Which striker to buy in TW and what to do with Giroud: replace, rotate or main man?

Giroud has often disappointed many Arsenal fans this season.

Giroud has often disappointed many Arsenal fans this season.

Every Arsenal fan knows that Wenger will buy a new striker in the summer, but many fans are split on what role they want this striker to have at Arsenal; whether that be playing with Giroud, replacing Giroud from our starting line-up and being our main striker, or being a squad player and rotating with Giroud.

Giroud is our only out and out striker at the club with Chamakh and Bendtner out on loan and likely to be sold at the end of the season. People may point out that Walcott, Gervinho and Podolski have played as the main striker many times this season, and we may see one of these players used there permanently next season, but I feel this is unlikely. They will be needed to play out wide next season, and Wenger has also stated that he feels Podolski plays better out wide, and we know that in certain games where teams defend deep, Walcott can be ineffective as our main striker.

When it comes to Giroud there are generally three view expressed by fans. I will explain these views to you in more detail.

The first is that Giroud is the right man to be our main striker and has the quality, desire and workrate to become a brilliant striker for us but; as this is his first season in the Premier League, he is taking time to adapt and needs to be given time to settle if he is going to become a great striker for Arsenal. Giroud cannot be expected to perform brilliantly in every match he plays in his first season in the Premier League. Another striker is needed at Arsenal in order to take some of the pressure away from Giroud to perform in every match he plays in.

The second is that Giroud is just not good enough to be our first choice striker and no matter how much time he has to adapt to the Premier League, he will never be good enough to be our first striker. He lacks the composure in front of goal which means he will never be able to score lots of goals to become a great striker for us. He is only good enough to be a squad player and nothing more.

The third view expressed by fans, is that, Giroud has all the qualities needed to become a great striker for us but he is not getting the support which he needs. And in the summer transfer window Wenger needs to buy another striker who can play alongside Giroud with the skill set and technical/physical attributes, which will allow this new striker and Giroud, to complement each other when playing for Arsenal.

The question is now, whether Wenger is buying a new striker with the thought that he will replace Giroud from the starting line-up, play alongside the Frenchman in the starting eleven, be rotated with Ollie in the starting line-up, or to deputise for him next season.

I feel when Wenger does buy another striker in the summer he will not permanently replace Giroud from the starting eleven. I see Wenger rotating Giroud with the new striker, although the new striker may be given a slight preference to the starting line-up.

As Arsenal fans we may disagree on our opinion of Giroud, or what role at Arsenal a new striker is needed for, but we can all agree that Wenger needs to buy another striker in the summer, which I am sure he will do.

Taking what I have said in this post into consideration, could you tell us the names of any strikers you would like to see at Arsenal, what you think they could offer to Arsenal (how they would solve our attacking problems) and what role you would like them to have at Arsenal.

However there are three conditions you have to take into consideration when coming up with your choice of striker:

The striker you choose should have an affordable transfer fee that Arsenal would be able to pay.

The striker you choose should have affordable wages that Arsenal would be able to pay.

Your suggested strikers should have good reason to come to Arsenal/have a very good chance of coming to Arsenal.
If writing any other comments, I would like you to take this question into consideration.

Do you want a new striker to replace Giroud from the starting eleven, play alongside Giroud in the starting eleven, to be rotated with Giroud in the starting eleven or do you want Giroud to remain as our main striker next season with a new striker being Giroud’s deputy?

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180 Responses to Which striker to buy in TW and what to do with Giroud: replace, rotate or main man?

