Same back-five, Gervinho or Podolski on LW, Cazorla or Rosicky in ‘hole’? WBA pre-view.


Santi has scored four in his last five games for Arsenal – Let’s hope he will continue his fine form tomorrow! 🙂

A week without Arsenal playing football can feel very long around this time of the year. It is a real shame we are out of all cup competitions and only have the league to supply us with the much needed footie-drugs. However, the waiting is over as we will be playing the Baggies at the beautifully named The Hawthorns tomorrow afternoon.

There can be only respect for Steve Clarke. With Villa fighting for survival at the bottom of the league and Birmingham playing a division lower, WBA are punching well above their weight at the moment. The Baggies BoD obviously know how to select and attract high calibre managers, and although Clarke is not a big name as such, he clearly is doing a fantastic job at the moment. Of course, this is only Clark’s first season, and as his counterpart at Villa will know, a manager can go from rising star to having to endure a season-long dogfight from one season to the next.

West Brom are in a not too dissimilar position as Swansea at the moment. They are save and know they have done relatively very well this season. It is now all about finishing as high as possible in the table, but that is not necessarily the best driver for starting a game really motivated. Arsenal on the other hand, are fighting for every point till the end of the season, and a win tomorrow will put us, at least for 24 hours, above Chelsea in a Champions League spot.

That is the sort of incentive that should get the boys really up for tomorrow’s encounter, and I expect us to be hungry and focussed from the start. Despite Theo and Jack’s continued absence, and Diaby being out for the rest of the season, Arsene still has a strong squad to choose from. He will even have to disappoint a number of players who have had plenty of first team football already  this season.

arsenal v west brom april 13


I reckon Arsene will start the same back-five as he did against Reading last week. I am pretty sure the central triangle of GK and CB’s will remain unchanged: Fabianski – BFG – Koz. Arsene has the luxury of having four quality and fit FB’s to pick from; I reckon he’ll go with experience and pick Sagna and Monreal, but he could surprise us once again, with going for either Jenkinson or Gibbs, or both, in tomorrow’s line-up.


I am going for Arteta and Ramsey in the double pivot, and I reckon they will be given instructions to play once again conservatively: stay close together and in line, and focus hard on keeping it tidy in front of the defence. For Arteta this comes naturally, but Ramsey will once more have to play really disciplined. In front of the Spanish-Welsh pivot, I am expecting Rosicky to direct our play tomorrow. Rosicky’s experience and ability to give our team focus and shape will be much needed against the Baggies.


I would love Podolski to start up-front, but I reckon Arsene will stick to what he has preferred most of the season, and play Giroud in the CF position instead. I would also like to see Gervinho start with either Cazorla or Podolski on the other wing, but I feel that Arsene will want to start with both Pod and Cazorla on the wings, which means Gervinho, and also the Ox, will miss out tomorrow.

Arsenal won five out of their last six PL games and let’s hope we’ll make it six out of seven tomorrow. However, WBA have lost only four out of their fifteen home games until now, so it won’t be easy. There is no time for complacency: only a fully committed and focussed performance against The Baggies will give us a good chance to come back with all three points. Anything less and it could all turn sour again.

Come on You Rip Roaring Gunners – Do us proud!

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379 Responses to Same back-five, Gervinho or Podolski on LW, Cazorla or Rosicky in ‘hole’? WBA pre-view.

  1. Milo says:

    Good selection, but Cazorla hasn’t played on the right all season. I doubt Arsene would play him there now.

  2. TotalArsenal says:

    He has played on the right before, Milo.

  3. Michael says:

    Wenger has form when it comes to picking the same team, especially after a victory. So Gervinho’s a shoe in for tomorrow’s game.

  4. Milo says:

    Well I’ll put it this way, I don’t remember him ever starting on the right wing for us…which match did he??? 😀

  5. TotalArsenal says:

    Milo, I admit I thought it was more than just once for Arsenal. But he does seem to play regularly on the right for Spain.

  6. TotalArsenal says:

    Anyway, the point is Cazorla can play anywhere and performs best in a free role and that is what I had in mind. 🙂

  7. Bond James says:

    i like your team selection, TH

    however, i would stick with the same team with the only exception being Wenger’s tactics, yep, subs – we need to bring on both Poldi and Oxo soon as the clock hits 60 minutes and not wait till the last 20, regardless of the score line at half time.

    Milo. Santi has a free role in the team , dare i say he has the same freedom given to him by wenger as the one enjoyed by bale at the spuds….santi can interchange with ros hence either left, center or right is no problem at all.

    it’s a shame podolski hasn’t started for arsenal in a while but why fix something that’s not broke ?
    gervinho , hasn’t done much wrong in the last few games and needs to be given a run (he deserves it and his confidence might take a hit , if he doesn’t start).

    the way i see it, the only way we can start podolski is up front by benching Giroud ( i am in favour of this and we can always bring on giroud as a sub with the ox in the 2nd half)

    i am even going to say that playing Giroud as a sub has more impact for arsenal ( re- reading, new castle e.t.c e.t.c)…nearly scored vs munich as well when he was brought on as a sub (first leg).

    in any event, we have healthy competition for places for the starting 11 , which will get even better in the next coming weeks (hopefully if we don’t have any injuries tomorrow or in coming weeks) the only way is 2nd or 3rd in the table!

  8. Highbury Harmony says:

    Nice match preview TA. Much respect to Steve Clarke and WBA myself, as they are consistently a team that punches above their weight and perform admirably well with less.

    It will definitely be a tough matchup and we must remember that we only beat them last time out because of two penalties (1 was a definite dive too). WBA are generally well drilled defensively and we’ll like see Ridgewell-Olsson-McAuley-Jones, with Yacob-Mulumbu in front of them forming a defensive fortress. On the counter, Long is incredibly fast and Lukaku is strong and a dangerous threat too. Should be a good, tight game.

    I’m not sure if Poldi is 100% yet, but if he is game fit, I agree that there’s no way AW can leave him out of the line-up AGAIN. If he is fit, I see Rosicky going to the bench, Cazorla in the hole and Gervinho and Poldi on the wings. Aside from that, I do not envision any other line-up changes, aside from maybe Gibbs for Monreal on the left.

  9. TotalArsenal says:

    Michael, in that case, Podolski or Rosicky will have to be left out. I am pretty sure Pod will start and maybe Cazorla will play in the hole with Gervinho starting on the right. Could easily happen tomorrow, and I would welcome it.

  10. Highbury Harmony says:

    BJ, completely agreed re: Giroud, I’ve been calling for him to be our super, impact sub all year! AW’s a stubborn sod though and we’ll likely once again see Giroud up top and Poldi on the left or on the bench…

  11. TotalArsenal says:

    All agreed BJ, I just feel Arsene is going to stick to the players who scored most of our goals this season, which means including Cazorla, Pod and Giroud. I would love to see Gervinho start tomorrow again though.

  12. TotalArsenal says:

    Cheers HH, from the training pictures on it looks like the Pod is enjoying himself very much; and I reckon he will play tomorrow. You, and others, could well be right about sacrificing Rosicky in order to include the Gerv.

  13. AFC says:

    Good preview, TA.

    I see Gervinho starting for two reasons. Gervinho is in form and Wenger does not want Gervinho to lose his form by benching him. Also I think Podolski is being left out because of the transfer speculation like Walcott was left out of the first team when his transfer saga was going on.

    Rosicky played RW last match so I think he will start again in the same position with Santi in the hole.

  14. Bond James says:

    sorry i meant TA not TH obviously, so pardon the typo*

    back to business, yep, HH – you don’t have to be an expert to see that but who out there is able to convince a stubborn french to bench another french ? do you see the connection ? ha

    i see no problems with the Poldi/Giroud up front role and substitutions, hell they could even start together in some games, allowing us a 4-4- 1 -1 ( giroud heading it down for poldi and setting him on a run)……

    TA, for the first time this season i am not feeling very optimistic about tomorrow, WBA will most def park the bus and do a blackburn/bradford – wenger has to be more creative and decisive – as long as we get 3 points, i really don’t care who plays and delivers, tomorrow is the biggest day of our season (make or break)….we win and i am 95% certain we’ll finish third.

    also, with both the spuds and chelski having tricky fixture, tomorrow is a day when the table changes in our favour if we win!

  15. Highbury Harmony says:

    TA, that is great to hear about Pod. I’m concerned that he’s unhappy and the rumours circling his departure are only exacerbated by the fact that he’s not receiving playing time 😦 . However, wasn’t van Judas still smiling in his training sessions before he departed the club?

  16. Gerry says:

    This will be a different game to Reading, but I think he will want to keep the pace up front.

    For that reason I think he will keep Gerv in, but may be have the Ox on the left and move Santi to the middle.
    At the moment there is little alternative to the Ramsey/Arteta axis, unless Coquelin gets a start.
    With Sagna getting a bruising late on, and Nacho kneeing the post, like you say, both could stay or go, but if Pod starts then I would say Gibbs will too, but I am guessing that could be the attacking, double sub move, by leaving Nacho on?

    If he goes for minimum changes, then expect this;
    Sagna – Mert – Kos – Nacho
    Arteta – Ramsey
    Gerv – Giro – Ox

    Subs at 65mins – Pod for Ox, Gibbs for Ramsey
    Sub at 75 mins – Eisfeld for Santi(because we are 0-3 up by then …)

  17. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi AFC,

    Which transfer speculation re the Pod? I reckon he has not started recently because he was not fully fit. The guy is on a long contract with us and I am sure is going nowhere.

  18. TotalArsenal says:

    BJ, agreed about WB being set up very defensively and that is why I reckon Rosicky will play in the hole, as he can find space and through-balls better than most in our team.

  19. TotalArsenal says:

    HH, I cannot see him leave this summer. He just signed for us. I reckon he simply was not fully fit recently. But then, I am a glass half full kind a guy! 😛

  20. AFC says:

    TA, they reckon Juventus and another club (not sure of the name) want Podolski.

  21. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Gerry, I cannot see him including the Ox tomorrow (but I know that is what you would really like! 😀 ). Also feel Santi in the hole would not be the best option tomorrow.

  22. Dave says:

    sagna mertasacker koscielny monreal

    Arteta Ramsey

    Carzola Rosicsky Gervinho


    pray arsene try Podolski der….then Giroud in da 2nd half….

  23. TotalArsenal says:

    AFC, weirder things have happened but I cannot see Arsene selling a player who has had a good first season at the club. Why would he?

  24. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi and welcome Dave

    Pod up-front is just your and many other Gooners – me included – wish! 🙂

    I cannot see Wenger leaving Giroud out of the starting-11. He has become our pivot in attack and Wenger is unlikely to experiment in the remaining games.

  25. AFC says:

    TA, that’s what I thought too. Something about Podolski not being happy at not enough opportunities to play as Arsenal’s main striker.

  26. TotalArsenal says:

    Cheers AFC,

    How are you feeling about tomorrow’s game?

  27. Twig says:

    @TotalArsenal Why is playing Cazorla in the “hole” not be the best option for tomorrow? Isn’t Cazorla the best player for that role? Why make him less effective by shifting him out wide?

  28. AFC says:

    TA, confident we can get the win. 🙂

  29. AFC says:

    Twig, before Santi came to Arsenal I heard he played out wide.

  30. AFC says:

    The problem with Podolski upfront is that he is a CF not a ST.

  31. Bond James says:

    AFC, going by clubs wanting players then i can assure you there are clubs who show an interest in Ronaldo, messi, Wilshere e.t.c e.t.c

    it’s poldi now, it will be santi next ? this is sheer speculation i reckon, sometimes it’s done to unsettle the dressing room or create differences that don’t exist…there always seems to be someone out there with an agenda against one club or the other, i can safely say our club has been the victim of this, more so than other clubs in the past

    where is that 1.5 billion takeover from the sheikhs promising lower ticket prices, world class signings and so on, on the eve of an important game ?

    wenger signing a contact extention e.t.c e.t.c there are plenty of other stir up and wind up jobs as well, targeting the club

    Poldi himself has stated that he will stay another 3.5 years at arsenal and may even get a tattoo on the left arm with an Arsenal imprint (already has one on the right of his former club).

    that for me was a strong hint.

