Review: Arsenal’s Midfield is not working, and team lacked cohesion & leadership.

It is tough to be a Gooner at times like these. One moment we play heavenly football: Reading and Newcastle United away; only to fall back into mundane, clueless performances the week after.

It was important to win this game tonight, and dropping two points could turn out to be very costly in five months time. We did not deserve the three points against Wigan – a similarly poor performance as today against Southampton – and today we did not deserve more than a point either. In fact, some will argue we were lucky to get a point, given the fact that our goal was a Southampton own goal.

It is hard to put the finger on what our team was missing tonight.

Firstly, I thought our midfield did not play close enough to Southampton’s box most of the game. The problem with 4-3-3 is that our midfield is often stretched vertically rather than playing close together as more of a horizontal unit. Arteta often wants to sit deep, Cazorla needs to support the attackers and Wilshere has to cover the huge space between them: as a result the midfield is often stretched and therefore not cohesive enough. I am not a big fan of this at all.

Usually Wenger gets the midfielders to play closer together and push the oppositions higher up the pitch in the second half of games – after a good team talk at the break, so it seems. But this time, we did not improve as significantly in the second half as we did against Wigan and Newcastle United recently.

As our midfield was not capable of playing closer to our attackers, the latter looked isolated and ineffective. Theo and Pod got very little service, but Ox at least worked hard to create something for the others.

Secondly, and infuriatingly, the team lacked once again the required telepathic relationships; the automatisms of finding each other, and anticipating each other’s moves when passing the ball, were sadly missing today. So many passes went astray tonight with the intended recipient and/or the passer of the ball looking frustrated and misunderstood. At this stage, this should not be happening anymore, and I wonder whether the recent switch from Giroud to Theo up-front has a lot to do with it.

In our 4-3-3 formation, it makes a big difference whether we play Theo or Giroud in the centre of attack, and as a team we seem to be struggling in adjusting to the new ‘main man’. That’s why I reckon we would be better off to change to 4-4-2 now, and play both Giroud and Theo up-front together (and play with a more cohesive midfield behind them).

Thirdly, we lacked leadership tonight. We need somebody to hold this team together and to direct/conduct its style of football, and ensure our focus is never lost throughout the game. I have said it so many times, but TV is not that person. Jack is trying so hard to fill this void, as he has all the potential to become a (future) leader, and he seems to feel that something is not there, but the senior players have to stand up now and show stronger leadership.

Fourthly, some of our key players are struggling with their form at the moment. From one game to another, Pod is either wonderful or invisible; and poor old Sagna is struggling with a huge loss of confidence/form at the moment which might have cost us two points today.

On top of that, we still are not able to cross the ball effectively into the box. Other than Wilshere from set pieces, Arsenal are nowhere near consistent enough with their deliveries into the box, and that really is not good enough. What is the use of playing with wing-backs if they cannot cross the ball into the box properly?

Tonight’s result was disappointing, but I am not totally surprised. We are still a team in transition and more work needs to be done in terms of getting this team to click and be more consistent from one game to the next.

Let’s hope we will see a huge improvement against Swansea this weekend.

Written by: Total Arsenal.

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134 Responses to Review: Arsenal’s Midfield is not working, and team lacked cohesion & leadership.

  1. Mick says:

    I’d love to see us go back to a 442. I’m not sure whether we have the players to do it though. I do think 433 doesn’t work as there is to much pressure on the wingers to defend, then it seems like we are over crowded in the middle. We used to be so dangerous when our opposition had a corner as we would break so fast. It all seems a bit sluggish now

  2. Red Arse says:

    Well done to you, TA, for getting out a Post after that! 🙂

    If we are a team in perpetual transition, I would throw it away and start again.

    Actually, I do not accept that term, myself. Every team is in a state of constant flux, caused by injuries, age, new blood, new manager etc.

    The term a team in transition is a cop out to excuse poor performances and poorer results.

    That is not a refection of your use of the term, because it is used by fans and the media all the time, but I am sorry, it is illogical to me! 🙂

    Again, you have my admiration for writing a very good Post at a very disappointing time!

  3. afc says:

    I agree with switching to a 4-4-2 formation, this will mean we will have santi, jack or mikel on the bench which will mean that we will actually have a decent substitute midfielder as Ramsey is just not good enough and Diaby is always injured, but this will mean we will be stretched on the RM/ LM positions with only Gervinho, Rosicky and santi if he is not playing in the middle to fill in.

  4. VCC says:

    I’m with Mick here. I would like to see us go back to 4-4-2. I do think we have the personnel with Giroud and Theo up top.

    So disappointed with that display tonight. Looked like they had too much Christmas pud in their bellies. Far too lethargic approach.

    Wenger should have kicked them up the arse at half time and made them up the tempo. We played far too deep as well. Looked like we were setting them up for the counter attack but they were not buying it.

    Oh well, just have to beat Swansea this week end.

  5. Fred says:

    I hate to say this at it gives praise to a chavski player, but what would you guys thing on going for lampard given his current contract situation? We could get him fairly cheaply and he would be a true leader in out midfield, jack’s energy is great but I think we need a bit of a cool head, then use our 4-5-1 formation with arteta and lampard as holding mids. Could work but not too sure lampard would a) leave chelsea for us and b) if it would work. My proposed line up if this were to happen would be:

    Sagna…………..Mertasacker……………Vermaelen…………….Gibbs
    …………………………………Arteta……………….Lampard…………………..
    Cazorla…………………………………………………………………Wilshere
    …………………………………………..Walcott…………………………………….
    …………………………………………..Podolski/Giroud………………………..

    I feel that this line up could work because it would allow for Cazorla/Wilshere and Walcott (and even podolski) to interchange positions and would make for a more surprising attack with Walcott playing just off the main striker. Although it doesn’t give us Vermaelen in defensive mid as I would like its another option I’ve just thought up and could work. Also it would bring us in a natural leader in Lampard who has EPL experience and could pass on some of his knowledge to the younger players like Jack. Also do you think Walcott would accept playing just off the main striker?

  6. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Mick, all agreed 🙂

    Hi RA 🙂

    You have every right to be disappointed and I am just as disappointed as you. As you know, poor performances can have more than one cause and that is what I tried to explain in the post.

    Also, if you sell key players over the course of 12 months then a team will be in transition, especially because Wenger wants all his players to play the Wengerball stuff, which takes time. Yes, other teams have to put with a lot of transition as well, and that’s why Chelsea and Liverpool are also underachieving at the moment. Of course, we should not be in this position continuously, but that is a different matter all together. 😦

  7. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi afc,

    There is Ox as well for the wings, and at times we can play Podolski behind Giroud and put Theo on the wing.

    Hi VCC, yep, a good performance against Swansea is what we should expect now. Good to read you had a nice NY’s eve! 🙂

  8. P says:

    We need a strong combative midfielder. If Wenger can’t see that and doesn’t go and get one then maybe it’s time for him to pass over the reins.
    Once Caxorla was nullified, which is relatively easily done on account of his small size, it’s like playing with ten men and Wilshire and Arteta dont have the energy or strength to cope with that.