  1. bc says:

    Well for me it is more about wether wenger plays the formation he has reverted to since spurs 4312 or Goes back to 4231 or adopts something else. If u look at our main attacking 4 this season cazorla walcott podolski giroud they have around 60 goals with 7 matches still to play. Their deputies in the main have been chamberlain rosicky arshavin gervinho who have contributed around 14/15 goals. Well we know that one of those 8 are leaving this summer and possibly more rosicky? Gervinho? I believe that even without arshavins departure we have room for another attacking player so with it we need 2 if rosicky and gervinho move on perhaps 3 or 4? Joel campbell could be one? Also too ryo miyaichi but I cannot see the likes of afobe gnabry eisfeld or akpom making the step up just yet. To be totally honest if the 2 were campbell and ryo we would be very disappointed but if they were the 2 of 3 and we managed to land falcao I would be ecstatic. For me he is so different to what we have and I would blow most of the transfer kitty to get him. Sure the likes of lewandowski dzeko benzema higuain villa lopez are all exciting but also very similar to what we already have. For me if it isn’t falcao I would go for a proven epl striker again something different so for me it would be suarez or michu. Or try and take lukaku from chelsea hernandez from united or cisse from newcastle.

  2. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi AFC 🙂

    Congratulations with writing your fifth post for BK. A real fun post and I am sure we’ll get a huge range of responses to your questions in the next 24 hours. 🙂

    You are spot re your three categories of fans’ views on Giroud.

    I would also like a more deadly/efficient striker at Arsenal but the only risk I can see is that we would gradually become one-dimensional again. I love it that our goals now come from everywhere and that the opposition cannot focus on one particular player to keep the goals out. Giroud, Theo, Pod, Cazorla, and now also Gervinho score and assist when they want it seems and that is so much better than having to rely on the grey-haired, boy inside his body, mis-firing, self-loving traitor aka vanJ.

    So I don’t want us to get a top top striker at a top rate. I would like us to get Jovetic to add more attacking variety, as he can play anywhere and be fantastic. I also would like the Pod start up-front more and give Theo a proper chance in a 4-4-2 formation. Giroud can play a key role next season; sometimes starting a game, sometimes being our super-sub.

  3. Fred says:

    I know there will be a lot of people crying out for the likes of Dzeko, Higuian, Benzema etc… But realistically we cannot afford their wages.

    Personally I think we are in need of two strikers to add strength in depth. I also still think that Giroud is a good player and that we should use his size to hold up the ball for a smaller, faster and more clinical striker. Which is why I propose that we sign Burak Yilmaz from Galatasaray for around 15m as he wants to come to the Premier League and his wages will be more than affordable, and if QPR go down (which is looking ever more likely as the season progresses) then we sign Remy for 6m. Although if QPR by some divine intervention manage to stay up then I think we should have a look at Bony for around 10m. The main reason I am not mentioning Jovetic is because he would cost us more and I think that we need to spread the money out equally accross the midfield and defence as well, with the signings of one of the Benders, Richards and Cesar in addition to our need for a striker.

  4. adkdukes says:

    Giroud’s performance so far has divided opinion. Considering the fact that we have 3 strikers who had no contribution to the team this season and certainly going to leave, therefore creating space in the squad, bringing in two quality addition will be a good bet. Arsenal could do with one of Jovetic/Lewandowski and one of Remi/Yilmaz. These are strikers that could easily play any role in the front three and despite either any of the 1st two commanding a sizable transfer fee, we could well be able to pick one of them and another one from from the second category if our ambition will go beyond just making the top for.

  5. AFC says:

    Bc, thanks for commenting. 🙂

    Falcao will never come to Arsenal. Remember we only have 70 million (which includes wages) to spend in the summer. If we offer Falcao high wages which he will probably want and pay near to 50 million for him our 70 million is as good as gone.

    I perosnally do not think we should spend most of our money on one players. That would be putting all of your eggs in one basket and taking a gamble. This gamble might not even pay off. Falcao would need time to adapt the Premier League, he could just be a flop or could pick up a injury which would rule him out for a big chunk of the season which would put us where we are this season. Too much of a risk to spend most of the money on one player.

    I too was suggesting Suarez. Proven in the PL, good finisher who scores plenty of goals and has amazing dribbling ability. However he is a racist scumbag who likes to dive and Wenger does not want this type of player at Arsenal.

