, can’t ask for anything more. Will my predictions for the next two games count?

  64. The Gooner says:

    VCC, if only I could be a scout for Arsenal, I’d fix ’em up very quickly. Not exactly sure what the scouts he has are watching a lot of the time, or whether the transfer fees play a part a bigger role than we are aware of. If you’re interested in young talent, check out this kid from the AC Milan academy. It’s only his plays from one game, he’s an absolute gem!

  65. The Gooner says:

    play a bigger role*

  66. VCC says:

    I think I should be fair on others here TG and say no. You have plenty of time to move up the table seeing you have extensive knowledge of our wonderful game.

    Your highlight will come when you interact with TMHT. He is the other handsome bugger on here. GLiC, Terry and I met a few weeks ago at the Tavern before the QPR game (1-0 to the ARSENAL, yipeeeee) .

    Terry is my favourite cos he bought me a double brandy, that GLiC geezer didn’t even get me a tissue to wipe my chin after dribbling, I’m sure GLiC has pointed out I’m 62 and have trouble with certain human functions. He knows I’m sensitive but keeps tacking the P— out of me cos i have to use a zimmer frame to get about. Please don’t encourage him.

  67. VCC says:

    Total…thats a good one, have been looking for something like that. The only problem is, I like the ones with two wheels at the front. I can get a right move on with that type

  68. glic says:

    He likes the ones with the wheels on the front, so the daft clunge can do wheelies up the A13 !. hahaha

    I think I had the ghost of christmas past tea-bagging my ghoulies last night, couldn`t have been the missus as she was down stairs at the time !. hahaha

  69. TotalArsenal says:

    wet dreams can be so embarrassing! 😛

  70. TotalArsenal says:

    UMF League widget adjusted

  71. glic says:


    Glicnam Style match report !

  72. VCC says:


  73. Herb'sArmy says:

    I blame Henry hehehe for having no knowledge of the Championship. I’d have been challenging for a CL spot this weekend 😦
    Just living up to my miserable reputation 🙂


    hahahahahahaha, brilliant

  75. VCC says:

    THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY F—ING BRILLIANT. I really have tears in my eyes. The perro cohonas.

  76. VCC says:

    Herb, will you cheer up the morning of the 25th ? 🙂

  77. The Gooner says:

    Fair enough VCC, I think that’s fair. Hopefully I’ll be passing glic and herb soon! Hahaha your story of glic and your first meeting is hilarious, I can’t get enough of you gentlemen! Difficult not to encourage him with the level of comedy the two of you have been producing.

  78. VCC says:

    mind you herb, someone has to keep GLiC company at the bottom of the UMF League

  79. The Gooner says:

    Hahahaha glic, that was amazing! Definitely should have paid closer attention to your warning, my soon to be mother and father in-laws are visiting and were in the room as I opened the link!


    Know what you mean Herbie Baby. The other day i was walking to my car and stepped in the biggest load of dog crap ive ever seen. Straight away i thought, blast you Henry hehehe.

    Then when i got the office i took my shoe off and started scraping it on the kerb muttering “fucking dog crap”, when the hot hairdresser 2 doors down walked past, ruining my future chances.. Blast you Henry hehehe.

    Then, as soon asi hit my seat, a knock on the door from a policeman asking if i had seen a man reported for scraping dog crap on the kerb. I said No, but i had seen the hairderseser women 2 doors down walking in to her shop with one shoe off.

    Blast you Henry hehehe. hahahahahaha

  81. The Gooner says:

    I noticed when “jack” posted here earlier, the lot of you were all hoping to fondle his sack. What’s that about?

  82. The Gooner says:

    Messi ties Mueller’s record of 85 goals in a calendar year if any of you lads are watching!

  83. The Gooner says:

    86, record broken 🙂


    Thats just a strange English custom we do over Christmas TG. We like to buy each other sacks which conceal presents and then fondle and carress them to discover whats inside. Last year VCC fondled his sack and gussed correctly that it was a mobility scooter. Cornwall (GLIC) fondled his one, but was left disappointed when he failed to discover what was inside because it exploded. hahahaha

  85. Herb'sArmy says:

    Hard to say VCC, as I’m not affiliated to any religion and I know Christmas to be a made up festival, stolen from the Pagan winter solstice on December 21st.
    But if it isn’t called off, we host West Ham on Boxing Day, so I’ll look forward to that.

  86. The Gooner says:

    Hahaha priceless Terry!