  9. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Fred, not a bad call but I reckon Chelsea will not let him go anyway. I am sure Theo would have no issues with playing behind Giroud, but I guess in practice they interchange with each other a lot anyway.

  10. VCC says:

    We had a whale of a time, cheers Total. How about you?

    How depressing was that tonight. I was so looking forward to,it as well.

    IMO we played far too deep. still at least we did not lose.

  11. ryan says:

    Thank God for some sense! We have been saying this for three seasons, get some leadership in this squad.

  12. VCC says:

    Off for some shut eye….Latterz.

  13. TotalArsenal says:

    P 🙂

    Yes, we need a beast of a DM, so Jack can start to play closer to Santi and together they can play higher up the pitch. It ain’t working at the moment.

    VCC 🙂

    We stayed with friends and had a great time too, thanks.

    Yes, we played too deep (AGAIN!), and I really feel it is to do with our formation and the sort of players we have for the key midfield positions at the moment.

  14. TotalArsenal says:

    Night Vickers! Thanks for the update on the UMF – Herb has made good progress this week!

  15. Fred says:

    True, I just feel (especially after todays game) that we need a commanding presence in the center of the field. I doubt Chelsea will let Lampard go in this transfer window but nothing ventured nothing gained as they say. He would fit the bill for our midfield in my opinion. Then with the likes of the Ox being able to come into the frame we could have a potent attack in which the players could all change positions (like they do with barca) and it could confuse and tire the defence with one minute having walcott running at you and the next having cazorla or wilshere working their magic and then having to deal with the strength of Giroud. The other players that could fill that role as I admit Lampard probably isn’t all that likely to come to arsenal are Diame, Molumbu, Wanyama, Strootman or Fellini (but I have a feeling he would cost too much) although he would be the best fit as he is good at both attacking and defending and he could push forward in that formation and have wilshere drop back and Walcott fall onto the wings and cut in. Could work I’m just thinking out loud. But something needs to change to make us more consistant in Midfield.

  16. Milo says:

    The only drawback to 4-4-2 would be that Jack Wilshere would either be shunted out to the wings, or he’d be on the bench!!! Either one is not good. He’s the only one who tries to get our short passing game and high tempo back, when we are failing to do what we need to do. He made a lot of mistakes against Southampton but in most of the matches, he has been very good to great. That being said, I think it’s time for a change, and 4-4-2 might help turn the tide a bit. If we do go to 4-4-2 I think it should look something like this…Gibbs, Vermaelen, Mertesacker, Jenkinson in defense, Podolski on the left wing, Jack Wilshere as left centre mid, Diaby, or a new signing as right centre mid, and Santi Cazorla as right wing. Then I’d use Giroud and Walcott as the two strikers. I think Ramsey deserves a mention here though, as his best position is undoubtedly central midfield of a 4-4-2. Obviously he wouldn’t start, but I think it would improve and help him immensely!!! I would instruct the wide midfield players to cut in and support the strikers like Pires and Ljungberg did back in the good old days!!! I think it could work, but it would require a lot of practicing before being implemented in matches.

  17. TotalArsenal says:

    Yes Fred, a commanding, physical pressence who also fits into the Arsenal way of playing football is just what we need. A fully fit Diaby could be the answer, but this is not likely to happen on a consistent basis. Strootman and Fellini are good options, and I am a big fan of Dembele as well (but I would play him deeper than the Spuds or Fulham do/did).

  18. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Milo 🙂

    100% agree with your comment, including the bit about Ramsey. Jack should play in the middle and I would get a traditional, beast of a DM to play next to him. We have quite a few players who can play in 4-4-2 on the wings, ala Pires and Freddie, and it could really work for us. You are right about the need to practice though.

  19. Fred says:

    True, a fit diaby would answer a lot of our problems, but like you said its unlikely to happen. I thought we should have gone for Dembele before they got him… The only thing I fear at the moment is that we won’t make the top four at this rate as the team is as inconssistant as Diaby’s fitness reports. Another option could be Fernando at Porto, he seems to be a tough tackling defensive midfielder, fairly fast and a good passer of the ball. I haven’t seen too much of him though but what I’ve seen he has been fairly good, and the Porto fans seem to love him – so there must be a reason for it. I hope to see more of him in the Champions League as he could answer our problems this season – although I’ve heard that he also has injury problems not to sure. Will keep you guys posted on any other good defensive midfielders I see.

  20. TotalArsenal says:

    Fred, always good to hear about players who might fi the bil in any position. We have a few guys on BK who like to look for talent abroad. See also The Gooner’s post from a while ago:

    https://bergkampesque.com/2012/12/14/arsenal-miss-the-invincibles-but-lets-meet-the-possibles-january-targets-examined/

  21. Fred says:

    Here’s a link to a youtube video of Fernando Reges from Porto – do you guys think he could do the job? (I know its difficult to base it on youtube videos but he could be one to look out for)

  22. max says:

    How ironic, the best way to play us now is to keep the ball, the second best is the old intimidation tactics. A midfield without a ball winner. This manager does not learn, what does he see during a game. No tactical adjustments during games, he does’nt do it so Bould just sits on his hands, those images speak loudly. Now he wants to bring in Lopez, another smallish spaniard who wants to be everybody’s friend. The team lacks aggression and pace my grandmother could tell him, would he listen. I’m losing the will to live here, that’s how frustration it is now.

  23. TotalArsenal says:

    Fred, Fernando is a tough cookie – I liked the video very much. Just great to see a player putting in proper tackles and winning the ball. Agreed though on the limited use of these sort of videos to decide whether a player would be worthy to join us or not.

  24. Fred says:

    Porto are playing Malaga next month in the champions League hopefully it will be on the TV over here it would give us a chance to see both Isco and Fernando against each other to see how good they really are on the nights although we are playing on the same day – Think I’d prefer to watch us take on Munich, but if thats not on then I guess Malaga vs Porto will have to be good enough.

  25. glic says:

    It was a great 4 match winning run. It`s unfortunate that the teams above us are also on great little runs, but they dont look like ending theirs, they all have easier looking up coming fixtures on paper and in their runs have looked strong and not fluked any games. Trouble is, It also means every game needs to be a win, a draw is not good enough as the gap gets wider .
    I`ve said this before, I dont know what Manure are on, but I wish we had some of it. All I can think of is that they have more fight and are scared to lose as they know SAF wont tolerate slackers. I wonder if Wenger has the same effect on our players, I somehow doubt it, he doesn`t come across as someone who will throw a hairdryer !.
    All the talent in the world is nothing without the combined hard graft. Stamina and Top fitness costs nothing, just hard work. Less talented are doing us on workrate !. What do they average a game 10km ?, big deal, I was doing 10km in 35mins when I was 35 years old !.
    A season out of the CL may be a blessing in disguise, each year we are getting more and more complacent and a year of Arse kicking from top to bottom maybe needed. We are lucky enough to financially take the hit.
    We may need to get the super quality in now, as next year they might not want to come !.