  32. AFC says:

    BJ, you are probably right. 🙂

  33. Twig says:

    @AFC Yeah, he played out wide, but when Wenger moved him central it LIBERATED him! He’s having his best scoring season ever. Why replace him with Rosicky who hasn’t scored all season? (Rosicky has scored 20 goals in 7 years for Arsenal, while Cazorla has 12 in his first season for Arsenal!).

  34. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi and welcome Twig, there is a long and short answer to all your questions, and as it is late where I am, it will have to be short.

    Cazorla does not give the same shape and focus to our team in that role as Wilshere or Rosicky. Cazorla likes to play close to the box/CF and attack as much as possible. He can do that from a free-role on the wing. However, as a team we need a conductor: somebody who keeps our shape, spreads the ball well and produces good through-balls, and who is also able to take on a player in-front of him and go past it. For me, that is not Cazorla, and especially if we are are to play Ramsey and Arteta tight in-front on the back four, our man in the hole will need to direct our attacking play a lot; Rosicky is that man.

  35. Bond James says:


    there is no substitute for experience, Ros is a canny old operator and that fox of a player we need in tomorrow’s game, against a very tricky and difficult opponent away from home.

    to be honest, TA could have Santi down as a CB for tomorrow’s game but we all know that santi will roam around the pitch where he wants and boss it, from where ever he wants in the free role given to him…

    i fully expect Ros to swap roles with Santi if the same formation and players are selected from tomorrow’s game.

    we must make the most of our set pieces and corners tomorrow !

  36. AFC says:

    TA, Giroud is better for us than Podolski as the main striker. His can hold up the ball better than Podolski which means he can bring midfielders into the match and they can play off him. As I said before Podolski is more a CF than ST which means he cannot really be a focal point. In a team you either need to have a focal point in midfield or attack. We do not have one in midfield so we have to have one in attack and Giroud is this man.

  37. Highbury Harmony says:

    Oh god, I cringe at the thought of Giroud being our main striker again next season.

  38. AFC says:

    HH, me too.

    He has quality but he is only good enough to be a squad player not your main striker. My brother has given him the nickname ‘the nearly man’. 😀

  39. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, you should read Redders comment about Giroud basically falling over when he tries to do anything with his right foot, I nearly rolled on the floor laughing!

  40. Highbury Harmony says:

    It was a while back on a Giroud article, but when you see it in person after reading that comment, it’s just so much better :).

  41. AFC says:

    HH, can you tell me why Giroud was brought into the squad. What does Wenger think he can offer exactly?

  42. allezkev says:

    I can only see the same team that started against Reading, starting against West Brom…
    A full weeks break should see them all fit and ready to take on a very difficult opponent…

  43. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, I love Giroud’s work ethic and I believe he’s a very good type of player to have in the squad, just not as a starter. He adds a different dimension to our attack and is good on set pieces, perfect for late in games. It’s easy to shut him out when he starts because teams can line up their defenses in a way that sort of eliminates delivery in the air, from the wings.

    However, if he were to come on late in games, defenses would have less of a chance to adjust and I believe he would come on more unnoticed and thrive in taking advantage of the slow adjustment. Just my opinion though, others are higher on OG.

  44. Highbury Harmony says:

    Also AFC, we aren’t set up to take advantage of OG’s strengths. At Montpellier, they lined up in a 4-4-1-1, with Belhanda playing close to Giroud and Belhanda demanded a ton of attention, often causing 2 defenders to commit to him when he had the ball. Thus, Giroud was able to sneak behind defenses much easier and play off the shoulders of the last defender even more. His movement is very good and he’s a quality poacher, but unfortunately Arsenal (since the arrival of AW) are not a team that has ever really thrived with that type of player.

    We would be much better served with a technical, fast striker like Jovetic, who can drop back and get involved with the link-up play, and still have the pace to re-join the attack.

  45. Bond James says:


    a certain Robin Van Persie used to be a CF instead of being a ST not so long ago –

    i don’t agree with that podolski comparison, he doesn’t need to hold up play like Giroud as he has the pace and can turn quickly to be on his merry way, is certainly strong enough to run past a fair few defenders or take them on, unlike Giroud who lacks the zest – Giroud is best use up front with an aid of another striker or vice versa……notice how most of our wingers are always cutting inside to the middle to support Giroud and play the arsenal way instead of staying out wide and supplying him the crosses more suited to his game.

  46. AFC says:

    HH, this is what we had with Bendtner. He was better as holding up the ball and bringing others into play than Giroud, infact the best Arsenal player in recent years performing this role. He is still quite young (younger than Giroud) but Wenger played him out wide at times, did not play him and now Bendtner does not want to play for us anymore.

  47. allezkev says:

    West Brom will keep it tight, Clarke isn’t an offensive type of coach.
    So we’ll just have to grind out a result, not the time of the season for fancy football, it’s all about the 3 points…

  48. AFC says:

    BJ, what I’m trying to say is Podolski is a false no. 9 which means he would be better off playing behind Giroud. Also RVP always had the body type to play as a ST.

    HH, why do we continue to but these players like Giroud. They do not fit into our system You do not see Barca saying we need a giant of a ST.

  49. AFC says:

    * buy

  50. allezkev says:

    Barca don’t play in the EPL…

  51. AFC says:

    BJ, Barca do not play in the Prem but in the CL they have battered us and Man U without a big ST.

  52. Highbury Harmony says:

    I wouldn’t say Giroud doesn’t entirely fit, I think he has a place in this squad, just not as a starter. We didn’t exactly pay an exorbitant fee for Giroud either ;). He is what he is – a hard working, strong, aerially efficient striker with really good movement and above averaging finishing. Also, he fits into AW’s collective team identity and seems like a great teammate to have around, who is generally always positive.

  53. AFC says:

    HH, he has a role in our squad but why did Wenger not play Bendtner then?

  54. JM says:

    No disrespect to Giroud, I would have believed AW’s better choices for the main man (after acquiring Podolski) might have went off elsewhere during the window: e.g. (1) MR who went to BD; (2) MM who went to BM. etc, while some others (the “top top” quality players) are unavailable/unattainable as their clubs do not wish to release them.

  55. JM says:

    Back to the starting line-up (it should be the same as our last game against Reading):

    Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal
    Ramsey, Arteta
    Gervinho, Rosicky, Cazorla

    Subs: Szczesny, Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Coquelin, The Ox, Podolski.

  56. Highbury Harmony says:

    Jm, I 100% agree that there were better options out there than Giroud. However, Reus already had a pre-contract agreement with BD in place from what I remember. In the case of MM, there was no chance we’d be able to outbid Bayern for his services.

  57. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, Bendtner is a complete idiot as an individual though. I’m tempted to say he’s probably one of the least intelligent players in professional football and probably a poor teammate as well. Between the fines he’s gotten for his celebrations, being caught for driving under the influence, other off field incidents he’s had and constantly taking swipes at Arsenal, it’s no wonder why AW never wanted to keep him or play him at his preferred position.

    I’d take OG over NB any day of the week, in terms of effort and for the sake of team cohesiveness.

  58. jeff says:

    wenger likes to change nothing when the team is doing well,i guess we could see the squad unchanged from the previous game. Cazorla is not less effective on the left imo,in fact he did amazingly last week,playing rosicky in the hole will add much creativity n movement. His one touch passing with cazorla often make opposition confused. i’ll go for the same line up today!

  59. henrychan says:

    Hi all..
    TA.. good post as always..
    But I don’t agree with your starting line.. hehehe..

    I think we must play Jenkinson and Monreal..
    Both of them didn’t play again WBA before.. So they will be our advantage..
    Playing Rosicky in the middle and Cazorla outwide.. also will be our advantage..
    And I hope Eisfeld be given chance to subs Rosicky..

    So my team will be:
    Jenkinson – Mertesacker – Koscielny – Monreal
    Ramsey – Arteta
    Gervinho – Rosicky – Cazorla

    Subs: Szczesny, Sagna, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Eisfeld, The Ox, Podolski.

    @ VCC..
    I try my best to catch you bro.. hehehe..
    That’s why I never choose a home win anymore.. to little point.. hahaha..
    But I don’t think I could.. hehehehe..
    But at least by the end of UMF league.. I’m still in top four.. qualified to UCL.. hehehe..

    Hope our up-trend will continue.. Cause it’s a must win game..
    Spurs again Everton without Bale, Lloris and Lennon..
    It’s time to narrow the gap with Spurs.. cause Chelsea will be more easier again Sunderland.. altough I hope Sunderland will give their best to avoid degradation..
    Draw will be a very great news.. hehehehe..
    Keep the spirit high.. Go Gunners..

  60. Twig says:

    Who else thinks Cazorla can play the Messi-role for Arsenal? They have quite similar physique and skillset and what’s more, Cazorla lets fly with both feet!

  61. Gerry says:

    Putting aside today’s game for a moment I will just like to take time to remember the theme running through the Gervinho blog …

    Nick Bendtner was a fine, confident player, so confident that he scored 10 points on a 0-9 scale questionnaire that measures these things. Even out on the wing, he still tried to do his best and was a great outlet ball because he could hold up the the ball so well …. But this was at a time when he had a serious relationship with a Danish princess? In my opinion, and that is all this is, when he messed up that side of his personal life the rest of it just went to pieces? He was still a young guy and has never really come to grips with it. I bet you will not find a single indiscretion prior to this event. So, just remember when dishing out the comments that he is somebody that messed up, but is still a person as well.

    HH – I cannot quite fathom your argument against Giro, in that you only want to use his work ethic for the last 20 minutes. Yes, I am one of those who do seemingly, rate him higher than you do … for all the good points about him that you make. There have been many top players who only had ‘a standing leg’, but it is what he does with the other that counts? Yes, the team is not ideally set up for him at the moment, but may be that is still to come? When I suggested Remy as a summer purchase that AW might like, because he is that sort that of player that would fit the role nicely. If QPR get relegated, £5m seems like a bargain to me, as you get two goal scorer’s in one. With a full season behind him, and a bit of time spent working on his right foot, I am sure he will come up to your high standards?

    Oh, and ‘your boy’ Jovetic is not exactly a scoring machine, even in a side that plays to his strengths? I goal in every 3 matches, and blighted by injuries??

    Back to the game today, I only suggest that Ox plays on the left partly for his his defensive attributes today. WBA will counter down the flanks, and if Santi goes missing it makes more sense to have the Ox out there? If we are on AW message about players playing for their places, then Podolski did not make a good impression? Perhaps he is a better starter, but I think it will be another outing from the bench, with Gibbs probably.

    As for WBA, they have changes that may make it better for us to open them up, as Mulumbo is suspended, and injuries elsewhere. This weakens their central partnership, so with quick wing play and Santi roaming, I sense another early goal? As long as we can use the width well I see triangles with Giro(top man ha ha), Santi and Gerv/Ox working well in and around their box. It then just needs the defensive pair of Rambo and Arty to block counters, and the back four to work as one, and everyone doing a proper job at set pieces, including the ‘top man’. Total package that guy???

    So 3 points it is then? Quick burst of ‘Be The One’ just before kick off, just to make sure …

  62. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Twig,

    Yes Cazorla can play anywhere and as such play in the Messi role. Unfortunately, he has not got the speed and ability to get past a man compared to the Messi. If Gervinho had the shot and finishing of Messi he could be a Messi like player, but he doesn’t.

    Cazorla in the free role means he can help out everywhere with his neat passing and ability to move the play forwards. It also allows him to be around the box a lot and get his shots away, which he loves more than anything else (and is a joy to have in the team this season).

  63. TotalArsenal says:

    Morning guys 🙂

    I am about to leave for Scotland and will be away for a week. I am hoping to be on the blog on a daily basis and issue a post most of the days, but it will depend on internet access.

    Please bare with me, and Gilc behave! 😀

    Here is hoping for a fine win this afternoon!

  64. VCC says:

    Total. Have a great time and be safe.

    Dont worry about GLIC , if he misbehaves, Terry, Red Arse and me will frog march him back to his asylum. 😉

  65. JGC says:

    Have a great break TA, I’m on airplanes to Belgium myself… Hoping to catch a game on tv during “real” hours!!

    Cheers — jgc

  66. Red Arse says:

    Excellent Post, TA, back to football today and your pre-match was just right!! 🙂

    Bit worried about the request to ‘bare’ with you, the vision of a naked Glic is really unsettling! 🙂 Watch out for those sneaky English words, ‘bare’ [naked] and ‘bear’ [persevere] and ‘bear’ [big furry critter], so any of the last two — but never invite Glic to ‘bare’ with you!! 😀

  67. VCC says:

    Red Arse. He can’t help it, he’s Double Dutch. 🙂

  68. VCC says:

    Tough game today lads. Anyone know a good stream at KO please post it. Many thanks.