    Know what you mean Herbie Baby. A few years back i explored the idea of becoming a fundamentalist Mormon. i was intriguied by there ideas of polygamy and free sex, so thought it might be an idea to infiltrate there group to conduct a study of these practices.

    When i got to one of there meetings though, the women looked bloody horrendous. a cross between Bernie Winters and Julie Goodyear. I made my excuses that i had to leave, but a couple of them pinned me down saying that i had to be brain washed and needed to repent, by having sex with Bernie Winters

    I only managed to escape because i conned them all that Bernie Winters was my uncle and that it would be wrong.They were confused by this, so i took advatage of there hestitation to leg it.

  88. VCC says:

    Herb. ..Santa will be delivering several happy pills on the 25th. Wash it down at dinner time with copious amounts of Remy Martin, and I bet you will be running down your street naked singing “There’s only one Arsene Wenger” …”There’s only one Arsene Wenger”

    Don’t forget to warm up by the fire afterwards. 😉

  89. Herb'sArmy says:

    I must admit Terry, you, GliC and VCC do cheer me up, and do a stellar job of keeping morale up amongst the weary troops 🙂


    VCC, hahahaha, its either that or Herbie will be getting a visit from the Scrooge Bergkampesue ghosts.

    TA, showing Herbie all the great Arsenal results of the past, the 30s team,71, 89, 98.02,04 etc.

    Oz, showing the potential of the current team, and some beautiful bikini clad Australian blondes

    Redders, displaying two futures. One were we win the lot and are remembered as the greatest team ever. Or the other were Herbie is stuck in a groundhog Barry Manilow concert. hahaha

  91. The Gooner says:

    VCC, for the UMF league, are there rules on not being allowed to choose winners on certain games?

  92. Herb'sArmy says:

    VCC, if Mr Wenger delivers the CL, I would have to seriously consider whether he should be placed above Herbert Chapman as our greatest ever manager.

  93. The Gooner says:

    Herb as a point of interest, who would you replace Wenger with out of currently available managers?

  94. Herb'sArmy says:

    Please indulge me briefly and muse over this question Terry, VCC, Gooner, and anyone else out there.
    If Arsenal had appointed Bobby Robson/Brian Clough in 1976, and Alex Ferguson in 1986, do you agree that we would now be supporting an elite football club with the same billing as Real Madrid and MU, and a club that is a major world force? Based on the appointment of Terry Neill, is it justified to accuse the Arsenal BoD’s of fundamentally lacking the same footballing ambitions as the supporters?


    We will never know the answer to that Herbie.

    I am a believer in the idea that it is the right man at the right time. For me the greatest manager ever was Brian Clough, so if i had to speculate then if we had got the great man in 76, then yes, we could have won the league and European Cup and become an even bigger club. But as i said, right man at the right time. Clough didnt work out at Leeds and ended up been relegated at Forest.


    just like to add that we have always been a very conservitive club, well in my lifetime anyway. But then i think to myself wasnt the appointment of Arsene Wenger daring and revoloutianry. Before him there was only Joseph Venglos as a foreign manager and he was a disaster.

  97. richie59er says:

    Happy to slide a little for now. 🙂 my way of keeping up morale amoung our troops.
    We have just dropped back down to 7th, but in all honesty can there be any Gooner out there that begrudges Everton their victory? Could our returning to 7th have been for any better reason than to have watched the Spuds finish 0-1 up after 90mins only to lose 2-1 in extra time? Only an Arse win could’ve put a bigger smile on my face. Cold damp sad and miserable in the quagmire, generates smiles all round in the heights of Highbury.


    spot on richie. I always take sadistic delight in the no marks losing. You seen that clip of one bollocked hitler doing a jig after the fall of France?, thats me every time they lose. hahaha

  99. Herb'sArmy says:

    Good question, Gooner.
    I would have no problem installing Mourinho, simply because he wins titles and CL’s, and The Arsenal really should be in that company. But I think he’ll go to one of the Manchester clubs.
    Pep Guardiola had the huge advantage of the world’s best youth academy at Barca, and Lionel Messi, it is unlikely that he would reproduce that at any other club.
    David Moyes has done an immense job at Everton, with even less resources than us, and deserves the chance to manage a big club.
    I believe that Paul Lambert will become a very good manager too.