  26. TotalArsenal says:

    Fred, Arsenal – BM must be on somewhere! 🙂

    In a way, i am dreading a whole month of transfer window stuff. Good if we don’t sell any of the key players and buy somebody who can add to the team, but I despise all the constant gossip and rumour stuff.

    Where are you based Fred?

  27. TotalArsenal says:

    Glic, did you watch the game?

  28. Fred says:

    Around the corner from the stadium, Arsenal are my local team, although unfortunately I can’t afford the tickets – except in pre-season but I go when I can.

  29. TotalArsenal says:

    Do you go for a walk around the stadium regularly?

  30. TotalArsenal says:

    Night all, catch up with you in the morning 🙂

  31. Fred says:

    Occasionally I did the other day (but I forgot Newcastle was the late kick-off… so got a little caught up) it depends if I go near it, the stadiums in the next borough along from me so if I’m going near it I come back that way.

  32. glic says:

    No Total, I dont have the facility, but from what I`ve read, yours included, we weren`t that great and like you I wasn`t surpised.
    To tell the truth, a 4 game winning run could well have been a 4 draw or 4 loss run and I wouldn`t be surprised !. Such is the unreliability we have become that I have no idea how we can fix it and become consistant again, apart from buying Messi and Ronaldo and the rest having marathon runner fitness !. hahaha
    It`s getting to the stage again where we have to hope the other teams drop points to help us out again, but imo they all look strong and are playing with confidence.
    I know it sounds stupid, us winning 4 and drawing 1 of our last 5 games, but it hasn`t made a dent in the teams above !.
    I`ve got worse as I`ve got older, I dont remember getting this stressed as a teenager over football and I went to more games then !. No wonder Stretch has Pigeon holed himself ! . hahaha

    Night all. It may seem better in the morning after I`ve buried the MiL !. hahaha

  33. Phil says:

    Arshavin would be much better than Gervinho. He can unlock a defence and can cross the ball.

  34. richie59er says:

    I’ve been supporting this team for a few years shy of 50 and it’s not getting any easier, it’s like we’ve got a built in mechanism to implode just when things are looking up. Two steps forward one step back, the Arsenal tango. I know in reality its 4 steps forward and one to the side but today’s sideways step was of Greg Rutherford dimensions, especially as those above us didn’t stumble. Poor doesn’t even come close, I only remember us having one shot (a tame one) on target the whole game. It looked like our boys had been out on the razzle all night long, while the saints were tucked up in bed by 08:30.

    Lacklustre doesn’t come close either, clueless might more on the money, what I find so frustrating is my own inability to explain what the problem is? Yes we played too deep, and yes we moved the ball too slow, we know we didn’t create chances and our passing was appalling, but why? I mean we had the same team and formation in the last 3 games. It’s weird, tiring and exasperating all this inconsistency and it often seems to come back to the team collectively failing to turn up. Underestimation? Overconfidence? I wish I knew!

    Fred @ 23:28 I remember watching Fernando Reges play for Porto in the CL against Manu’er I was impressed with his tenacious performance, he’s a combative little shit and I understand why the Porto fans love him, he’s got a bit of Jack about him, all hustle and bustle, he kept nicking the ball off SAF’s boys and they kept falling over after he’d nicked it hoping for a foul. What’s not to like?

    Which team will turn up next game? That’s the concern!

  35. jeff says:

    why TR7 didnt come on when cazorla was taken off was beyond me!! we clearly lack creativity and we desperately need to win.. but instead of rosicky,wenger brought ramsey on???!!! couldn’t believe it! gervinho n ramsey were just hopeless if not useless subs.

  36. Milo says:

    It’s all good giving our opinions, but even though I am a fan of Wenger, I really don’t see him switching back to a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 formation. He’s too damn stubborn and inflexible. If he did though, I’d be over the moon. He’s stated on more than one occasion though that 4-4-2 is a formation of the past. I don’t think it is, but that’s what he said. Any formation that contains 10 outfield players can work in my eyes if the club has the correct people for the correct roles. It’s soooooooooo strange that we have more players who SEEM suited to 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1, yet we don’t play the damn formation!!! It’s frustrating!!! Very frustrating. I know 4-4-2 would leave us a bit swamped in midfield against some clubs who play 4-2-3-1, or some variant of that, but if we instructed the wingers to tuck in a bit it would be more like a 4-1-3-2 formation defensively, leaving us with 4 midfielders who can flood the central areas. All he has to do is look at how the invincibles played with that formation. It’s like he’s trying to revolutionize something that doesn’t need to be drastically altered. We have the talent, we need the direction. I’m more than happy seeing him recruit for us. Wenger is not perfect in that regard, but he’s pretty damn close. As a tactician, he has a lot more faults. I hope I am proven wrong, but right now I’m pretty frustrated.

  37. Gooner4eva49 says:

    Well done total.

    How about sticking to the formation bring in that beast and have jack and arteta ahead of the beast with santi on the left up top with giroud/pod/ba in the middle with theo on the right. A more viable option as I believe wenger will stick to the formation if he does so change we will most likely see it next season.

    As much as I believe and want theo playing upfront and replicating Henry to some point, I believe for the team, he is best suited on the right. And there is nothing ever stopping him interchanging to the middle position during games. Well that’s my 2 pence

  38. TotalArsenal says:

    Glic at 00.34, we are half way now and there is no need to hope other teams start dropping points above and beyond the normal, YET. If we win our game in hand we will get very close to the top four, and let’s take it from there. Our problems are systemic at the moment, and we will get better once Arsene has decided again how he wants to play, which means sorting out the Theo conundrum and the balance in midfield. It was a poor performance, but I am not going to get all doom and gloom after getting 13 points form 15, regardless of what the others have done.

    Bad day in the office, let’s clip the Swans this weekend! 🙂

  39. TotalArsenal says:

    Richie at 2.30

    I don’t think underestimation or overcofidence has much to do with it. Theo in the middle is a very different concept from GirouD 😛 in the middle, and as a team we failed to push Southampton higher up the pitch; the area where we can properly hurt them. As per my comments above, in my view, the problems are systemic and Wenger can and will sort this out again.

  40. TotalArsenal says:

    jeff, agreed all the subs did not work out (including Giroud). I would also like to see more of Rosicky now, but maybe he will be sold this month… 😕

  41. TotalArsenal says:

    Milo 🙂

    All good points. The theory that with 4-2-1-3 we are stronger in midfield compared to 4-4-2, I just don’t buy, especially if we don’t have a destroyer as one of the ‘2’. For me the ‘2’ deeper midfielders often sit too deep and a huge gap excist between the back four and two midfielders and the rest of the team.

    With 4-4-2, there simply are four midfielders and not two or (max) three. Key is though that all four midfielders can defend and work as a solid unit, as well as create chances. The wing-mids need to be good crossers of the ball and can play good wing play with the full backs.