    Rocky…..Herb…..Alex….I need your entries tute sweet please.

  69. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    NERVOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am feeling it now.

    Oz, get on here quick, i feel bad if you dont submit your UMF predictions. I did a bodge job.

    On the other hand, if they come through i would feel quite the gentleman. Now, that’ll be $20 bucks, a miserly ‘redback’ for all my efforts. 😉

    Morning BKrs. How are we all? 🙂

    Thanks for the great pre-match Total, and have a safe trip to the land of kilts, bagpipes, and haggis 😀

    Some awesome comments on here, always a joy to read. I think we will go unchanged against the tea bagging Hawthorns, although i expect a tight game and if the game is on a knifes edge i have an inkling that everyone, most will play a part. Ox to come on for Gerv, Prince Purrfect to come on and put 2 past them in 5min. hahaha

    @JM + HH, agreed on MR and MM. I believe we could have aquired either one of them a season earlier had we not been in the current situation with commercial deals and the stadium, leading us to be toooooooo conservative with our dosh in my opinion. If we were still parading about at Highbury, the less frugal Wenger would have gotten one of them as a back up to RVP. Its just my opinion but in those days Arsene was not afraid to upgrade when it was necessary. eg. Lauren was one of the best RB in the league, and one day Arsene said “bye bye Lauren, you were one of my greats. My top 11 in fact, but its now time to welcome Bacary”. There are many more examples of this genius, where other managers would have held on too long. Anyhooo, i blame the board for the more conservative Wenger and also for the departures of some greats. Just my opinion remember 😉


  70. alexgunners says:


    Sorry for being so late with my picks.
    Here they are:
    Southampton away
    Swansea away
    Stoke home
    Gunners away
    Everton away

    Thanks buddy

  71. VCC says:

    Morning Alex……just in time. 😉

    Your odds are = 93-1

    ROCKY & HERB……step up to the plate please…………..

  72. oz gunner says:

    crap crap crap…here they are VCC (sorry my internet bandwidth is on the brink so I’ll be unable to search for good streams. I’ll search for them and post links but i won’t be able to check them.)

    Everton vs Scum draw
    Toon vs Fulham draw

    Enjoy your holiday TA, hope it’s safe, memorable and you have a good time

  73. oz gunner says:

    also TA thank you as always for a very good pre-match and the perfect foundation for a good match.

  74. VCC says:

    Oz……the reason why Total has been quiet lately he has been making clogs to take to Scotland to sell.

  75. VCC says:

    Oz…..PPP entered your selections this week, did you not see them ?

    Read v Soton home
    Pool v WHY…….away
    Chel v Sund…….away
    New v Ful……….away
    Stoke v AV……..home

    Odd = 2567-1.

    Is he your enemy?

  76. VCC says:


  77. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Hey Mister, SHOOSH! 🙂

  78. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Hi Vics, 🙂
    How are you feeling about the game?

  79. VCC says:

    Hi Prince………Not good with predicting Arsenal games lately. Last week I said it was going to be difficult, but we beat them at a canter.

    I state the obvious, but its a must win if we want to reach 4th.

    If we get three points today we will get there, if not it will give Chelsea and Spurs a boost.

    After today ManUre is the only game I think we will lose, so win today and we can have a spring in our steps.

    Will be tight, but we have the Arsenal in our locker. haha


  80. oz gunner says:

    Don’t worry i re-traced his steps and saw them. Dodgy bloke that one, he’s as useful as a chocolate teapot 🙂

  81. VCC says:

    Oz…..I think your right, he’s been listening to GLiC too much.

  82. VCC says:

    catch you all laterzzzzzzzzzz

  83. RockyLives says:

    Good day TA and BKers

    Excellent pre-match. I like that you drew attention to the name of The Hawthorns. How much better than it being called the “Sony Playstation Arena” or the “Exxon Valdez Stadium.” It’s a shame that the historical stadium names are disappearing from the game – not least “Highbury” which, although never the official name for the old ground, was the name universally used for decades.

    And onto the game. Certainly not an automatic win, but we have momentum and desire on our side. If we can continue the work rate and professionalism of the Reading game (and the passing accuracy) I think we can do well.

    I reckon we’ll start with Gerv. But Pod and Oxo are both pretty explosive options to have off the bench.

  84. alexgunners says:

    Good evening guys.

    Hope all is well and we are all ready for a gutsy Gunners performance

  85. RockyLives says:

    UMF predictions:

    Naaarch v Swans – D
    Orcs v Villa – A
    ‘Pool v Hammers – H
    Toon v Fulham – H
    QPR v Wigan – A

  86. AFC says:

    HH, I cannot agree with you. Bendtner is very good at doing what he does; holding the ball up and bringing others into play. Have you seen what he does for Denmark. He plays very well and even scores quite a few goals himself.

  87. 17highburyterrace says:

    Very nice match preview and I’ve caught back up with the comments. (Not easy, given so many of them, with plenty of quality in depth….) Good writing, Total.–You’ve got quite a site on your hands here–Great job. Also, have fun in Scotland. It’s not a golfing vacation is it?….Speaking from personal experience, the house-husband/stay-at-home-dad gig can be good for one’s game….(winky face….)

    As for the line-up, I see only Gibbs in for Nacho. And then only maybe. If Poldolski came in ahead of Gibbs as well it would be quite the attacking line-up. And then, if Sicky got the start instead of Ramsey, Wow, it would signal extreme intent….

    Lukaku, the few times I’ve seen him this season, has come on very strong and will try all sorts of things on the break, no matter how silly or hopeless they might appear and Shane Long is more clinical than most forwards playing at this level. If both were to start (I doubt they will) we’d have to be very careful….

    Like I say, I’ve been trying to keep up with the posts and comments and in fact I found myself up in the wee hours (as is my wont before matches) trying to dream up Gervinho songs. How about something to the tune of “Moon River”…..”Ger-Vin-ho, (his forehead is) wider than a mile, (it’s) covered up in style”….etc., etc. (Or maybe substitute “forehead is” with “shots are” and “it’s covered up in” with “but he dribbles it with”…..)

    Onto (slightly) more serious matters…I’m not clear on why some folks persist with comparisons between players such as Arshavin and Rosicky or Bendtner and Giroud. I guess in dark times the idea that completely unprofessional players could produce if only they were played in their favored positions gives a sense of solace, or at least a stick with which to beat the manager…. Both those guys (Arsh/Bendy) were given chance after chance after chance and far less talented players contribute (more?) just with their superior attitude. (In a perfect world the talent that we can spot would always win out. The real world can be a far sterner test, and luck can play a huge role, see, for example Abou Diaby….) I agree about the obvious attributes Arsh and Bendy provide, but Giroud (for example) has been a useful route 1 target (allowing our shaky keeper to avoid distribution errors to his shaky CBs and our less than perfectly powerful DMs….) despite it clearly not being a strength in his game….

    Ramsey will start this match (as will Sicky and Giroud) and there is a reason. Showing some spirit and grinding it out against mid-table teams is the essence of English football, a problem compounded by the wide range of refereeing (or lack thereof) in our league. We only got our 3 points at home against WBA on the back of pens. I wouldn’t expect Howard Webb to indulge us up in the Black Country today…..

    So, here’s to 3 (big, big) points today, with increased belief up and down the squad, and maybe the opposite transferring to the London rivals we hope to nip up on…. Go on!!

  88. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Strewth. You would think that 17highburyterrace was related to GoonerB. haha.

    Great comment 17highburyterrace. You could write a post for BK which im sure will be well recieved. In regards to Howard Webb. I have seen worse. I agree he can be shocking at times but i think he is more pro-manure rather than anti-Arsenal. A win today wont affect manures’ title tilt. If he is neutral today, i believe we are good enough for the 3 points.


  89. 17highburyterrace says:

    Sorry about the long post….(Too much coffee with our California kickoffs….)

    Line-ups out….No changes….

    WBA: Foster; Jones, McAuley, Olsson, Ridgewell; Yacob, Brunt; Dorrans, Morrison, Thomas; Long

    Subs: Myhill, Lukaku, Popov, Brown, Rosenberg, Fortune, Tamas

    Arsenal: Fabianski, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Arteta, Ramsey, Rosicky, Cazorla, Gervinho, Giroud

    Subs: Mannone, Vermaelen, Jenkinson, Gibbs, Coquelin, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Podolski

  90. 17highburyterrace says:

    Oh, also agree about Webb….he’s very predictable. He’ll buy any dive near the center circle (to keep the focus on his gorgeous bald pate and big pecs….) but is loath to ruin the match–the best time to dive (for a pen) is if the game (and your team) needs a goal….

    The downside, is that if that’s the M.O of the best ref in England (all of Europe or the world. Didn’t he do the WC/CL double a couple of years back?)….what does it say of the rest of them?….

  91. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    The worst is that pro spudz one. The little git did a ‘hopskipnjump’ when those skanks from the swamps scored. Forgot his name?

    Cheers for the line-ups, i was pretty sure hed go unchanged. Why fix it if it ain’t broke? 😉
    Ps. dont apologise for long posts. always good reading.

  92. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:


  93. Michael says:

    He won’t change the line up for the next game either and the following game and the next game their after etc, not until Wilshere returns. Podolski has arranged it with Wenger to play him in a cameo role until the end of the season.

  94. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Michael, maybe the medical staff arranged it with Wenger and Poldi due to him carrying a knock. Maybe that is a possibility, dont you think?

  95. 17highburyterrace says:

    Mike Dean….(To answer PPP)….And I actually think he’s not the worst, but also an ego-maniac. Clearly not afraid to call early game-changing pens esp. against us (Koscielny grab vs Man City this season)….

    Sneezy not even on the bench today….

    I’m not sure about the Poldoski/Wenger deal (link? or inside info–even better….) but he does represent real firepower off the bench, though I like the idea of Gibbs on that left side (ahead of Nacho) if we can stake ourselves to a lead….

    Tough match today. WBA is a solid team….Inneresting that Lukaku doesn’t start….

  96. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    I think the subs from both sides will decide the game. COYG

  97. oz gunner says:

    thank frick lukaku isn’t starting

  98. oz gunner says:

    i’m amazed sagna has never improved his crossing capabilities. Surely at the end of training you could send in 20+ crosses everytime until you get better

  99. Highbury Harmony says:

    Does anyone have a working stream for the game? Thefirstrow is crap today!

  100. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Oz, that is what made Dennis. Along with his beautiful vision of the game, he knew that with consistent practise his vision would lead to perfection 😀

  101. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says: is an awesome site and simple

  102. oz gunner says:

    webb that cheat! I’m certain we were going to score from that break 🙂

    An consummate professional our dennis!

  103. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    phew Rosa.

  104. oz gunner says:

    try the flashes on here HH. Nutjob is normally pretty reliable

  105. 17highburyterrace says:

    Flappy and Gervwhiff-yo at the defensive end. I’ll forgive Sicky doing likewise on offense (outside of the right foot from the left flank) for heading it of our line…..

  106. Highbury Harmony says:

    Gerry, Giroud is pretty poor as a starter which is why I want him as a super sub. His work ethic often leads to nothing and while he works hard, he doesn’t work smart and often forces things to happen. He offers nothing aside from an aerial presence to our attack/defence/flick ons on most days that we don’t capitalize on anyway (in the case of offence). He’s poor at holding up the play, doing anything with his right foot, playing with his back to goal, has no pace, his passes are often misplaced, his decision making on shots is decidedly poor and the list goes on and on. However as a sub later in games, more of these deficiencies can be masked and there are generally more set pieces given late in games that we can capitalize on.

    In the case of Jovetic, at least he’d offer us more in build up play than Giroud and he has pace to join the attack and to make good runs and not be left behind the play. Remy is sort of a flash in the pan type player that I do not want. He doesn’t have the same level of determination and passion to his game that Jovetic does. Remy is perfect to lead the line at a mid-table club, who fades on the bigger stage.