  6. glic says:

    Thanks AFC, you are another great addition to this fabulous site !.

    I like Ollie, but see him as a team /squad/plan B player, who can play in certain games and mix in with different formations in other games. My preference is an Aguero/Suarez type player, but like Man City, they have Aguero and Dzeko and can play either or both. Imo he stays as part of a strong depth squad.
    If it were down to me and my opinion can change like the weather, but at this moment in time, my priority would be…… get Gotze and a DM beast and keep what we have up front, Gotze is the DB10 player we have been crying out for imo, but would not say no to a ” Aguero/Suarez ” aswell !.
    It`s hard for me to name such players as I dont watch much other teams/games etc` as say HH does to know many of these type players !.

  7. Fred says:

    In which case I propose that our line up next season could look like:

    ………………………Yilmaz/Walcott (and Remy if QPR go down)
    …………………………………………….Giroud/Podolski (and Bony if we fail to get Remy)

  8. AFC says:

    TA, thanks for allowing me to write my 5th post for this wonderful site. Hopefully very soon you will be congratulating me on writing my 10th post for this wonderful site. 🙂

    TA, as you know I value your opinion highly and I totally agree with what you are saying.
    I do not want us to sign huge players. All I want is a ST/CF and DM of Santi’s quality with an experienced GK on a free if possible and maybe another defender.

    I do not want us to rely on one man next season. When your best players leave us fans really see how good the squad collectively is and for many years with the absence of our top players we have continued to perform at a decent level in the CL and play some good football. Next season we need to take it to the next level and win some trophies!

  9. Dylan says:

    Well I have a split opinion. And it falls on our formation. Should we stay with one main striker in our 4-3-3 formation I feel Giroud shouldn’t be our main starter. However if we switch to some variation of 2 strikers up top Giroud should start regularly alongside one of the two stikers I will name below.
    There are 2 strikers I’d very much like to see at Arsenal next summer. However I definitely don’t see Arsenal buying both. My first choice would be Jovetic. We’ve been linked with him 846294729472946296 (give or take a few trillion) times. He has stated before he is interested in Arsenal. And given his young age his wages shouldn’t be too high. Also with his young age he has plenty of time to develop. The reason he is my main choice is that I am a strong believer in playing 2 strikers with one slightly behind the other in a CF role and the other as a target man. With Giroud’s aerial ability he is a great target man and Jovetic is a very creative player who can also play CAM so I feel he could fit well in a CF role. He is quick, creative, versatile, young, full of potential, a good finisher, and more. He could cost as much as £30 million if rumours are to be believed but with wages on the lower end of the spectrum and all the things listed above, I think this is a price that is worth it. Also this formation would allow Podolski to play as a target up top (his position at Koln) and Santi as perhaps a CF. I don’t believe he has experience there but with his ability on long shots and his creativity I think he could be a good fit. He also already has a good relationship with Giroud. And with Santi playing in that role it would allow us to give more playing time to a new CAM that we hopefully buy this summer, as I feel we need one more.
    My second choice would be Higuain. Though I can’t pretend to know too much about him, if Real Madrid buy Falcao (which it is rumored is close to a done deal) that would let Higuain leave on the cheap. One stumbling point may be his wages. Striker-wise there’s not many more players I hope we bring in this summer. Besides maybe Aubameyang. But I don’t know much about him and don’t believe he is as good as Jovetic. I’d love Lewandowski or Reus but I just don’t see that as realistic. So first choice would be Jovetic. Especially if a new CAM is brought in like I believe there should be, alongside a goalie, defensive mid, and many more positions we need to strengthen.

  10. AFC says:

    Fred, thanks for commenting andyou seem to read me like a book. 🙂

    I too really feel we need to strikers. One cheap quality striker, which would be a steal in my eyes Remy and a more expensive rounded striker.