    I don’t mind our current formation either, but it does not work at the moment and Arsene needs to make changes. Integrating Theo in our attacking play is a challenge and so is the balance in our midfield three. How can we get them to push up further up the pitch constantly?

  42. TotalArsenal says:

    Gooner4,

    All agreed! 🙂

  43. Red Arse says:

    Hi, TA, 🙂

    Perhaps I need to clarify my comment regarding a team in ‘transition’.

    There is no disagreement in as much as transition does occur, for every team, and it is a continuous process throughout the league.

    Chelsea, Man City and Manure and all the other clubs are also in transition with new players, injuries and in Chelsea’s case, management changes, but the three mentioned are all in the top three.

    Therefore I do not hold with the view that transition is the cause of Arsenal’s plight, it is just a normal part of football!

    More serious concerns lie with our players, or some of them at least.
    Sagna is a slow and seemingly disinterested shadow of his former prowess and Gervinho is a laughing stock with many fans and pundits, and Theo continues to flatter to deceive.
    All of that needs to be seen in the context of a team that seems, at the moment, to have zero leadership and poor tactical knowledge.

    Why? I simply do not know! 😦

    Arsene needs to carry the can for this, at least in part!

  44. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi RA 🙂

    It does not often happen that I mostly disagree with you, but today is the day. 🙂

    Chelsea are indeed in transition and they are also a long way of winning the title, and eliminated from the CL already. Man City have had no transitional issues this season, and MU have not sold 5 key players of their squad in the last 16 months. Of course, every team has to implement a number of changes at some point, but Arsenal are going through a major transition once again.

    To illustrate my point: if we had kept van Judas and Song and added Podolski and Cazorla this season, do you really believe we would not be in the top-2 right now?

    I did not see a disinterested Sagna yesterday at all last night. I saw a hard working player who lacked confidence, and I feel truly sorry for him. Gervinho; you know my thoughts about him and I know yours 😛

    Agreed re Arsene being responsible for a big part, and that’s why I don’t worry too much, yet.

  45. Red Arse says:

    TA,

    You are entitled to your opinion and me to mine.

    I was trying to engage on an item in your Post which is a truism and being used as an excuse for another poor performance. It can, at best, be only an opinion, but you seem to be treating it as fact.

    It is pointless to continue the discussion, so I won’t.

  46. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Redders,

    There is plenty of content for you to respond to, but fair enough, let’s agree to disagree.

    Have a nice day amigo. 🙂

  47. glic says:

    Afternoon Bonerang`s 😆

    Hi Total 🙂

    Indeed, we are just over the half way mark and “if” we win our game in hand we will be only 2 points behind the Spuds, but we have hard games before our game in hand and expect us to be even further behind !. 😦
    I am one of the believers in the not too distant future being a great one for us and that I have low expectations for the short current period ( 2 years imo ), but as a gooner, it still hurts when we draw let alone lose !.
    On paper it doesn`t look too bad, but that is just covering up cracks. We will not get CL this year if we carry on being a Jekyll and Hyde side. I dont personally think a year out of CL will do us too much harm and imo might do us good, I still want it though, but have been bracing myself for a soft landing for a few years now. Mr Magic keeps pulling the bunny out of the hat, but , being a world bunny shortage ,I think he has used his last one up !.
    We have had some high scoring entertainment value this season, but the inconsistant performances are at a EPL all time high and apart from spying on ManU and seeing if they train different and have special systems and tactics I`m at a loss for what to do !.
    Like most, I want some top quality brought in, I just hope that we know what to do with them if they arrive !. Lets face it , although not of Invincible quality, we still have some quality players, so whats wrong ?.
    I do agree with a lot of what Redders is saying in regards to ” transition being ongoing “, it must be, otherwise Jeff Blockley would still be playing under Bertie Mee at Woolwich !. hahaha
    I haven`t a clue what to make of it all……tell a lie….you know I`m one for hard work and top fitness, so when I see players just jogging back casually It makes my blood boil, especially when the opposing teams seem to bust a gut to get back !, absolute scandalous imo !. 👿
    Right, off for a treadmill run to prove it can be done ! hahaha

  48. VCC says:

    afternoon GLiCtorious…….its all mystifying. no one seems to be able to put their finger on the problem.

    one minute we are playing fluid, sharp, decisive football, and the next we look extremely average and lethargic.

    I think Total needs to get his monster mid fielder……and quick.

  49. TotalArsenal says:

    Afternoon all 🙂

    You might remember we did a prediction post back in October on where Arsenal would be at the end of 2012. See also:

    https://bergkampesque.com/2012/10/09/arsenal-top-of-the-league-on-new-years-eve-leave-your-predictions-here/

    Here are the results:

    Joined third are: RL, VCC, RA and Total with a meagre 2 points out of 30.
    Second is: HenryC with 5 points.
    And the winner is: Glicxster: with 10 points.

    Answers to the questions are:
    1. 5th
    2. Theo
    3. D
    4. B
    5. MU –> MC –> Chelsea –> Spuds.

  50. glic says:

    As long as he can play a bit aswell Vic`s. As AW is saying you need to be more than just a beast nowadays !.
    I know it was just a you tube vid, but the one Fred put up earlier of Fernando Reges looked good. I do like a sliding tackle !. hahaha

    I know we cant change the past, but I still havent`t been able to get over the selling of RVP to our biggest rivals. I dont go with the suggestion that he wouldn`t have given it his all for us if he had been made to stay.
    Clungechester will walk the league and probably would have been in the top 3 even if they had not bought RVP as they are nothing but consistant, lets face it they only lost it last year in the dying seconds, they have a formula for consistancy and their so called transition periods are always seamless !.
    I would however bet my MiL`s life that we would be above the Spuds now had we kept him !.
    I know most are hurt by what RVP did to us ( especially Total ! hahaha ), but I`m more pissed off with whoever`s decision it was to rubber stamp it, whether it was the board or AW. Imo ( but with no actuall proof ) it would have been down to AW and to me a Giroud sized cock up and lets face it thats big !. hahaha
    If it wasn`t for all what AW has done for us in the past and what I think he will achieve in the future, I would have sacked him for that almighty blunder, but the man deserves more than anyone the chance to try and turn it around.

  51. The handsome bastard cheated……..they were my answers !. hahaha

  52. Herb'sArmy says:

    Hi Everyone. Total, such is your reluctance to tackle where the real problems lay I reckon if you saw an unprovoked dog biting a child, you would unashamedly blame the child.
    You start your Post by saying we played ‘heavenly football’ against Reading and Newcastle. Really??? You mean a Reading side completely exposed as out of their depth, looked at us in awe, and were like frightened rabbits caught in headlights? Newcastle who had played just three days prior at OT, after we had enjoyed a luxurious week-long break, and who went toe-to-toe with us until they literally ran out of gas? We were extremely fortunate to get two penalty decisions against West Brom, and if Roberto Martinez had half the resources Mr Wenger had at his disposal, Wigan would have seen us off too. Four consecutive wins, only one of which was truly merited, against a side who are only ‘visiting’ the PL for a year.
    Including ‘AA’, Total, how long have you been blogging? I only ask because during that time, despite your constant shouts for positivity, and your unshakable belief that better times are just around the corner, we have declined as a club, and continue to do so.