  107. Highbury Harmony says:

    Thanks Oz! Will try and see if that link or any of the others work 🙂

  108. 17highburyterrace says:

    Geez, a couple of shaky corners and our confidence goes wonky….Flappy needs a change of nappy?…

  109. Highbury Harmony says:

    Hmm Oz, none of them are working for me…do you ever have issues with those links? I’m on a mac by the way (if that makes a difference?)

  110. oz gunner says:

    yessssssssssss! i love you gerv and rosicky!!!!!!

  111. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    ROSA i love you man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



  112. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    and the SWERVE, gotta show the love 😉

  113. Highbury Harmony says:


  114. 17highburyterrace says:

    Did Sicky Steal Gerv’s goal?….Replay show’s that his shot was (sing it with me)….Wider than his (s)mile….

  115. oz gunner says:

    that just worked for me HH. I never use them because i get them live down here but that always works for UFC events and is pretty reliable. You have to click ‘play now’ on the ones that say ‘flash’
    [EN] = English.
    sometimes others are better quality but aren’t English.

  116. Highbury Harmony says:

    Got a working link from streamhunter, thanks for the help oz!

  117. Highbury Harmony says:

    It’s situations like those that I wish Gerv played with his head up more!

  118. oz gunner says:

    No prob HH. Can’t have you missing an Arsenal game…especially if/when Giroud scores 🙂

  119. 17highburyterrace says:

    Help people…. I love a game day chat but only a couple of comments are getting through. WBA is pushing hard for an equalizer….Good to see our MFs helping on defense but we gotta stop fouling and Sicky almost looks rattled by his goal. Thomas looking their most dangerous player….

  120. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    well done Fabianski. We need someone to step up…a leader.

  121. Highbury Harmony says:

    Hahaha Oz, I knew you would come to his defense. My opinion of him will never change even if he does score. I like him as a squad player and super sub, nothing more. He’s already made a plethora of mistakes this game!

  122. Highbury Harmony says:

    I understand the call from Webb’s angle, but on the reverse angle, it’s an easy no call on Rosicky.

  123. oz gunner says:

    fricken sagna, lift the thing!!!!!!

  124. 17highburyterrace says:

    Ha, ha I think I figured out the error of my ways. Kos and Monreal are playing some serious D, but Webb loves a whistle…away from the box (thank god….) Sicky now on a yellow….

    Flappy seems to have settled, however….

    Decent break there, but corner comes to nothing….To close to the box for a call, Gerv….

  125. 17highburyterrace says:

    We need our Spaniards to settle possession a bit. Great tackle there by Mikel but Santi’s been quiet….Gerv’s desire to always push (and never look up) can bite you in the ass….


  126. Highbury Harmony says:

    Ramsey…facepalm hahaha

  127. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Fricking hell that would have been a sexy goal. Vintage Arsenal, Ramsey having a good game so far…

  128. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    should have blasted first time

  129. 17highburyterrace says:

    A little lack of confidence in his left foot there (Ramsey)….very poor….Flappy pounded by Thomas on the corner….

  130. oz gunner says:

    @ HH

    is that your game is it? Paying arsenal players to miss so giroud doesn’t grab the assist and you prove your point! shame on you!!! BLAME CANADA!!!

  131. 17highburyterrace says:

    Foster’s like the English Woah-Check Shay’s Knee….

    HT, tough match, hope we don’t come to rue that miss. Nice work on the lead up from Santi and Giroud….

  132. Highbury Harmony says:

    17ht @ 15:45, if you re-read what you wrote at the end there, you might want a different choice of words hahaha!

  133. Highbury Harmony says:

    @ Oz hahahaha! I swear I don’t actually have it out for him! Whatever helps us win, I do not care about :). I only want a new striker this summer, we need goals to finish well this season.

  134. Highbury Harmony says:

    That Arteta long ball is why I said he could be our Pirlo as a deep-lying playmaker 🙂

  135. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Wait till Monday HH 😉

  136. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Id happily take a repeat of the first half.

  137. Highbury Harmony says:

    Very fair point PPP 🙂

  138. oz gunner says:

    Haha. nah i agree. in all seriousness we need another and jovetic would be great just sitting behind him.

  139. Twig says:

    Is Cazorla playing this game at all?

  140. oz gunner says:

    I agree PPP, minus the corners and set pieces. Make me cringe everytime…both ends

  141. 17highburyterrace says:

    HH….Sometimes the fingers are faster than the editor….Indeed, poundings by J. Thomas should be administered, not taken…. (And truly, I don’t mean to offend anybody, if there are any ladies on the site, for example….)

    Well spotted….

    On the lack of love for Giroud, I was astounded that he didn’t blast that with his favorite foot. Maybe that’s why he tries to shoot from the center circle….(and, noting that, at least Ramsey’s shot from that range found the target—Arghhhh….)

  142. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    id give park, chamack, bendnter and arshavin to Borussia with 20 mill for Reus and Gotze.

    ….and the Beatles sang “dreeeee-am dream dream dream dream dreeeeeee-am” 😆

  143. oz gunner says:

    I think i actually want lukaku to disappear off the face of the earth. I know it’s bad to say but i know what a handful he is going to be against us in the future. We had to suffer enough with drogba. I’ll get jason bourne on to it!

  144. Highbury Harmony says:

    Hahaha 17ht, not offensive at all, just absolutely hilarious to read from my naughty perspective (I’m sure glic would agree) 😉

  145. oz gunner says:

    I’d throw in Sagna, Diaby, mannone, and denilson too!

  146. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Damn…had Sanga finished that it would have been a wonder goal..ran the length of the pitch starting from an intercept.

  147. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    I can live with that. Even a box of Aussie meat pies 🙂

  148. oz gunner says:

    Yes rosicky again!!!!!! Don’t ever leave, we love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  149. 17highburyterrace says:

    SICKY—3 shots, two goals!!!!

  150. Highbury Harmony says:


  151. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:


    The resurgance of Rosa. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

  152. oz gunner says:

    @ PPP

    ease up there, we don’t want to give them too much! 🙂

  153. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Love the away support. “one Arsene Wenger, there’s only one Arsene Wenger, ONE Arsene Wennnnnnnnnnger” 🙂

  154. 17highburyterrace says:

    Oz…. Why the Sagna hate? Immaculate defending there against Thomas….

  155. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Its important we show unity against the pirahnnas of the media. Leave the laundry for behind closed doors..

  156. oz gunner says:

    No flap there, that was all power haha. he just went up one notch in my book.
    That’s one quick hematoma!!!

  157. 17highburyterrace says:

    The sharp elbow of PM4—That’ll leave a mark….

    Chelsea boy to enter the fray….

  158. Highbury Harmony says:

    That was a serious right hook by Fab

  159. oz gunner says:

    @ 17

    No hate. I think he’s a great defender (top servant for the club) but he’s on the decline. I think Jenks will slowly over take him and he might take that one last big pay check (PSG, and I wouldn’t be opposed to cashing in on him). Bellerin is coming through too

  160. Highbury Harmony says:

    Hahaha that was all back, not sure what the complaint is

  161. oz gunner says:

    plus, for reus and gotze…come on!

  162. Highbury Harmony says:

    That is why I dislike Mert, does that once a game and gets his CB partner in trouble.

  163. Highbury Harmony says:

    at least once a game*

  164. oz gunner says:

    come on gents, settle down another clean sheet is needed!

  165. oz gunner says:

    oh dear!

  166. Highbury Harmony says:

    Oh great

  167. 17highburyterrace says:

    OZ….I wear a BS3 kit (won in a fantasy league….) so I’m partial…. For me, it seems easier and better to keep the real professionals than buy up the dreamboys.

    Uh-oh, game on….

  168. oz gunner says:

    sagna to CB, ramsey to rb?

  169. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    aaahh bollocks

  170. Highbury Harmony says:

    Mertesacker’s lack of foot speed

  171. Highbury Harmony says:

    Fab almost had that

  172. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Sagna CB, Jenks on and sacrifice Rosa im afraid or Gerv

  173. 17highburyterrace says:

    Agree with that OZ….(Another reason BS3 is the man?)

    Fabs gotta be mad about that one….

  174. oz gunner says:

    thank goodness Verm is coming in. Lukaku would monster sagna

  175. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    TV the better option with Lukaku

  176. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:


  177. 17highburyterrace says:

    Here comes Cappy!!

  178. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    squeaky bum time. Come on Arsenal!

  179. Rohan says:

    hey guys, Lukaku is looking scary….silver lining- i think vermaelen is better suited to deal with him than mert.

  180. oz gunner says:

    and here’s me hoping to see pod and ox come on. bloody webb you card loving,arsenal pass blocking sod!

  181. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Sick abs bro 😆

  182. 17highburyterrace says:

    No tan however….The price of leaving Malaga?….

  183. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Girouds tiring badly, time to take him off imo

  184. oz gunner says:

    @ PPP

    indeed. lucky for VCC his incontinence pants leave him prepared!

  185. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    17HT 😆

  186. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Oz 😀

  187. oz gunner says:

    bloody hell this is under siege 3! Where’s Segal when you need him!

  188. Rohan says:


  189. Rohan says:

    as I say that gibbs is coming on.

  190. Highbury Harmony says:

    Sagna is really getting dominated by Lukaku right now, good thing Gibbs is coming on for extra support.

  191. 17highburyterrace says:

    Just wide, Kos held his ground well…Gibbs on….for the Brace-boy….Hold on You Gunners….

  192. Highbury Harmony says:

    Gibbs with a stupid play watching the ball as soon as he steps onto the field

  193. 17highburyterrace says:

    Muchas tarjetas amarillas, pero era necesario….

  194. Highbury Harmony says:

    Arteta’s pass obviously needed to be better too

  195. Rohan says:

    does this remind anybody of the fulham game last season.

  196. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Thank fook

  197. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    might have to change the daks

  198. Highbury Harmony says:

    Who is Sagna marking?

  199. 17highburyterrace says:

    Torres would’ve finished that one….Luckily next year’s chelsea manager wasn’t watching….

  200. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Giroud labouring

  201. 17highburyterrace says:

    We still have a sub? Time for Lu-Lu up top?….

  202. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Fabulous Fabi

  203. Highbury Harmony says:

    Gibbs needs to track back, too far up field, not helping the d out

  204. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    …………..heart attack………………. 😦

  205. oz gunner says:

    surely jenks in extra time to hold up

  206. Rohan says:

    Fooking hell, nearly had a heart attack

  207. 17highburyterrace says:

    Flappy Brave there….I need the nappy he seemed to need earlier…

    Thank god these guys can’t hit the target….

  208. Highbury Harmony says:

    Why didn’t Coquelin come on earlier? Stupid substitutions yet again…

  209. oz gunner says:

    guess coquelin. good we need his energy because at the moment we look absolutely spent.
    5 mins how on Earth???

  210. oz gunner says:

    if it was united with webb it’d be 20 secs.

    Honestly, no injuries, no big hold ups. joke

  211. 17highburyterrace says:

    Giroud waving his hand means that he’s fine, right?

  212. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:


  213. 17highburyterrace says:

    Nice kick, fabs….Giroud seems to have recovered…

  214. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS HAPPPPPPPPPPY DAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  215. Highbury Harmony says:

    Geez what a sigh of relief!

  216. oz gunner says:

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS! thank frick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Arsenal you beauty!!!!!!!!!

  217. 17highburyterrace says:

    Nice Victory!!!… Just need to wipe up so I can enjoy the rest of the weekend….Very enjoyable chat as well….

  218. oz gunner says:

    glad to have you around 17. Enjoy the rest of your day gents.

    @ PPP

    get to bed! enjoy the rest of your w/e

  219. Highbury Harmony says:

    7 points for me already in the UMF league…who’s that coming up over the hill?? It’s a handsome devil, it’s Highbury Harmony!!!

  220. Highbury Harmony says:

    Oh and in other less important news, Arsenal is now 4th place in the table.

  221. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Cheers Oz, You too bud. Nite all, doubt ill sleep, maybe on later.
    Cheers 17HT, enjoy the weekend. happy happy dayze

  222. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    HH, the pressure is now on Pool, Chelski, Spudz, and Everton. Squeaky bum time as fergiescum would say.

  223. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    From a confidence and momentum point of view, it was imperative to get the 3 points. Big big win away from home, down to 10. Tommi gun with a clean sheet 🙂

  224. Highbury Harmony says:

    We’ll see how Spuds cope without Bale for the next three weeks, if it weren’t for him, they would be in the middle of the table this year.