  100. The Gooner says:

    I can only speak to Ferguson in 1986 since I wasn’t alive in 1976, but I really don’t think Arsenal would be better off than they are now because of the board and those in control. I haven’t researched enough into the board’s influence over player wages, distribution of cash, selling players etc. to accurately dissect the issue though. It all gets more confusing when conflicting reports surface on how much Wenger has to spend or if the player wanted to leave/wanted a higher salary.

    From my perspective, I think SAF wouldn’t have taken as much crap as Wenger has and would have left Arsenal if he were manager. SAF is more no-nonsense and gets all the freedom he asks for. If it comes down to the board forcing Wenger to get rid of star players, then SAF would not have had control over that. We know Wenger is a penny pincher and the perfect puppet for Arsenal’s greedy board and owner, but I’d love to read a book on Wenger’s restrictions and personal struggles with the board (if they exist) after he leaves the club.

    I do believe that there is a fundamental problem within the club. How can Fox come out and say that Arsenal isn’t all about winning? How can Gazidis tell fans we’ll be serious contenders with the top 5 teams in the world in 2014 when we’re not even top 3 in the BPL right now? Winning the right way builds your global brand; we can’t seem to win anything right now and haven’t shown any real progress in the last 7 years, so it’s a terrible time to release a statements like that. There’s no continuity with this club (unless you believe top 4 in BPL is an accomplishment) and I think Arsenal are in serious need of a strategic plan to propel themselves into that upper echelon of great teams. If we’re not careful and continue with what seem like endless excuses, we’ll keep falling further from the top teams in the world.

  101. henrychan says:

    Hi.. guys..
    Morning all..

    Herbs.. sorry for your unpleasant feeling.. hehe..

    And feel sorry also for TA and other who hate RvP a lot.. on his late goal.. haha..

    Damn.. MU is leading and still 15 point ahead.. But at least our record still unbroken.. hehe..

    VCC.. It was so close for 4 points.. hehe..

  102. The Gooner says:

    Agreed Richie, I don’t mind Everton catapulting up in the standings if it means Tottenham losing. Everton deserved to win that game and to be where they are in the league table. In fact, I prefer to be toiling in 5th-7th place come the January transfer window (as long as we’re still winning games) because it becomes crystal clear to Wenger, the board and Kroenke that we must add to current squad. They’d evaluate and say yes we’re winning games and Wenger has gotten more out of his players, but it’s still not translating to the coveted “CL qualification”. To me, that is the perfect scenario and the only way that we’ll hopefully add the top talent that matches our ambition.


    henry, forget all about that man. what are you going to do about blowing my chances with that hairdresser chick??. hahahaha

  104. VCC says:

    Herb…History is a define art…..sod knowing who would be highly successful as Arsenal manager!!!!! I would be a millionaire now, cos I would have won the lottery.

    if i was, I’d be on the board of Arsenal. 🙂

  105. Herb'sArmy says:

    You know Alex Ferguson agreed terms with Arsenal in the summer of 1986 to become the club’s manager, Gooner? The reason it didn’t happen was because Arsenal wanted to call a Press Conference announcing the news, SAF asked them to wait until after Scotland’s WC campaign in Mexico – two weeks – the BoD’s refused and appointed George Graham.

  106. The Gooner says:

    Herb, I value your opinion, but you aren’t comforting me with manager choices like Jose Mourinho, Lambert and Moyes! Jose Mourinho does win, but look at the squads he’s won with. His tactics are getting stale and he produces some effective, yet truly boring football matches. There’s a reason why Madridistas want him gone from the Bernabeu and it’s not just because of Real’s place in the standings this year. The man is a twat who is full of himself and a dick to the players and fans.

    As for Moyes, while I respect him, I don’t think he could carry on the Arsenal’s tradition of playing beautiful football. He gets a lot out of the players he has and operates well on a tight budget, but there are plenty of signs that show he’d be unsuccessful with a larger budget. Just look at some of his big money signings such as Nyarko, Bakayoko, Beattie, Williamson, Simonsen etc. I won’t comment on Lambert as he’s still relatively new and not fully established yet, nor had the opportunity to manage a top team.

    If I were looking at managers (if we’re including unavailable ones), I’d be looking at Jurgen Klopp of Borussia Dortmund first and foremost. Gets his players to play an exciting brand of football, always has quality replacements lined up for his departing players, relies on his scouting network to produce a fantastic academy and also knows how to operate on a tight budget (only allowed to spend what the team makes). Past him, I wouldn’t mind Marco Bielsa, Diego Simeone or Frank De Boer either. Hell, Di Matteo might even be worth a punt, as he should have never been fired from Chelsea.