  53. TotalArsenal says:

    Not biting Herb.

  54. I would have expected just 2 points from the, only way is with a zimmer frame Essex boy !, but Redders, Rocky and Cloggers, the 3 most highly respected esteemed bloggers in Arsenaldom !.
    Shame on you and I cant take anything you say serious anymore !. hahaha

  55. glic says:

    And by the look of Herb`s comment, it`s your fault Arsenal are in decline ! and your just trying to win us over with your cute little puppy avatar !. hahaha

  56. Herb'sArmy says:

    And that’s part of your problem, Total. Let’s not debate real issues, eh? That’s why Redders is posting on ‘AA’, because you refuse to see or deal with the real issues at Arsenal.

  57. glic says:

    Hi Herb 🙂

    I would love read a post on here by yourself about Arsenal`s current plight and what you think can be done or which direction we need to move in. I should imagine it will be a great read and could provoke some interesting comments !. I think everyone on here would gladly welcome it !.

  58. Herb'sArmy says:

    Hi GliC, no, it’s not Total’s fault – unless it’s he that is trousering £7.5m a year to oversee this mess. But to ignore it as though it doesn’t exist when the evidence is right there in front of us is just a huge cop-out.

  59. TotalArsenal says:

    Herb, read above ‘about Bergkampesque’. If you don’t like it, blog somewhere else. If you continue to insult me personally about the level/validity of my support for Arsenal, as you did recently, or the validity of my argumentation/ openness to others, I will ban you from the site.

  60. Herb'sArmy says:

    A change at Boardroom level, GliC, with someone who actually loves football, and connects with the huge fan-base. Someone who holds the manager accountable for rank bad transfer-dealings and performances on the park. That would be a good place to start.
    Twice within minutes of coming on yesterday, Gervinho fell over his own feet.
    Is that the level Arsenal have been reduced to? You enjoy, because it’s not for me.

  61. Herb'sArmy says:

    Do what you like, Total, I’m not challenging your support, just your logic and your refusal to tackle the subject of Arsenal’s decline.

  62. TotalArsenal says:

    Herb, I am not refusing to tackle it at all. My post contains four areas of what is going wrong at the moment. Just because I do not agree with your point of view i.e. everything is rotten at the club, does not mean I am not focussing on the problems. I just see them differently from you.

    I prefer to focus on the football itself, as in where things need to improve. I believe in this team and the squad in general, I believe in Wenger and the general direction of the club. I respect that you don’t, but I never question openly your level of support for the club, or whether you are a proper supporter or not. I expect the same of you, otherwise it is getting personal and I will not put up with it.

  63. Red Arse says:

    Steady, guys.

    Feelings are running a little high because of this persistent tease the Arsenal team are doing.

    Good goals amid dodgy defending in enthralling games against Reading and Newcastle, followed by zilch goals and dodgy defending at Southampton does not make any of us happy.

    Hi Herb, I would second Master Glic’s request for you to do a Post on the current state of play at Arsenal. You write very well indeed, and perhaps you could set out your views about what is wrong, at the moment, and your suggested remedies.

    Like the Glic Monster, I would love to read something along those lines. 🙂

    Incidentally, I have continued blogging on AA as well as BK, because I have friends on there too.

    However, you are very astute, and noticed that I was a bit grumpy earlier on.
    I admit that dodgy logic, even from my favourite clog, TA, can make me metaphorically shake my head, I never get grumpy with my friends (including you 🙂 ) for too long. 😀

  64. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi RA, thanks for your comment – very much appreciated. 🙂

  65. Red Arse says:

    Can I suggest a very American solution here guys – just take a ‘time out’.

    I have often said that what is written can be seriously misunderstood, and I suspect that is what is happening here.

    TA, I do not think anyone can ever question your support for Arsenal, and your commitment is clear from the great Posts you consistently write.

    I read thru the comments again, and I do not think Herb did question you in that respect, and actually said so @ 16:31.

    Herb, and TA, we all have blinkers on about certain subjects (including me – perhaps especially me — and the women Terry has in his cellars) 🙂

    Different views – different ways of expressing ourselves guys!! 🙂

  66. Herb'sArmy says:

    And by the way, Total, allowing people on here to refer to me as a ‘cancer’ is bad form, and much worse than anything I have ever written. Did I get an apology for that? Of course not.
    Classy.

  67. richie59er says:

    @Herb15:48 – TA might not want to pick up the stone you threw but I certainly will. I thought like me you were an old Gooner? If you’d been a young supporter (like TG) I wouldn’t bother to pick you up, but if as I believe you’ve been a Gooner like me since before the ark then, I just can’t let you get away with crap you’ve just posted. 7 titles and 16 times a top 4 finish, it’s the best most successful period by a considerable margin. No other Arsenal manager has managed that feat. We certainly are not in decline as a club, the last 16 years have been the most successful in the history of our great club, check the records. Those facts might not suit your agenda but they are the facts nonetheless!

  68. TotalArsenal says:

    Thanks RA 🙂

    The comments re my support have been made in previous posts, most recently just after Christmas. I also did not like Herb’s opening sentence at 15.48: ‘Total, such is your reluctance to tackle where the real problems lay I reckon if you saw an unprovoked dog biting a child, you would unashamedly blame the child.’

    However symbolic this was meant to be, it is a comment made in bad taste, and a totally wrong judgement of my character.

    I can take a lot of illogical stuff, bad argumentation, or people just totally disagreeing with me, etc etc, but I will not let things get personal.

    You are making a lot of sense, RA, and I appreciate that you are trying to help. I often rate Herb’s contributions on the footballing front, and if he is willing to keep from making personal references then I have no problems with Herb continuing to comment here.

  69. VCC says:

    HERB, you really should write an article on your views and remedies (if possible). I’m sure it would be a best seller. indeed, it would be very welcome on my part.

    let’s all go along this rocky path in harmony, we are all ardent Arsenal fans and have some strong views, otherwise we wouldn’t spend so much time blogging.

    I too have strong views regarding our left back situation. I posted somewhere else yesterday and received a sarcastic reply, but hey ho I took time out and refused to comment.

    its a position that I have coached my Son for approx. 15 years. So I have a little interest perhaps more than most as I watch this position very closely. Gibbs is without doubt a fine player going forward, but he has cost us on more than one occasion. Its only my opinion that he is an incompetent full back with some weird characteristics.

    Don’t forget……V…..C…..C, in harmony guys. 🙂

  70. TotalArsenal says:

    Herb, agreed PPP should not have used such a strong word as ‘cancer’, and I hope he will apologise to you. I reckon I am guilty here because I agreed a bit on the sentiment but not the word, and I should have said something about it at the time. Please accept my apologies. 🙂

  71. Red Arse says:

    I would like to lodge a serious complaint, please!!!!