  225. VCC says:

    Well done Highbury Harmony………UMF ……….7 points with two games to come

  226. Highbury Harmony says:

    VCC, is that the high for today’s games? 😉 I was tricking you all in the UMF League and pulling an Arsenal with late season heroics. Of course, my only goal is top 4 hahaha!!!

  227. Bond James says:

    Bond James PERMALINK
    April 6, 2013 00:33 @

    yep , no substitute for experience, indeed

    well done Ros,

    and wenger sort your tactics out, he is even worse at making substitutions than Roy Hodgson….

    i did call out shout for subs to be made at the hour mark, had he brought on podo and the ox at 60 minutes, we could have made our lives much more easier by keeping the pressure on them…

    we won a game we did not deserve to win today but will i complain ? no sir

    3 points and with that bye bye the spuds and chelski for the top 3!

  228. VCC says:

    HH…top scorer at the moment. 🙂 still two games to come tomorrow. 😉

  229. VCC says:

    Bond James….we got out of jail today……Poor tactics from Wenger in the second half

  230. VCC says:

    Highbury Harmony….that rockets you up to 75 points into 4th position with two games to go tomorrow.

    Well done. At that rate you will do a Lester Piggott and come up on the rails and hopefully get into first spot.

  231. Bond James says:

    wenger has always been a reactive manager instead of being a proactive one, for me that has been the difference between him being an extraordinary manager to being a good one – his subs or lack off

    would people like Jose M or dare i say SAF wait as long as he does for his subs when he has a strong bench with the score being 0-2 ? i doubt it.

    Giroud should have made way at 60 minutes for podolski, i’m not sure if he was in the game until that back heel set up for ramsey or until the 94th minute when he shot wide (mind you, he could have easily taken the ball to the corner flag and killed time off) – often makes me wonder if Giroud has a footballing brain ? 9 times out of 10 he chooses the wrong option.

  232. VCC says:

    Bond James…….that’s reiterating exactly what we were all saying about Giroud at the end of the game.

    How right you are, Wenger is a reactive manager and sometimes would benefit from being a proactive one. 70 minute subber.

    Giroud was woeful today. I’m not going to go through all the comments that were made in my local, but he was just a complete waste of space today.

    What gets me, you will still see some supporters protecting his useless performance today!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Good Evening my friends

    As i prepare to feast myself on a chicking curry from tescos with no chicken in it, the main course is watching us on football first later.

    Great three points, but cant pass judgement coz i havent seen the game yet.

    What i will say however is this is one in the eye for those Rosisky doubters. Now lisiten here. Some people might post later that i have openly critisised Thomas. My answer is not to believe these vile lies which i believe is a blatent attempt to undermine my carachter and integrety. Now if any of you do try to slander me in any way, be warned that my solicitor, Alexander Takeyourcashopolous will sue your ass.

    Indeed, Takeyourcashopolous succesfuly defended me last year when i was accused of been a Bum Bandit. All lies of course, despite the photographs. hahahaha

  234. Highbury Harmony says:

    VCC, as I reiterated it’s not all about winning trophies. I have a responsibility to be financially sustainable and to not incur massive debt like others in the league. Top 4 is a personal achievement and something to be proud of, especially if it can be accomplished year after year.

  235. Highbury Harmony says:

    BJ and VCC, I completely agree. Giroud is just god damn awful at times and his decision making is often remarkably poor. As I’ve been telling people for months now, while his work rate is admirable, he wastes a ton of energy because he chases the game and doesn’t know how to work smart.

    His shot that was wide at the end of the game, mirrored the same thing he did against Sunderland when we were up 1-0 and down to 10 men. On a 4 on 2 counter at the end of the game, he decided to take a shot that went miles over the bar instead of passing to the open men that had a better chance/could have killed time. Always trying to be the hero that he isn’t.

  236. AFC says:

    HH, in my eyes Giroud is no better than Chamack.

  237. AFC says:

    * Chamakh

  238. AFC says:

    The best move I have seen from Giroud in an Arsenal shirt was when he attempted that 30-40 yard lob in one of hisss first matches. After that I though we may have a player of some serious quality, since then I have been convinced otherwise.

  239. AFC says:

    * his

    Not sure if this is true HH,

    For France, Giroud 17 appearances, 3 goals
    For Denmark, Bendtner 55 appearances, 22 goals.

  240. VCC says:

    HH…I hope I am wrong, but I have detected players are reluctant to get forward in a hurry to support OG as he will not deliver the goods.

    If I were playing in the same side as him I feel I would not bust a gut to get there and support him as I don’t feel confident he will deliver the ball, then I have to get back and support the defence if things (almost) break down.

  241. VCC says:

    (almost always)

  242. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, Bendtner is the leading man in Denmark’s attack though and he’s known to be their finisher. He’s always excelled on the International stage and is successful when playing in a smaller side where he is the center of attention (like Denmark, Sunderland etc.). As soon as he’s on the big stage (Juve, Arsenal etc.), he falters because there are more talented players around him that deflate his confidence, through their ability to take over games without him (if that makes sense).

  243. Highbury Harmony says:

    VCC, I’ve noticed that a lot and Santi often opts to shoot or hold onto the ball opposed to playing those defense splitting passes to Giroud. Earlier in the season, several players were playing him those balls, but he continually let them down. Throughout the season, teammates still occasionally make those passes to him, but have increasingly preferred not to play the ball to him at all. Obviously, I’m not entirely sure if the two are correlated (lack of confidence in OG leading to lack of delivery), but there’s definitely some merit to your theory.

  244. Admir says:

    Great victory today.

    I’m writing match report for so I’ll be quick. I’d like to add something in Wenger’s defense regarding not substituting Giroud. I believe that Wenger knew that at some point of the game we will have to deal with aerial threat of Lukaku. Had Mertesacker didn’t get his red card, I believe that either Pod or Ox would be introduced instead of Giroud. Given that we were trying to preserve our 2:1 lead without our tallest defender, Giroud’s presence in those moments was reasonable.

  245. AFC says:

    HH, at least Bendtner has proved he can do it in one of the hardest stages in world football even if he has not for Arsenal. He plays for quite a small national team and has scored against some big national teams. Gervinho also does it for IC and this again proves to me he has some quality. I have not seen Giroud’s quality anywhere.

    Also remember Bendtner scores goals for Denmark but also gets his fair amount of assists. Many called him one of the worst finishers they had seen, same with Gervinho but when they really need to deliver for their country they do. Giroud is called a great finisher although I have not seen much great finishing from him.

  246. allezkev says:

    Giroud put in a shift today.
    He may not be the most talented striker around, but he battled away, often with two West Brom defenders leaning all over him.
    And played a major part in our win today.
    Of course that may not be enough for some, well so be it…

    He also received zero protection from the referee.

  247. AFC says:

    HH, at least you can name times when Bendtner has excelled. At least he performs sometimes.

  248. Michael says:

    You all seem to be giving Giroud a lot of stick. He was Wenger’s Marquee signing.

  249. AFC says:

    Michael, all I am trying to say is that Giroud is not better than Chamakh and I do not see why Wenger has brought Giroud when he has Bendtner who is younger, performs for a worse team internationally and and is better at holding up the ball and bringing other midfieders into the game than Giroud.

  250. VCC says:

    Admir, whilst I hear what you are saying about Wenger keeping OG on the pitch after Mertesacker had been sent off, I don’t go along with your theory.

    It’s impossible to prove, but if Mertesacker had not been sent off and we played the ninety minutes with eleven men, I would lay money OG would not have been taken off and subbed?

    The longer it goes, the more I am seeing OG will not develop into a force in the premier league.

  251. Admir says:

    AFC, Giroud scored an equalizer in the last minute against Spain in away match. He has already scored 16 goals for Arsenal this season and became only second player after Thierry Henry (the first one was Santi Cazorla) to score ten goals or more in his first season in Premiership.

  252. Bond James says:

    Michael ,

    as were and are his medical and support staff including steve bould (marquee signing) but least they were more involved in the game than the great striker Giroud himself,i swear i saw Steve B involved more times than G.


    Chamakh, poor man’s Bentender, Giroud Poor man’s RVP.

    i am yet to see G score a one on one goal when through to the keeper, why wenger refuses to use Podo as the lone striker is beyond me considering he could be more clinical and decisive, the german has the most powerful shot in the whole of this team (admitted openly by wenger)- just bl%%dy utilize him properly…
    if you can give Gerv and Walcott a chance there, then do the same with Podo (not so much so a chance considering he has played plenty of games up front for his former clubs/country

  253. AFC says:

    Admir, but have his 16 goals been important goals?

    Also he plays for France, Bendtner has scored goals against top international teams before as well.

  254. AFC says:

    BJ, that’s what I am trying to say.

    Was Giroud really an improvement on Bendtner. Giroud is called a great finisher although I have never seen brilliant finishing from him. Benzema is called a great finisher and I have seen him score from finesse shots from the most unlikely angles.

  255. Michael says:

    I can’t recall one notable moment in which Bendtner has delivered in an Arsenal shirt. The comparison to Giroud is ridiculous.

  256. Bond James says:


    G scored against spain sure, using his head , not hard when you get a quality cross from the left supplied by ribbery.

    he may have scored more than 10 goals but for me he has missed 3 times as much, it’s hard not to score playing for this arsenal team and midfield in particular…i think the answer to everything lies in this next question – when was the last time G scored against half a decent team (or one that was in the upper half of the table).

    i’ll rest my case on G with that question and i hope we do buy a world class striker that we deserve, using G as a super sub or from the bench to give us PLAN B.

  257. AFC says:

    Can anyone see Giroud turn into a world beater.

    I see the potential in Balotelli,we saw it in RVP but I do not see it in Giroud.


    Which Giroud are we debating?

    The Giroud in the penalty area is a top player. Attacks the near and far posts with agression and movement, scoring goals. In the box, his power and physique allows him to set up others too.

    The Giroud outside the box is lacking ability, unsure of his movement, and in all honesty looks less than average.

    if you are in the camp that believes that we can climb to the dizzy heights of title contender with a Box type striker then there should be no concern. If on the other hand you feel that we need a more all round forward, who can play at a higher technical level all over the pitch then Giroud is not your man.

  259. AFC says:

    BJ, agreed.

    Giroud is 6 foot 4. Come of course you are going to score headers. I am shit at football and I am 6 foot 3 but I am sure that if praticed enough with my head for a number of years I would also be able to score headers.

    Also why do we need a plan b. Barca do not have a giant ST. You do not see teams who game is based on crossing buying the smallest Spanish STs who cannot head to save their lives.

  260. Bond James says:


    if you’re going to compare G with B then i’ll say he’s a definite improvement on Bendtener, both attitude wise (on and off the pitch) as well as scoring goals using his head at least or giving us a plan b , bendtner was giving plenty of chances at arsenal and had years to impress the gaffa and the fans yet he failed most of the times to win his coaches, manager or the fans.

    Giroud least shows his professionalism and has a great work rate and ethic – you can see he is a team player and wants to do well for the team (sometimes tries too hard and fails).

  261. AFC says:

    TMHT, is Giroud really that much of an improvement on Chamakh and Bendtner.

  262. AFC says:

    BJ, but how old was Bendtner when he was given these chances compared to Girouds age now. Also Wenger played Bendtner out wide at times and sure he is arrogant but who isn’t.

  263. VCC says:

    AllezKev………Putting in a shift doesn’t constitute being a top striker. Any one can run around, but Giroud was at times like a head less chicken.

    IMO todays ninety minutes display from our recently acquired centre forward didn’t instil me with warmth.

    Hope I eat my hat, but he is not going to be a premiership top striker.

  264. Admir says:

    @Bond James – half a decent team? How about Bayern about a month ago?

    I’m not saying that Giroud is a world-class striker – he is not. I wrote at about him and I compared him with Kanu.

    All I’m saying is that Giroud has place in this Arsenal and that I’m glad that we have him. He bought my trust in his second appearance of the season (against Stoke) when he was our best defender. Today’s performance wasn’t exactly the best one but he was involved in almost thirty goals that we scored this season and Rambo missed a sitter today to make Giroud’s tally regarding assists even better.

  265. AFC says:

    VCC, at least someone gets what I am trying to say. I do not see the potential in Giroud to become a top striker. I am sure you, me and everyone else on BK would also work hard if we played for Arsenal but if we do not score goals what Is the point.