  107. The Gooner says:

    Herb, I was very, very young at the time but I am aware of that based on articles I’ve read! I just don’t believe that he’d have had more success based on the conservative parameters he’d have to operate in. At this point, I’m not sure if it’s the board asking Wenger to sell our players or his stubbornness that gets them out the door. If it’s the latter, then SAF would have been the right appointment since he rarely ever lets his star players go.

  108. richie59er says:

    I loved Cloughie but the BoD would’ve had to be seriously foresighted to appoint “Old Big Ed” in 76 after all England didn’t. Moreover it could’ve been a total disaster, there was a serious drinking culture at the Arse back then and given that the great man battled alcoholism it might not have been the ideal marriage. Having said that, I would’ve loved it, if he’d arrived back then after the disaster of 76 Cloughie would’ve been a breath of fresh air.

    Herb as for SAF you obviously don’t know or aren’t old enough to remember? He was offered the job of replacing Don Howe by the board in 86 and turned them down. I remember they only turned to GG (another Scot) as second choice. No one else remember? Terry, GN5?

  109. henrychan says:

    I don’t really understand the joke.. sorry bro.. hehe..

    I hate to saw MU win also..
    But keeping the record – unbeatable is something great also.. haha..

  110. The Gooner says:

    Henry, I believe it’s because TA bought a pup and named him Henry after the great titi

  111. VCC says:

    Sorry The Gooner, I don’t understand the question?

    The only rule is 1 point for every correct prediction.


    Dont worry about it Henry. A lot of the time i dont understand myself either. hahaha

  113. richie59er says:

    @ Herb, I’m a day late and a dollar short, I replied to your first question without reading further, but I don’t remember it the way you do. I remember SAF had already finished with the Scotland job when he was first offered the Spuds job which he refused, next up he was offered the Arsenal post, which he again knocked back. At the time I thought it was London he didn’t want to move to.


    One thing i would like to say about the “we will never know the outcome” of possible past manegerial appointments is that at present we have a great manager. Yes things are a bit tough in comparrison to the last few years, but i believe the man will turn it around for us.

    As for the Board, we are reaching a stage soon were increased revenue will ask questions about there strategy and behaviour. Lets wait and see what they do before we pass judgement.

  115. The Gooner says:

    VCC, I’m wondering if we’re allowed to pick predictions on any games or if they’re restricted. For example, could I choose MU to win next week? Surely, it’s an easy point for everyone if you see what I mean. Or are we restricted to predict 5 games from a chosen 7 (or something along those lines)?

  116. The Gooner says:

    Fair enough Terry, but if you look at the bonuses and sums of money they received last year, it kind of makes you wonder if increased revenue will ever be distributed back to transfer funds for Arsenal. If they aren’t going to invest in transfers, at least invest in the physio team/rehab facilities. I mean for christ’s sake, how many times do our players get injured relative to other top teams in the league? How many times do Diaby, Rosicky and Gibbs have to endure similar injuries before they start taking better preventative measures?


    TG. the two main things i will be looking out for is further increases in our wage bill, bringer us closer to our main rivals, and tinkering of our wage structure allowing us to pay top dollor to our main players.

    If we do this, then maybe, just maybe, we can keep hold of our players and if we do that then ime confident we will get right back up there again.

  118. glic says:

    In an effort to try and fix Diaby`s chronic injury problem, they have sent him the USA, a new technique of performing in porn films is guarenteed to fix him. Soon available on the net…….”Diaby does Dallas” !. hahaha

  119. The Gooner says:

    Terry, I agree and think the wage structure is certainly the first thing that needs to be changed. There’s an endless cycle of players leaving because they either want higher wages, silverware or have seen others leave. As one of my future articles will highlight, I’m at a crossroads with Theo. He is by no means a main or irreplaceable player like van Judas but he also represents another established player potentially leaving. Somewhere the cycle has to end…

    A young core of Wilshere, Gibbs, Jenkinson, Szczesny, Oxlade-Chamberlain, along with potentially Coquelin, Frimpong, Miquel, Gnabry, Eisfield, Campbell, Akpom, Aneke, Meade etc. is very promising. There’s also a good group of older players in Vermaelen, Mertesacker, Sagna, Podolski, Giroud, Cazorla which will also need to be retained. The wage bill goes hand in hand with acquiring more quality talent in the transfer market though. Only a few of the players listed are world-class and we could do with 2 or 3 more of those types of talents. Without adding more world-class talent, the wage bill can be as high as possible and we still won’t be able to compete with the top teams. My reasoning is that a world-class player’s wages must be supported by further world-class talents.