    TA posted the following;

    “You might remember we did a prediction post back in October on where Arsenal would be at the end of 2012.
    See also:
    https://bergkampesque.com/2012/10/09/arsenal-top-of-the-league-on-new-years-eve-leave-your-predictions-here/

    Here are the results:

    Joined third are: RL, VCC, RA and Total with a meagre 2 points out of 30.

    Second is: HenryC with 5 points.

    And the winner is: Glicxster: with 10 points.”

    I think it is an absolute disgrace that I only came joint third!!

    I purposely copied Rocky, VCC and Total because, I had no idea what the questions were, but I thought those clever clogs would have sorted it!!!

    How was I to know our nutty resident Hole Digger, aka Glic, would know the answer!!
    It is a disgrace — if I had known, I could have copied him!!!!! 😛

  72. Herb'sArmy says:

    Hi Richie, 3 Titles, and four FA Cups. Sixteen years of top four finishes when you factor in our wage-bill is par. MU haven’t been out of the top three since 1991, so that dwarfs anything we’ve done. If SAF had won half the amount, he’d still have won more than Mr Wenger.
    Chapman died halfway through retaining the title, and his side remains the only Arsenal team to win back-to-back titles, (winning three in a row). Chapman’s successful side/tactics were only curtailed by WWII, the only thing that prevents the current Arsenal achieving success is what’s happening at Boardroom level. Unless you’re saying that Gervinho is in the same class as Pires/Ljungberg, Cazorla for Bergkamp, or Walcott/Giroud for Henry. Is that what you’re saying?

  73. Red Arse says:

    Come on guys, shake hands and we can move on, please!

    TA has the final word, and if we are not careful he will ask Terry the Terrible and Glic the Quiz Master to come around and sing to us all!! 😀 Yikes!!

  74. richie59er says:

    @Herb again I’ve challenged you many times but thus far you’ve failed to respond to my request for you to put your source in front of everyone. You keep repeating the same thing, but you’ve never backed it up with the facts. The rumour from the doomer is that Wenger is paid more than SAF, I’ve seen enough evidence on the Swiss Ramble blog to satisfy me that the rumour is false, that’s why I’d like to compare it to your source. Otherwise why would anyone want to respond to a false rumour?

  75. Red Arse says:

    Look, I have been horrible to AA and told them a joke.

    As you lot won’t stop, I am going to repeat it here, and there may be more.
    You have been warned!!!!! 🙂 🙂

    An elderly Italian man who lived on the outskirts of Rimini, Italy, went to the local church for confession. When the priest slid open the panel in the confessional, the man said:
    “Father, during World War II, a beautiful woman from our neighborhood maquis knocked urgently on my door and asked me to hide her from the Nazis. So I hid her in my attic.”

    The priest replied: “That was a wonderful thing you did, and you have no need to confess that.”

    “There is more to tell, Father”, said the man. “She started to repay me with sexual favors. This happened several times a week, and sometimes twice on Sundays.”

    The priest said, “That was a long time ago and by doing what you did, you placed the two of you in great danger, but two people under those circumstances can easily succumb to the weakness of the flesh. However, if you are truly sorry for your actions, you are indeed forgiven.”

    “Thank you, Father. That’s a great load off my mind. But, I do have one more question.”

    “And what is that?” asked the priest.

    “Should I tell her the war is over?”

    Stop bickering or I shall unleash jokedom on you!! 😀

  76. glic says:

    Hahaha Redders, I have to laugh as it is so close to home. My MiL sends me morse code messages once a week from the under ground bunker asking me if Kennedy has sorted out the Cuban Missile Crisis yet !.

    _. _ _ _ _… .. _ _._. ….

  77. Herb'sArmy says:

    I don’t have a source to substantiate my claim, Richie, but I have read enough Arsenal material/blogs that tend to support it.
    So you too think my support of Arsenal is ‘cancerous’, Total?
    Thanks GliC, Redders and VCC, but there are far cleverer, better, more erudite writers who could articulate it far more successfully than me. Besides, you already know my views.

  78. glic says:

    …. ._ …. ._ …. ._

  79. richie59er says:

    @Herb again you love to compare apples with oranges; unfortunately your arguments doesn’t hold water. If HC hadn’t died is the same as saying if my uncle was my aunt. Chapman was a visionary and he won 3 titles back to back, a great manager 70 years ago. Arsene Wenger IMHO is also a visionary and he’s also won 3 titles not back to back, but one was undefeated therefore a great manager now.

    You are just intent on muddying the waters SAF has always been able to pay more in wages than us, and he has always been able to buy players for more than we could afford. The league table doesn’t lie Herb! Those who spend the most win it. Blackburn proved that beyond a doubt, because when Jack Walker bank rolled them they spent more than SAF and captured the title. Then came the Russian and he spent more than SAF on wages and transfers, guess what the Chav’s won it. Last came Money Citeh and spent more than everyone surprise surprise they nicked it.

    In all that time only one club has managed to win the league without outspending everyone else. Us! We are the only club in the history of the prem who’ve bucked the trend. Wonder why? AW anyone?

  80. VCC says:

    Richie…….Whilst I still thank Wenger for what he has done for my beloved Arsenal, the love of my life. Do you not think he may be getting a little stale and tired though?

  81. Herb'sArmy says:

    How long ago now, Richie? To hear you talk, anybody would think we’re third-world without a pot to pee in. We are a huge club with vast wealth. Self-sustainability isn’t a necessity, it is practiced at Arsenal at the whim of Stan Kroenke whose only interest in Arsenal is to make money, not to make a significant financial contribution. Selling RvP to our main rivals, and a club we finished 19pts behind last season was probably the equivalent of Kroenke selling the Glazer’s some Real Estate.
    He doesn’t talk to or with the supporters, has no connection with them, spiritual or otherwise, no shared dream or vision, He just doesn’t get it. Do you think that’s a good recipe for football success?

  82. TotalArsenal says:

    Herb, as I said I don’t approve of that word.

  83. richie59er says:

    @Herb I’ve been a Gooner long enough to remember when the board had no interaction with the supporters whatsoever. Way before Danny Fiszman the first chairman at Arsenal to really engage with the fans. Would I rather that we at The Arsenal had the same sort of arrangement that most of the German clubs have? Is the Pope a Catholic? I’d love for our local supporters to own 51% of the club as Borussia Dortmund’s do, it would be a dream, but it ain’t gonna happen, and unlike you I’d rather Kroenke stability than the Glazers recklessness. Neither do I wish for a sugar daddy.