  266. AFC says:

    Let’s compare Giroud to other strikers who play for top teams.

    Torres was once a world class striker.
    Ba is better than Giroud.
    Rooney, RVP, Chicarito are all better than Giroud.
    Welbeck has the potential to be better than Giroud.
    Dzeko, Tevez and Sergio all better than Giroud.

    Now let’s compare him to the other forwards in out team.

    Walcott, Podolski better than Giroud.
    Ox has the potential to be better than Giroud.
    Arshavin was once class and better than Giroud.
    Gervinho if he can sort himself out will also be better than Giroud and in my opinion already is.


    AFC, not much realy, no. But having watched Chamack and Bendener enough then i would give him the edge. On ability there is no doubt that Bentdner is a better player, but unfortunitly for Nicholas, something seems to be missing mentaly.

    The signing of Giroud was not some ill thought venture or joke. Both Arsene Wenger and the France national coach knows what he brings to the table. He is a very good Box player, but is limited in other areas.

    From an Arsenal point of view, there was a period a few years back that we dominated so much of the ball but lacked power and physique in the area. Arsene tried to address this with the signing of Chamack and now Giroud.

    The question is not realy about Giroud the individual. Its more a question of wether Arsenal can eventuly match the bigger teams with a striker who is predominantly effective only in and around the penalty area. Personaly i have big doubts, but if i counted the amount of times ive been wrong about a player, i would be counting all day.

  268. AFC says:

    TMHT, and that is why I am sceptical on the signing of Giroud. Wenger should have developed Bendtner instead.

  269. AFC says:

    Welbeck you could say is quite a similar player to Giroud. He does not score much either but when he does they are quality goals, he is still very young and has the workrate level of Giroud.


    to be fair to Wenger AFC, he did give Nicholas plenty of chances. The other day we were debating crowd reaction and how it can effect players. I can asure you that going nearly every game that the crowd grew very weary of Nicholas. At times he looked as though he was nursing a hang over, he was so bad. Its a real shame, the guy had loads of ability.

  271. Bond James says:


    and where are we now in the champions league ?

    for the avoidance of doubt i asked for half a decent team in the premiership – i took into account the goals vs spain (thanks to a brilliant cross fed into him) and also the goal against munich (against a brilliant fluked pass by theo).

    the difference between good strikers and world class strikers ? good strikers need service all the time – world class strikers create them on their own when needed the most (rvp against sunderland).


    a CF needs to be able to play in all 3 positions up front, nothing wrong with wenger playing him on the wing as it was essential for his development, i don’t buy that argument…it’s the same with Ramsey, he’s been asked to play every where as part of his development and no doubt jack wilshere would be the same next season, if you fail to deliver then using this argument of being out of position doesn’t do it for me considering football is a team sport and if it’s your bread and butter you just get on with it and relish the challenge.

    good players prove and show their worth anywhere on the pitch really ,yaya toure, santi cazorla, wayne rooney, bale , e.t.c e.t.c

    if anything, wenger playing bendtner on the wings should be used in favourable terms not adverseable – bendtener had the talent, skill and technique but he blew it. (can he turn it all around, maybe but not in England or Spain, that’s for sure.

  272. AFC says:

    TMHT, Bendtner did get chances but he was very young at the time. He is around 25-26 years old now. He has been on loan for two seasons so this means when Bendtner was playing for us he was around the age of 20-23 years old. This is too young to judge a player.


    Thats very true AFC. In mentality Bendtner shares a lot of simalarities with Sczesney. Mabey a touch to confident.hahaha.

    Perhapes, it was this over confidence and mishandling of the situation when not in the team that resulted in Wenger showing him the door, who knows?

  274. AFC says:

    BJ, in my opinion Bendtner needed to be developed further. He was thrown in at the deep end to early. Supposed Wenger started playing him a few years later we might have seen a better player.

    But Wenger said he wanted Bendtner to stay but Bendtner wanted to play in all of the important matches and that is why he said he will never play for Arsenal again. So Bendtner kind of ruined his career at Arsebal himself.

  275. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC @ 22:05, there’s a huge discrepancy between Giroud and Bendtner. Bendtner lacks the mental strength and team mentality to ever allow himself to truly succeed over a sustained period of time. In Denmark, he somewhat fits in with his compatriots and they only have to play with one another every so often, so his stupid antics and terrible personality are rather isolated.

    Based on the ability to fit into a team and have the mental strength to stay determined in the face of adversity makes Giroud a better striker than Bendtner. I would rather have a less talented player who shows up to work hard every day than a talented striker who comes to play once every four weeks.

  276. AFC says:

    TMHT, Wenger wanted him to stay but Bendtner wanted to play in all of the important matches. Bendtner said when he saw his name was not on the teamsheet for the League Cup final he knew his time at Arsenal was up. He has said he will never play at Arsenal again because he does not play in important matches.


    yes, i am aware of this AFC. As i said, a liitle over confident hahaha, and a poor attitude when not in the team probably led to his exit.

  278. AFC says:

    HH, Bendtner is arrogant like Balotelli but what you have to remember is that when Bendtner was playing for us he was only 20-23 years old so you have to forgive his immaturity a bit.

  279. Highbury Harmony says:

    Admir, pointing out the number of goals Giroud has scored in his first season is not that impressive, when you consider the quality of those goals. The number is not reflective of the opponents he’s scored against either. 5 goals of those 16 goals have come in Cup competitions against weak opposition in Coventry City, Reading, and Brighton respectively. Then there are the tap ins and headers, which when evaluated as a whole, half are the result of fantastic delivery and maybe the other half skill to direct it into the net.

    What we should focus on is Giroud’s inability to score goals when it matters most. Aside from the tap in at Bayern in the 2nd leg, the two goals against Brighton (again weaker opposition) and the equalizing goals at Fulham and Liverpool (both headers), I can’t recall him stepping up to the plate, especially against the top clubs. The quality of goals concerns me more than the quantity.

  280. AFC says:

    TMHT, Bendtner was too confident, too soon. He should have been more arrogant when he was a better striker. Balotelli and Ronalso can afford to be arrogant because they are to pquality strikers.

  281. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, he was fined at the most recent Euros for exposing his underwear and then he was banished for the rest of the season at Juve after being caught by the authorities for driving under the influence. Remind me, how has his maturity improved?

  282. AFC says:

    * quality

  283. Highbury Harmony says:

    BJ @ 22:20, you’ve summed up my thoughts about OG word for word. Great job pal.

  284. Bond James says:


    great minds thinks alike ; )

  285. AFC says:

    HH, Tevez is too in trouble for driving offences. Balotelli also causes trouble but he is a quality striker. At least Bendtner is not cheating, and being racist.

  286. Highbury Harmony says:

    BJ, as you’ll see from my comment @23:21, did not have the benefit of knowing you already wrote what I basically said earlier hahaha!

  287. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, the difference between Tevez and Balotelli with Bendtner? The former two take advantage of second chance opportunities and can still produce on a fairly regular basis, despite their off-field and behavioural issues. Bendtner? He can’t even take advantage of a fresh opportunity and will no longer be welcome in La Liga, EPL or Serie A.

  288. allezkev says:

    VCC, I never said that Giroud is a top striker. I’m just a bit weary at seeing him slagged off in such a negative manner…

  289. AFC says:

    HH, agreed.

    But in years to come when our kids and grandkids ask us who Bendtner and Giroud were, we will tell them “they were they were just decent strikers who played for Arsenal once upon a time.” 😀

  290. AFC says:

    And nothing more.

  291. Highbury Harmony says:

    It’s interesting reading the comments about OG, there seems to be a distinct spectrum developing.

    At one end, there are the definite “haters” in AFC, VCC, Herb and BJ (Michael are you in this category?) hahaha!

    Then there’s the slightly pessimistic who save some optimism, who see him as a good squad player and are happy to have him and his work ethic, so long as he’s not a starter next year in myself, RA, TA and TMHT (PPP I believe you’re in this category with us?).

    Then there’s the slightly optimistic who shed some pessimism, who see him as a good squad player and are convinced he’ll eventually come good in some shape or form. This category includes Allez, Admir, marcus (not sure but I think Alex is in this category).

    Then there are the overly optimistic bunch who seem to share the same optimism for any Arsenal player and believe all will come good and just need more time (Imo it’s a fear of stating their opinions because they’re afraid they’ll ever be wrong 😉 ). This category includes Oz and Henry (maybe Gerry and Milo too? not sure if you’re in this category or the one above).

    And then there’s Glic, aside from popping broners about Isco, I have no idea what he thinks hahaha!

  292. Highbury Harmony says:

    The third category should also state that the grouping also believes he deserves and should remain a starter for the most part and be complemented with another striker to get the best from him.

  293. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, I will not mention Bendtner or Giroud to my grandkids. That would be a colossal waste of time. I would rather save my breath and talk about more meaningful and noteworthy players hahaha!

  294. AFC says:

    HH, I am not a Giroud ‘hater’ and I do not want him to leave Arsenal. He is a decent to good not a good to excellant, striker who can offer a lot to Arsenal, as a squad player not as our main striker. If Wenger buys another striker to play with Giroud or instead of him I have no problem.

    I jsut feel Giroud will never be good enough to play as our main striker.

  295. Admir says:

    Guys, I think we have a bit of misunderstanding here. 🙂 I don’t claim that Giroud is a world-class striker. I just think that it’s a good thing that we have him and that we shouldn’t put him in the same basket with Chamakh and Bendtner.

    It’s a bad thing that we don’t have Cavani/Falcao/Benzema, though.

  296. Highbury Harmony says:

    Allez, you are absolutely right that the slack we are giving OG is unnecessary right now. We won the game today and should be happy with the accomplishment.

  297. Highbury Harmony says:

    Haha AFC, ok you can be moved into my category. I really don’t think there are any true haters, most of us are just pessimistic when it comes to him.

  298. AFC says:

    HH, you said it yourself. Giroud and Bendtner are not meaningful and noteworthy players. Giroud may have the upper hand but if they are in the same category.

  299. AFC says:

    HH, all I am trying to say is that Giroud is not miles better than Chamakh and Bendtner. He may have a slight upper hand but that is it. If you had to class all strikers in the world into categories we would put them all in the same category.

  300. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, I have never disagreed with you on that my friend :). Still not sure where I rate OG, but in terms of for Arsenal, I put him above those two if that makes sense.

  301. AFC says:

    HH, you may put him above Chamakh and Bendtner but you cannot confidently say he is miles better than them.

  302. allezkev says:

    HH, how did you rate Fabianski today?
    A few hairy moments, but his handling seemed generally secure.
    Would you like to see the club offer him a new contract in the summer?

  303. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, I never said that though, did I 😉 ?

  304. Highbury Harmony says:

    Allez, I thought Fab was good enough, which is all we really need from our keeper right now. Not sure if the sun had anything to do with him misplaying some of those corners, but he also looked a little shaky on corners in the first half too. However, at the end of the day he got us 3 points and was confident and reliable when we needed him to be.

    I would not extend him as I believe there will be keepers who have better histories for being reliable in the transfer market this summer. Fab is playing well for us now, but it’s only a matter of time before the softies/mental lapses cost us. Also, he should have had the pen today. I’m of the opinion that if you can get a hand on it, you should be able to save it.

  305. AFC says:

    allezkev, I do not know if you read my post called four reason why we should not buy another GK in the summer?

    Anyway I was saying that Fab should be given a new contract as he is more than capable of filling in for Szec when needed. Also with Wenger needing to buy in the summer the money for a new GK could be better utilised for outfield positions like CB, DM and CF/ST. A GK needs to be brought but it is not a necessity. A new GK can be brought the season after next season.

  306. AFC says:

    HH, you get my point though. 🙂

    Maybe now with TA gone, me and you should lead a takeover and run the blog by with our view that fans cannot affect players’ performances. 😀

  307. Admir says:

    Very important news – apparently Varane has minimum fee release clause in his contract set at 30 million euros and Barcelona are ready to make a bid for him. Varane is going to be the best central defender in the world in the next few years and I think Wenger should try to sign him.

  308. allezkev says:

    AFC, I’m somewhere in between you and HH, and yes, I did read your interesting post…
    I suppose the next few games will show if he has what it takes…
    HH do you have any goalkeepers in mind, who you would like to see brought to the club in the case of Fabianski leaving ?