  120. The Gooner says:

    Glic, no talk of porn. You might over-excite Terry!

  121. richie59er says:

    Well memory’s are strange creatures because I remember that at the end of the 85-86 season before the WC had even started 1st Rangers offering SAF the job which he refused then the Spuds offered SAF the job and again he turned them down, Next I remember that SAF turned down Arsenal too before he’d even left for Mexico. It was on his return that he was appointed at Man U, most of us at the time thought he must’ve signed for United before he left, and before he was offered the other jobs but he couldn’t declare as Scotland hadn’t as yet failed to progress in the WC. I wouldn’t put it past SAF to be economical with the truth, he does have history you know.

  122. glic says:

    If it works, we should end up with a F**king good footballer !.

    If you have been reading for a while now, you will know that Terry has more pet names than most on here. Stretch and Tellescope are a couple of many, funny enough most are given to him by me and Redders ( Red Arse ) !. hahaha
    Do I need to explain VCC`s other name 1 UMF, it`s also why the league is named after him, I`ll take credit for that one aswell !. hahaha


    Yes, especialy because as we speak ime currently logged into a very nice site. hahahaha

    Night all

  124. glic says:

    Whats that Stretch…….” PigeonStation” ! hahaha

    Night Stretch and night TG

  125. The Gooner says:

    hahaha terry, happy fapping mate! Night

  126. The Gooner says:

    Night Glic

  127. VCC says:

    Terry is already excited. He is like a good boy scout, his telescope is always at the ready.

  128. VCC says:

    Nite nite fellow Gooners. Sleep tight.

  129. Herb'sArmy says:

    Hi Richie,
    SAF became MU manager in November 1986, after they sacked Ron Atkinson. Martin Edwards wanted Terry Venables, it was Bobby Charlton who recommended Ferguson.

  130. Herb'sArmy says:

    Fair enough on Mourinho, Gooner, a lot of people find him unpalatable.
    Good shout on Jurgen Klopp, he has a good footballing philosophy that ties in with ours.
    Should I call you ‘Gooner’ or ‘The Gooner’?

  131. richie59er says:

    I give you this to ponder; several young players have left Arsenal and Arsene Wengers tutelage only to regress, is Na$ri gonna be another?
    The Guardian
    Roberto Mancini’s wobbles continue as his midfield malfunctions and his strikers fail to shine. Manchester City’s stuttering midfield display was embodied by Samir Nasri who is an impostor of the player who starred for Arsenal: it was the Frenchman’s half-turn in the wall and his stuck-out left ankle that provide the crucial deflection for Robin van Persie’s winning free-kick.

  132. The Gooner says:

    Herb, whichever one you prefer or is easier for you.

  133. Herb'sArmy says:

    I have adjusted my expectations accordingly, Henry. My CL aspirations have gone, but on the flip-side I am in contention for the wooden spoon, so it’s all good.
    And Arsenal won, Tottenham lost. A joyous weekend.

  134. Herb'sArmy says:

    Cheers Gooner, I didn’t want to be direspectful, particularly to a fellow member of The Arsenal family.

  135. Aurijit says:

    Morning TA and fellow gunners,

    Apt analysis of the win !! point no. 6 was the most important for me , as this was missing in most of our recent matches. Loved our pressing and maintaining formation while off the ball , midfield pressed the game well to stay in control of the match. Arteta was guilty of errors in the last quarter of the game. On a bad day , this could have cost us very badly. TV5 did well enough to cut his recent criticism while it was a pleasure to see jack where he belongs … Loved his play. Gervinho missed numerous chances to be on the score sheet , but the dimension he adds during our counter is immensely important and which we miss if Podolski is on left wing. One change I was wanting is Podolski on for Giroud as a center forward .

    Have a great day 🙂

  136. VCC says:

    Top of the morning fellow Bergkampesquers.

    Happy, happy Monday.

  137. TotalArsenal says:

    Cheers Aurijit, Pod for Giroud makes sense. Have a great day too. 🙂

  138. TotalArsenal says:

    Morning VCC and other fine Gooners 🙂

  139. TotalArsenal says:

    New Post – New Post!

    What a gem of a new writer we have in The Gooner – his second post in less than a week! Enjoy, fellow Gooners! 🙂

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