    As for RvP neither Arsene nor the board were given a choice worth having, Van Judas would only agree personal terms with Manu’er. We could’ve kept him and gambled that he would’ve continued to play well for us? And not sulked over him not getting his own way? And hopped he’d stayed injury free for the year at the end of which we’d have got nothing. Or we give VJ his requested move and cop for £24Mil, buy a couple of strikers and hope they bed in quickly. We were caught between a rock and a hard place of VJ’s engineering which is why so many of us have a bad taste in our mouths at the mention of his name.

  84. richie59er says:

    I hate wordpress with a vengeance! Some how one whole post just disappeared?
    Worst I can’t be bothered to retype it! Aagghh blog rage strikes again!

  85. TotalArsenal says:

    VCC, hope QPR hold out!

  86. VCC says:

    GREAT result for QPR…..Lets all follow Rangers YIPEEEEEEEEEEEE

  87. TotalArsenal says:

    Just what we needed!

  88. VCC says:

    Total, can you check your emails please.

  89. TotalArsenal says:

    Have responded now, VCC 🙂

  90. VCC says:

    Weekly 1&2 Jan UMF League

    Herb…… ………7
    VCC ……………..5
    RedArse… 4
    Alex …………….4
    Total ……..3
    OZ …………….3
    Henry ……..3
    PPP …………….3
    GLiC ……..2
    Rocky ……..2
    The Gooner…. 2
    TMHT ……..2

    Weekly Yellow shirt well and truly being worn by Herb with a fine 7 points. Top stuff Herb.

  91. VCC says:

    Running total inc 1/2 Jan UMF League

    Red Arse ………….28
    VCC ………………..26
    Herb ………………..24
    OZ ………………..24
    Henry ………………22
    Rocky……………..22
    The Gooner……..21
    TMHT ………..20
    PPP ……………….17
    Total ……….17
    Alex ………………15
    GLiC ……….13

    Overall Yellow shirt still belongs to Red Arse
    Wooden spoon still belongs to GLiC.

    Herb is doing a Lester Piggott coming up on the rails there.

    As it is FA Cup week this coming week end there will be a break until the next Premiership fixtures. Give you all a nice break

    Once again many thanks for taking part.

    Its my game and I wanna win 😉 🙂

  92. Gooner4eva49 says:

    Hi RA
    It does not often happen that I mostly disagree with you, but today is the day.
    Chelsea are indeed in transition and they are also a long way of winning the title, and eliminated from the CL already. Man City have had no transitional issues this season, and MU have not sold 5 key players of their squad in the last 16 months. Of course, every team has to implement a number of changes at some point, but Arsenal are going through a major transition once again.

    To illustrate my point: if we had kept van Judas and Song and added Podolski and Cazorla this season, do you really believe we would not be in the top-2 right now?

    I did not see a disinterested Sagna yesterday at all last night. I saw a hard working player who lacked confidence, and I feel truly sorry for him. Gervinho; you know my thoughts about him and I know yours
    Agreed re Arsene being responsible for a big part, and that’s why I don’t worry too much, yet.

    Agree with all this

  93. oz gunner says:

    great post TA, a lot of respect for anyone who decided to write a post after a game that shocking.

    For me it all comes down to work rate. We are being out worked by our opposition constantly which is very disappointing given the world class training facilities we have at our disposal! Tactics as well are shambolic, no variation to speak of.

    I say stuff the money making plans for pre-season get a full 3 weeks away together, build the spirit, build the comradery, and lets start out working our opposition again. We can’t rest on skill alone because at the moment our players aren’t showing much of that either!

    under 20’s England squad did it

    My football team does it in Utah. 3 weeks of running in altitude. hard work, climbing in snow, training in indoor facilities, away from the outside world. Works wonders. They are renowned for being one of the fittest teams, and are well known for being the closest bunch of blokes.

    Make it happen Arsene!!!

  94. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Nice post TA

    I dont see to much wrong. Two of our most talented players are in footballing terms just babys. Look at the strides Theo has mad the think of others like van perie and song. Its all about keeping the squad together and then adding to it when you have control of your external circumstances. For too long now external forces have controlled us rather than we having control of our destiny.

    The best result we have had this season is when all those british players commited there futures to the club. Arsene wenger is a great manager who i trust to build a great team but only if he is relativly unfettered. Our salvation will be determined by the clubs ability to grow off the pitch which this in turn will mean we will grow on it.

    Thanks for the birthday wishes everyone. I went to the lovely city of Bath were i visited the Roman baths. I jumped into the water claiming that ” i have to be cleansed”.but unfortunitly had to beat up a japenese tourist who for some strange reason followed me in.. It was obvious to me that his aim was to man handle me but the police saw it differently.

    The Mrs got the hump and left so i had to hitchike all the way back to London. Some lovely man picked me up on the M4 in BMW convertable. i started playing wig on wig off with him and telling him all about the contents of my cellar. For some reason this made him panicky and he tried to kick me out of the car whilst doing 70 miles per hour. i have the car parked outside my house right now, with the lovely man in the boot. Think i might take it for a spin down some country lane tommorow, realy looking forward to it.

    Night all.

  95. VCC says:

    Nite nite Terry…….my Daughter spent three years in Bath at university. We went there as much as we possibly could. I loved the place. Looked into the price of houses too. Far too expensive for us, shame.

    I used to love walking from her digs into town along the canal. Appy dayz.

    Hope you enjoyed your stay.

  96. glic says:

    Spot on Oz.
    I have been banging on about workrate for years. It doesn`t cost anything but hard work and the amount of money these players are on the least they could do is work for it with some effort. With the sports science, equipment and diets of nowadays how hard can it be !.

    Right, night all, this gooner has worked hard exercising today. I may be 56, but I`ve got the body of a 30 year old ………and their not having it back until the ransom has been met !. hahaha

  97. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Apart from Bounds Green most beautiful place in England VCC. the Mrs also done her degree there, thats why she was so pleased when i jumped in the Roman water. All the buildings are listed, even the police station has a nice design, i was realy impressed

    Ime going back for my court case and have heard the court is realy lovely. Grade 1 listed apparantly, so ime realy excited about it.

  98. glic says:

    Ahhh Bath, my favourite City. I thought Stretch was off with bird flu, serves him right, french kissing Pigeons he took under his wing !.
    Vicky, did you walk from Bath upto Bathampton and have drink in the George ( right on the canal ) and then have a drink at Bathampton Mill and get the boat back into Bath ?. Nice round trip.

    Right, really off to bed now. Sleep tight muvvers !. 🙂

  99. glic says:

    We always stay in the Travel Lodge with a room over loking the lake and locks. We park the car up and dont use it until we leave, bike, boat and walking. F**k using the train, BR ( is that what it`s still called ? ) has put the price of train fares up above inflation for the tenth year in a row !. Gives a new meaning to, ” The Great Train Robbery ! “.

  100. oz gunner says:

    oi glic, get to bed!!!

    Exactly right with all that at their disposal only thing left is heart and motivation.

    Your optimism is always infectious Terry, i love it. Remind me when I’m on my death bed to hire you as my life coach.

  101. TotalArsenal says:

    Thanks for the fine comments this evening guys. 🙂

    Hope to issue a post tomorrow around 10am.