  309. AFC says:

    Admir, why would Varane leave Real to come to Arsenal or Barca in that fact? Is he not ahead of Pepe now for Real?

  310. glic says:

    Morning Scatapheliac`s 😆

    Great win, as in great win needed, every game is a must win game, so every win is a great win, so what the f**k am I on about ? no idea !. hahaha

    I`m glad I was pro-sick note the other day !. How do I describe him, well, he may be 32/33, but he has the energy level of a 10 year old unsedated altar boy trying to escape a priest at a Vatican dogging session in a confession box !. hahaha

    I`m also in the semi-pro Ollie camp, a horses for courses player , but give me an Aguero/Suarez type player please for a high tempo, high pressing game.

    Had to laugh this morning when I read on newsnow that Manu want some Sound Technicians to sort out the atmoshere at Old Toilet !. It`s hardly surprising though is it that the atmosphere is quiete, by the time their supporters get there from London and Surrey they are f**king knackered, just give them some Red Bull on entry !. hahaha

    Hope you have a great time Total, on your clan survey up in Sweaty Sock land, a bit of advice, stick your hand up a jocks kilt and if he has a quarter pounder……he`s a Mcdonalds clan !.
    And with that bit of advice , I bid you lot goodnight !. 🙂

  311. AFC says:

    allezkev, Cesar for me. Cheap, won things (I think) and experienced at both club and international level.

  312. oz gunner says:

    @ AFC

    bugger the Bendy talk out of here. I fear his two seasons away have lifted your opinion of him. I’ll never forget that heavy touch against Barca in the second leg. Yes he plays well for Denmark, so what? Park plays well for South Korea but you don’t see him lighting it up for Arsenal. It’s like factoring in Denilson for our future midfield plans. Bendy + Sunderland = fail, Bendy + Juve = fail. Both are out the door, both have sh*t attitudes, couldn’t care less.

    @ HH

    hahaha you sod. Never a problem stating my opinion (I think you atmosphere debate is a load of bollocks but we’ve agreed to never bring that up again 🙂 )
    I’d like to be moved in to group 3 thank you very much. I do shame some slight pessimism, simply because if we don’t adjust to his strengths (play with a good striker/attacker) just behind him we won’t get the best out of him. I don’t think your argument of ‘he scores against the lower sides etc’ carries much merit because at the end of the day he scores them. When teams either lose/draw against those lower/mid table teams those strikers/attackers like Dzeko, Torres, Bale, Defoe, Aguero etc didn’t score. We’ve underestimated opposition teams countlessly in the past so i don’t care when he’s banging them in as we need to win every game.

    At the end of the day if Ramsey tucked away that goal from Giroud’s tidy flick we would all be singing a different tune. 1) he gets another great assist 2) we cruise through the game and he gets more support up top 3) he gets subbed and doesn’t have to run himself in to the ground. As far as I’m concerned after the red card it’s a non-issue as it’s Arsene’s job to set up tactics/subs.

    True, I do show a lot of faith in players. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn’t. A lot of people wrote Ramsey off (including selling him. I know you’ve never said that and have stated you see him as a squad player) but he’s slowly bringing people around. I’d much rather be the guy saying ‘i told you so’ when a player comes good as opposed to those w*nkers who say ‘i told you so’ when we lose/an ARSENAL player fails.

    Also I hope we sign Jovetic and both he and Giroud really click with one another and the rest of their team mates. If Giroud improves out of sight then Giroud and myself will fly to the house of everyone who has every doubted him so that he can beat you all silly with his big Baguette! 🙂

  313. allezkev says:

    Cesar sounds a good option AFC…
    Could be a few QPR players up for grabs this summer?!
    Been a long day for me, so goodnight all…

  314. oz gunner says:

    @ GLIC

    after Terry’s out of character comments regarding Rosicky I say we ride him out of town. I think there’s something in that Tesco’s food he doesn’t know about. The steroids and growth hormones they give to the chickens are passing through him and giving him roid rage! The last thing Terry needs right now is an acne covered/ shrinking telescope.

    Also discovered a Tesco’s country league that Terry plays for, not sure what team he plays for though.


    Wigton Harriers
    Wigton Athletic

    hahahaha what great team names!

  315. AFC says:

    UstOz gunner, j remember how young Bendtner and Denilson were when they played for us.

    I would love for us to have Denilson back. He is playing well in Brazil now has matured as a player and as a man, knows how to play Wengerball and we would not have to pay a penny for him.

  316. AFC says:

    * Oz gunner, just remember how young Bendtner and Denilson were when they played for us.

  317. alexgunners says:

    HH @ 23.38

    You are spot on mate. I do believe that OG he will come good and I do hope that he will not turn out to be another Chamakh. I guess I have to be somewhat optimistic as we have seen over the years that we will not spend on a top notch striker, so I sit and hope that AW will help him to develop into a consistent PL scorer.

    OZ @ 00:31

    You are correct in saying that despite these players performances for their national sides, they were never able to prove their worth in The Arsenal. Bendtner’s attitude sucks and if he (The Greatest Striker – according to him anyway) is not careful he will find himself in a hole as he has not done much at all in the past 2 season, let alone the seasons that he was with us.

  318. oz gunner says:

    @ AFC

    If Denilson comes back an puts on an Arsenal shirt I think I’ll blow up the planet. Two things spring to mind and tie up Denilson nicely. 1) his jogging back on opposition counter attacks repeatedly (Bale yes but Jenas too!!!) 2) him falling over towards the end of the game (like he was shot) with no one around him, looking over at Rice asking to come off the field, and Pat Rice telling him to get up and keep going.

    Also I don’t know where you get your information from because a mate of mine that follows the Brazilian league says he has been average at Sao Paulo. My response always is “yep, sounds like Denilson.” Also the Brazilian league definitely isn’t high up in best leagues in the world.

    Yennaris, Coquelin, Frimpong are all (and should rightly be) light years ahead of Denilson.

    @ Denilson

    if you are reading this…you have been warned…death awaits! 🙂

  319. AFC says:

    Oz gunner, there has been a period during his time in Brazil where I have heard he has played well.

    Also, I cannot see why you rate Bale so highly.

  320. alexgunners says:


    I follow the Brazilian leagues very closely and to be honest he has not played any better than he did with us. Despite the fact that he has been playing regularly over there, if he were to return to us, he would not bring us anything more than he did 2 or 3 seasons ago

  321. AFC says:

    Alexgunners, thanks for correcting me. 🙂

    As I said I heard he was playing well but I never watch teams from Brazil but as you do you know more than me on Denilson.

  322. alexgunners says:


    No Problems at all.
    I am Brazilian and he fits well in the Sao Paulo league as there are only 3 other strong teams in that league. When Sao Paulo plays in the Copa Libertadores (South Americas equivalent to the CL), the opposition is not really that strong as the standards are nowhere near as high as in Europe.
    There is a reason why all top South American players strive to go to Europe and not the other way. The only reason players generally go back is because they are homesick or coming towards the end of their career as they will still be able to play for a few seasons more.

  323. AFC says:

    Alexgunners, I always thought the league in Brazil was at the sort of level as the French League but it now seems it is around the level of the SPL. I do remember either Sao or Corith winning the FIFA Club World Cup so I thought they could kind of mix it with Europe’s elite.

  324. Michael says:

    If you’re brazilian why have Brazil been so poor for the last 27 years. Romario and Careca were the last great Brazilian Players.

  325. alexgunners says:


    The league is similar to the French League. There are some good teams and some very average ones. Corinthians won the FIFA Club World Cup but keep in mind that it is played in Japan on a neutral ground. Chelsea did not perform well and the Corinthians had been on a break for a while so their players were fresh. European teams generally find themselves competing in various other tournaments during this cup. Thus giving the advantage to the South American teams.

    I’ll be heading out for breakfast not and I’ll catch up with you guys shortly.

  326. AFC says:

    Alexgunners, I get what you are saying now. 🙂

  327. 17highburyterrace says:

    OK, back from skiing….You guys are wild (and I wish I had your energy to debate all these things). Those are some seriously outlying opinions, AFC, on the glory of Denilson, Bendtner, Arshavin, etc…. Where do these ideas come from? It seems to me the manager went to extraordinary lengths to give the younger guys chances and more chances. I’d also like to suggest that just because Arsh wears #10 for Russia doesn’t mean he played in that spot. I was sure he was a winger (ahead of the guy who went to Chelsea) at the Euros in ’08. And, for me, there was nothing sadder than watching Arsh standing around and doing absolutely nothing on the left wing over 2 legs to lose the WC qualifier against Slovenia.

    It’s still daylight here and I’m just now coming down from the squeaky thrill of riding my soggy underwear those final 20-25 minutes. So many chances and we’re very, very lucky that Lukaku and Long were this year’s version of Martin Fulop. Sometimes teams just cannot score and we were lucky that was the club we played today. Overall, however, our inability to keep a little possession and try and kill the match was emblematic of the deeper issues in the team. With iffy keepers (distribution below iffy….) and an unsteady back line we need better DMs. Some of those heavy touches from Ramsey made me glad he was playing ahead of Santi most of the day, except, of course, for the time he needed the extra touch to get the ball onto his right foot for the toe-poke wide….For me, we need Jack back ASAP….

    We were also fortunate that we were as efficient as we were as (frankly) we didn’t create nearly the chances I thought we might. WBA played a disciplined and committed match but TR7 was razor sharp when he got his chances which proved to be the difference. I’m ready for a little Poldoski, Ox-Cham and Theo worked into the line-ups. Three matches in a week (all in London) could go a very long way to getting the club onto a positive trajectory for the summer and next year. I think WBA away was actually tougher than the upcoming ones, but there’s no possible way the ball can continue to bounce so lopsidedly our way….

    Finally, isn’t Olivier Giroud a stop-gap? He’s old, he’s one footed and (like most strikers) he’s relentlessly selfish. He’s also a bit silly with the writhing on the ground and the hand waving thing. (But, at least, he’s never actually injured…..) From what I’ve seen I’m grateful that he got over his early missing streak and got a few in the net. I’d be equally grateful if he could match his stats next year (and I pray he has legitimate competition from a healthy Lulu, Theo and somebody new. The notion that we’re going to buy a 40 million pound striker is absurd and we should have equally low expectations of 18 million pound Jovetic if he turns out to be our guy. I like the idea of greater mobility up front (a false 9 with wide forwards filling in). A bit more of that plus playing the ball (with greater confidence) out of our own half means less watching Olly fish-jumping for all those long balls from keeper….

  328. AFC says:

    17highburyterrace, Arshavin is not a LW, he has been placed there a lot of times but he is more of an CAM/CF. Someone who can play in the hole. This is why often when he plays for Arsenal on the LW his workrate, covering and speed is exposed.

  329. AFC says:

    Also 17highburyterrace, I do not want to see Walcott and Wilshere back into the starting line-up unless there are injuries. We must keep the same team that has been winning match after match. Bringing Jack or Theo back in could unsettle the team. That is why Wenger is not changing the team for matches. He is spot on. We should stick with the same starting eleven that started todays match for the rest of the season unless there are injuries or players get tired. Rosicky and Gervinho and even Ramsey are playing well. Changing the team would see a drop in their form.

  330. Highbury Harmony says:

    Oz, the difference is that all those strikers score timely goals that help their respective teams win games. Giroud is not capable of doing so, and I cannot wait to get him out of our starting line-up and a permanent super sub next season :).

  331. Highbury Harmony says:

    Allez, I also like Cesar as an experienced back-up keeper as he often bails QPR out of games and does not get much support there either.

  332. AFC says:

    I’m off now, speak to everyone tomorrow. 🙂

  333. AFC says:

    HH, you are right we definitely need another CF/ST to replace Giroud or play with him.

  334. 17highburyterrace says:

    What I’m saying is that Arshavin most certainly played as a LW for Russia in his impressive ’08 Euro campaign and his far less impressive WC qualifiers. This past summer he might have played more centrally but he definitely got gassed early in those matches too. I contend that there is nowhere on the pitch where his (lack of) workrate wouldn’t get exposed. Even Andrey himself complained that he was no center forward when both Chamakh and RVP were unavailable a couple of years back.

    Regardless, this is all ancient history and it’s pretty sad that he’s chosen to ride out his contract rather than accept a move to a club where he would actually play. What a waste of talent….

    Obviously, I’m new here so I don’t know the history of all the posters, but it’s curious to me why some are so hot to go on various ideas that are so far removed from reality (absurd transfer names/money amounts, bringing back clearly failed players, etc.). In places I used to post it was usually when the hate for the manager had reached a level where nothing positive could be recognized. I don’t get the impression that you’re done with Wenger (and have been that way for X number of years, as people like to say….) which is why it seems so odd to me that you don’t see that calling time on Denilson, Bendtner and Arshavin were good moves. Admitting that “mistakes have been made” seems super tough, but better to cut losses than persist when the evidence is overwhelmingly against you….

  335. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, preferably the former. I hate the thought of having two players on the pitch up front to compensate for weaknesses (aka mostly Giroud’s). Good night mate.

  336. Rufus says:

    I agree with you.

  337. AFC says:

    17highburyterrace, as TotalArsenal aka Total and TA (who is the owner of this blog) is away, I feel obliged to speak on behalf of myself and the other bloggers on this site.

    Firstly my comments. I do not want Wenger to bring back failed players. Denilson’s career at Arsenal did not go as well as everyone hoped. I did not say that I want Wenger to bring him back, I just said I would like to see him back at Arsenal. Regarding Arshavin. I want Wenger to sell Arshavin as I feel this is the best move for himself (so he can get back to doing what he does best, which is playing football) and for the club (as there is no point in keeping a player and paying his wages if you are not going to play him). Wenger actually wanted Bendtner to stay but Bendtner chose to go out on loan as he felt he was not getting enough opportunities to play in big matches. I do not want Bendtner to come back, I was just saying that Bendtner could do the same job as Giroud is doing now and in my opinion (which other bloggers on this site have disagreed with and have the right to) is that Bendtner is better than Giroud. I have also said (which other bloggers have agreed with) is that Giroud is not a massive improvement on Bendtner and another CF/ST definitely needs to be brought in the summer to either replace Giroud in the starting line-up or to play alongside Giroud in the starting line-up.

    Now on the comments of other bloggers on this site. Everybody on this site has their own individual ideas on what should be done to improve our team; who should be brought, who should be sold etc. Most bloggers on this site know the reality of the financial situation Arsenal are currently in (debt from our stadium, maximum wages we can offer players etc) and in our discussions and debates of which players we want to come to Arsenal or think have a chance of coming to Arsenal, we are often are aware that Wenger cannot go out and spend 40-50 million on one player and cannot bring big names like Falcao to Arsenal. When suggesting players to come and solve the problems at Arsenal we take these factors into consideration and many times when I have been talking to other bloggers on this site I have not heard absurd transfer names/money amounts being talked about. Nobody on this site wants to see Wenger bring back failed players. We easily admit that mistakes have been made by players themselves and Wenger and we simply have discussions anddebates on what could have happened had these mistakes not been made. Many bloggers on this site do feel that calling time on Denilson, Bendtner and Arshavin were good moves and many bloggers on this site such as myself also feel that these players were not given chances to perform.

    Also, this is what RA, another blogger on this site said on a previous post, “We all understand that 99% of what is discussed on footie blogs is simply opinion, speculation and conjecture, which only leaves 1% as indisputable fact.”

    What you, myself and all the other bloggers say on this site, regarding Arsenal, players and Wenger is our own opinion. At times bloggers on this site may agree with each other and at other times bloggers may disagree with each other. To simply put all of the bloggers on this site into one group who all believe the same thing is wrong!

  338. 17highburyterrace says:

    Thanks for the lengthy response, AFC. I’m most definitely for all sorts of discussion and I don’t mean to lump everybody into one category (which I don’t actually think I did…). Opinion is the essence of the blogger’s world and everybody is entitled to their own. Overall, this group has serious depth in quality and so much energy that I’m actually a bit intimidated. Maybe that’s the thing….Maybe I’m just surprised that we could move from such a super sweet (and very squeaky) victory to things like Giroud vs Bendtner (where I more or less agree with you….) so quickly. Ah well, I’ll find my feet, and I have to say it was a ton of fun doing the virtual pub thing with PPP, Oz and HH (among others) as my day was getting started.

    So, sorry if I stepped on anybody’s toes….There are other things I might go into (like disagreement with the call for zero rotation given three matches in 8 days, coming up) but there’s plenty of time for that as we get more info (the “injuries” you suggest, maybe)….


  339. AFC says:

    17highburyterrace, If I have misinterpreted any of your comments I am extremely sorry. I also hope I have not offended you with any of my comments and I am looking forward to having many great debates and discussions with you in the future. You are a fine addition to this wonderful site which TA has set up and I hope to speak to you again very soon. 🙂

  340. alexgunners says:

    AFC & 17,

    That’s the beauty of this blog. Everyone has their own opinions regardless of what it may be. Whilst there are discussions most of us know what each others opinions roughly are. It’s a great forum for us all to share our thoughts about the Beloved Arsenal. Unlike many other forums, This is a civilized place to voice your opinion.

  341. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    8 hrs sleep, wake up to the smell of roast lamb, Arsenal win , Arsenal in top 4, Bale Lennon Gallas still injured, Everton chomping at the bit, PPP still grinning ear to ear.

    Happy days 😀

    Who gives a shit about bendy and denilson? Enjoy the win, football is all about these great memories (and virtual pub meets for the unfortunate who cannot go to games 😉 ) !!

  342. alexgunners says:


    How are you buddy. It was a tough win but it is a great day for all the reasons you have just mentioned

  343. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    re Bendy, imo his contract should be torn up for certain breaches and misdemeanors. I dont appreciate my/our club being associated with these events. He has had numerous chances to turn it around Tony Adams style but seems like Bendy barks louder than he bites. Its a shame that our club are in such a financial situation where every pound counts and we believed we could or still could make some money on him or at least recover some. He is the biggest waste of talent i have seen at the Arsenal in a long time.

  344. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    im good bud. Sun shining, and a relaxing Sunday arvo. Looking forward to the Spudz v Toffees game. Wonder why? hahahaha 😀

  345. alexgunners says:


    Fingers crossed for a good result. Maybe Spuds 1 x 3 Toffees with Adebayor getting sent off. Am i asking for too much??? I doubt it

  346. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Oz, your Kangaroos are doing a good job on the Cats. Might end up being a great weekend for you. Hope the Eagles trounce the Hawks. 🙂 (apologies to the people who will never understand Aussie rules 😉 )

  347. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Alex, i was thinking more Vertonghen. hahaha

  348. alexgunners says:


    Good Point Vertonghen is having a stellar season. We could have done with someone like him.He is now tainted by playing for the spuds.

    Are you an Eagles Supporter?

  349. jgc says:


    Just worked through the list.. goodness! Anyway, my brief comments:

    1. As it is so rare that I am so very *right*, I want to point out my comments on the rotation article saying we needed very good players like Rosicky on the bench.. If I am utterly *wrong* next week, I will refuse to recognise I ever said anything.. 😉

    2. In that same line, the discussion of OG I think is valid. I think he offers more, and remember an assist only exists if there is a goal no scored matter how you count it. Specifically, a very good player who, if we find the “right” striker this summer might sit on the bench more, but contributes very well and is good in the locker room. Rotation is often needed (and injuries happen), so, IMO, OG is needed.

    3. I saw some comments that riled a little on the quality of OG goals. Where I grew up we used to say “it doesnt matter *how* the ball got there, there it is!” … barring certain Argentinian “methods” … IMO, there is no such thing as a bad goal, they all count the same. I’d rather have a lucky guy with 20 “cheap” goals than a great striker with 19. Just my 2p on that…

    To me, all Arsenal players on the squad are *great*, especially when they are on the field and regardless of whether I know better than the manager ;)… until they leave… 😉

    I may recognise some things that could be better, but still, they are “ours” … That said, and thinking of my kids report cards, I’d much much much rather have “tries hard, needs improvement” in place of “could try harder” … Recognising that doing great and getting neither would be better yet!

    Finally… I really liked the resilience today!!!

    cheers — jgc

  350. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Unbelievable game. You got robbed Oz.

    Alex, agreed on Vertonghen, although if he keeps this form up we could do a ‘sol campbell’ with him. haha

    Yeah im an Eagles supporter. Ironically the first game i watched was Sydney swans v eagles and Sydney were playing an ugly ‘tony liberatore’ wrestling style game. (bunch of queens 😉 ) and eagles played a free flowing hand pass and run game which was similar to the counter attack of Arsenal with Bergkamp. It was a no brainer. 🙂

    Oz is gonna be SO cut

  351. alexgunners says:


    I am all very well aware of the ‘Libba’ style of play as I have been a life long suffer and supporter of the Bulldogs. I know what playing ugly is all about and the lack of success, don’t even go there. Fellow Arsenal supported think that not winning anything is hard. Try 57 years without a premiership

  352. VCC says:

    Morning all fine Gooners.

    How nice does that feel, waking up to an Arsenal win. 🙂

    We made it hard for ourselves at the end but thoroughly deserved the three points. WBA are a tough outfit to turn over.

    Fingers crossed Tottenham Hotspurs and Chelsea slip up today.


  353. alexgunners says:


    Morning to you. Like you we are all hoping for the same.

  354. VCC says:

    Alex, thank you for posting a link yesterday. I was fortunate in the end my local had the game through Greek TV. 🙂

  355. alexgunners says:

    No problems at all, the main thing is that you got to watch the game

  356. Red Arse says:

    Good Morning to all you fine feathered roosters!! What a difference a win makes. The sun is shining here, for a change, and now to watch Spurs loose!! 🙂

  357. Red Arse says:

    I might have meant ‘lose’ — but loose Spurs works too! 🙂

  358. VCC says:

    Hi Red Arse….no one wants to talk to you today. It might have something to do with your aftershave? 🙂

  359. Rufus says:

    To get the best out of Giroud you need to play in a 4-4-2 system.

  360. alexgunners says:

    Hi RA,

    Looks like there’s not many people here at the moment.


    Ime here Alex.Tell me about yourself. Any women in your life? Dont be shy, uncle Terry is all ears. hahaha

  362. alexgunners says:


    There is only one woman in my life and that is my wife. I understand that Uncle Terry is all years but there is not much to me at all. Apart from being from Down Under, my life is basically filling in the gaps between games like most of us

  363. Rufus says:

    That’s right

  364. Admir says:

    Hello, all! 🙂

    Just a few things to say.

    @AFC – regarding Varane – I think that Arsenal need to make a statement signing and that usually means signing of world-class player. When Florentino Perez used minimum fee release clause in Luis Figo’s contract in 2000, he killed three birds with one stone: 1) he got himself a world-class player, 2) he sent a message to other world-class players that he was interested in that he means business and 3) he took one of the best players of his arch-rivals. Now, if Arsenal sign Varane, young and excellent central defender from Real Madrid, that could be a boost similar to the one when we took Sol Campbell from Spuds.

    Regarding quality of goals – of course, it is much better when you have world-class strikers like Bergkamp and Henry who can create their own goals out of nothing but, like someone noted, every goal counts the same. It is highly unlikely that goals of Gerd Mueller, Filippo Inzaghi and Mario Gomez would pass any quality test but it’s their quantity that speaks for itself.

  365. alexgunners says:

    Cmon Everton!!!! Teach those spuds a lesson

  366. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Yesssss, c’mon tofees

  367. TotalArsenal says:

    Afternoon guys – You have been busy! 😛

  368. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Hi Total, how was your trip?

  369. alexgunners says:

    You beauty!!!!!!!!
    Go Everton. Continue to punish them

  370. VCC says:

    Afternoon Totes….how was the journey?…..Ava G8 time……….how long you up there for?

  371. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Everton leading Spudz 2-1 at Shite Hart Lane with 75min gone. These last 15min+ are as excruciating as the final minutes in our game. arrrrrrrgh Come on Everton, hold it out!!

  372. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Sunderland 1-0 up at half time.

    Unbelievabubble!!!! 😀

  373. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:


  374. TotalArsenal says:

    New Post New Post!

    AFC believes, with good reason, there is still much Abou about Diaby! Enjoy the debate fellow Gooners! 🙂

    AFC, I have rubbish connectivity at the moment, and will try to add in picture later.

  375. TotalArsenal says:

    Prince, had a great journey thanks! Puppy did well whilst 10 hours in and out car. 🙂

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