    Keep rocking in a free world, and sleep well.

  102. henrychan says:

    Morning all.. How are you brothers ..?? No sister here..??
    All New day in a new year.. hehehehe..

    @VCC : I think it harder to predict a draw than an away win.. isn’t it..??
    So A draw must be point 3 insteed of away win.. hehehe..

    Any news about transfer windows..??
    Did Lopez transfer done..??
    How about Luke Shaw and M’villa..???

  103. VCC says:

    Henry……that was the scoring that people wanted. You get one point for home win, two points for away win and three points for a draw.

    That RedArse is going to take some beating. I’m trying my best. 😉

  104. VCC says:

    Henry, it’s only speculation at the moment, but there’s strong rumours going around that we are after MBwia. 🙂

  105. oz gunner says:

    morning all.

    I’ll be all smiles if that comes to fruition VCC. He was great playing against us in the CL. A DM/CB sounds good to me…song who???

  106. VCC says:

    Hi OZ. Hows life treating you at the moment?

    Are you back at college yet?

  107. henrychan says:

    VCC.. It’s oke bro.. just sharing that harder to predict draw.. hahahaha..

    Wacthing last game again Soton.. then we surely need top winger.. hehehe..
    Lopez will be great.. if only for less than 14 mil.. why not..?? better than Zaha I think..
    Luke Shaw for 5 mil.. Is he that cheap..?? Ox also 17 when brought from Soton isn’t he..??

    I prefer M’vila than Mbiwa..
    And Mbiwa is not for sale.. Montpeiler is strugling for their position.. and they need him..
    And he is not a DM.. he is a CB..
    We don’t need CB.. We had TV, Kos, Mert and Djorou.. Not to mention the younggun..

  108. TotalArsenal says:

    Morning fine fellow Gooners 🙂

  109. oz gunner says:

    morning VCC. good as always. How about yourself?
    Never left uni unfortunately, in my course there is no break

    @ Henry

    fear not, he played in the DM position against us over two legs and did it very well. It is his position now. M’Vila is yesterday’s news and there must be something bigger if no teams are going near him.

  110. henrychan says:

    Oz.. you’re maybe right..
    But Montpeiler need Mbiwa more than Rennes need Mvila..
    and as you say no clubs is going after him now.. because of his bad attitude..
    but Wenger can handle those thing.. hehehe..

    Rumours tight for Mvila, Lopez and Shaw..
    I think they will be great.. for their position that we need most..
    Even I still wonder for Holtby.. hehehe..

  111. henrychan says:

    Cheers guy.. Walcott already sign the contract..
    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/walcott-signs-a-new-long-term-contract
    We’re in a right track..

  112. richie59er says:

    @Oz G 22:41 You and I are singing from the same hymn sheet, when Dick van Judas was found to be a defector the immediate necessity was to bed in Girou(d) and Pod. At that point I couldn’t understand how the commercial side of the Arsenal business was allowed to take precedence. The need to flit around the Far East on a shirt selling drive should not have been given the priority, surely if Arsene had disappeared with his charges into the black forest of Austria (his favourite training camp) then the team wouldn’t have started with Gervinho as its spear head. Gervais Lombe Yao Kouassi might be a winger (debatable) but a CF he certainly ain’t! That Gervinho was (at one time) our top scorer was a scandal (Sorry TA) and to me at least made no sense. It’s no coincidence that since Arsene hasn’t been allowed to head for the hills (the Austrian training camp) we haven’t had a good start in the league, in fact (correct me if I’m wrong) we haven’t had a good start since 07.

  113. henrychan says:

    hehehe.. sorry guy.. misguided..

  114. richie59er says:

    Yes HenryChan well spotted! Theo’s locked in for a further 5 years along with all the other young Brits.

  115. glic says:

    Morning Smegadon`s 😆

    Blimey he he henry, your quick on the ball, you`ve put that info` on BK quicker than it got on Newsnow !. 🙂

  116. glic says:

    I`ve invented a new award winning device to give us the edge. you know them electric wood sanders, well my idea is to have them attached to football boots, a sort of treadmill incorperated into the boot !. I cant believe how many award wining ideas I keep coming up with !. Handsome bastard with brains !. hahaha

  117. richie59er says:

    It’s being said that Arsenal have cooled their interest in Zaha since Theo “signed the damn ting” I hope thats wrong because I think with Theo in the middle another youngster who plays right would be ideal. What a bunch of young kids we’d have! Mind you Alan Hansen says you can’t win anything with kids SAF 😀 🙂 😀

  118. VCC says:

    Oz. Your correct, I’ve seen MBwia (spelling) play mid field. IMO he is much better than MVila.

  119. henrychan says:

    Richie.. Lopez is better than Zaha..
    And Zaha is – damn – 20 mil bro.. Lopez only 14mil.. hehehe..

  120. glic says:

    richie
    That naughty so and so he he henry has given us the old contract signing !. hahaha
    He hasn`t signed “da ting ” yet !

  121. VCC says:

    GLiC. 10:22….thats so uncanny about your invention…I have patented a device for wheels on an aeroplane, with similar ideas to your own.

    Just before the plane lands, the device switches on and the wheels are already rotating on landing, this saves tread and friction.

    GLiC, this time next year I wwwhhiilll be a mwillionaire. 🙂

  122. VCC says:

    GLiC 10:34…Yes he has, have a look at the Arsenal web site. hehehe

  123. glic says:

    Vic`s
    Are you talking about he he`s archive link or the today`s current web site ?.
    he he`s pulling your plonker !. 🙂

  124. glic says:

    I dont like this talk of Lopez. I demand Isco !…….unless Lopez changes his name to Lope or Opez !. hahaha

  125. VCC says:

    GLiC…It’s a bit early for April fool. 😉

  126. VCC says:

    what about Pezo. Now thats a lot of money.

  127. glic says:

    I shall test my new anti-friction boots on henry, no more he he he, more ouch ouch ouch !.

  128. henrychan says:

    Come on guys.. I had already said sorry.. hehehehe..

  129. glic says:

    Because I like you he he, I`m going to skip by our resident psycho homicidal maniac, Jack the Zimmer and pass you over to Stretch…our psycho sex maniac !. hahaha

  130. TotalArsenal says:

    New Post – New Post 🙂

  131. richie59er says:

    @Henry he he Zaha won’t go for £20 mil he’ll be closer to £10mil
    @Glic Isco is home grown boy born in Benalmadena Malaga, he could walk from his family home to Malaga stadium. Forget him leaving the Costa Del Sol for freezing London in Jan, Santi’s been all around but isco won’t leave Spain, never mind Malaga. You’ll have to get your jolly’s elsewhere I’m affraid.

  132. glic says:

    There`s only one thing to do then richie, we relocate to …….Malaga !……….Andele ! andele! arriba ! arriba !

  133. TotalArsenal says:

    Yes, let’s all relocate to Andalusia 🙂

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