    But first we need to get a CF/ST of Santi’s price and quality, an experienced GK on a free, maybe a defender. And thne we can think of adding either a cheap but quality box to box midfielder or a cheap striker like Remy.

    We need 4/5 players in my opinion.

  11. TotalArsenal says:

    AFC 🙂

    You have been to BK, what Monreal has been to Arsenal: a breath of fresh air and a solid ‘signing’! Really lucky to have you on this site as you bring a lot of additional energy and fun! 🙂

    I just checked our goals total in a all competitions and compared it with the Mancs, who as we know have a very large and expensive strike-force:
    Arsenal: 92 goals
    Mancs: 93 goals

    We have five players who scored more than five goals, the Mancs just three. We have four players who scored more than ten goals, the Mancs only three.

    And we are still going through a transition: this team has a lot more goals to come, I reckon 🙂

  12. AFC says:

    Dylan, thanks for commenting. 🙂

    First of all we will never get Higuain. Wages could be a problem and he is Real’ s first choice striker. I heard if they get Falcao it would be Benzema making way not Higuain.

    Jovetic would be a very good option and I am sceptical about his transfer fee but if his wage demands are lower than other striker who we want that would make up for the high transfer fee.

    With regards to Santi. He kind of already plays as a CF. When deployed on the wing he is played in a free role. This means he can roam whereever he chooses and he often takes up the CF positon during our matches.

  13. AFC says:

    TA, and that is what koind of baffled me when they brought RVP. You cannot have to top strikers playing together. This is because the team has to be based on either Rooney or Van Persie. The team cannot revolve around both. As a result sure Van Persie has scored a lot of their goals. But I feel if he was not there Rooney would have been in the position to score the same goals. Tell me if you do not understand what I am trying to say TA.

  14. Fred says:

    I could not agree with you more AFC. I personally think Burak Yilmaz would be a steal, if you look at his record in the Turkish League he is only just under a goal a game (I think its 0.75 goals/game he’s scored in the Turkish League throughout his entire career), whilst until Galatasaray got knocked out last night he was the joint top scorer in the Champions League – with 8 goals. So he’s shown he can do it at the top level against top teams this season. What I really don’t want to see is Wenger leaving it late again, in my opinion we are best off making all of our deals before pre-season to allow the team to gel.

    Going back to Yilmaz, although he may need to settle in to the EPL he is still a clinical finisher and with the likes of Arteta, Wilshere, Santi, Rosicky and hopefully Lars Bender providing him with opportunites I would be surprised if he didn’t replicate his stats with Arsenal.

  15. AFC says:

    * kind of

  16. AFC says:

    Fred, do you not think Yilmaz is a bit too old to be taking a chance on?

    Do you think he would be a good long term investement?

  17. Joywedsjeff says:

    Whenever i watch Giroud this season he seems to me that he needs a Suarez like player to play behind him and feed off him. The closest to Suarez is obviously Jovetic and would be a great addition. Seeing him along with Carzola and Wishere backed up by Rosicky patrolling that midfield and a maurading Theo Walcott would be too much a combination for any pack the bus Epl teams.

  18. glic says:

    I understand you AFC.

    Did I mention I change my mind like the weather !. I thought previously that RVP had won Manu the title on his own, but I now think , Manu would have still won it without him, they have other players who would have scored the goals, whether it be Hernandez, Rooney, Welbeck or someone else they would have bought if we hadn`t sold. They have a tried and trusted formula. At the moment RVP plays forward and Rooney deeper !.

  19. AFC says:

    More options for striker, let me know what you think guys.


  20. AFC says:

    Glic, I just feel that Gotze’s transfer fee had inflated massively. So massively that if we buy him we will struggle to strengthen other areas in our squad.

  21. TotalArsenal says:

    I understand your point, AFC. I am trying to say that both systems work, but it seems that the Mancs are now suffering from their over-reliance on vanJ. Especially in the big games: if vanJ does not score the Mancs do not win their games, it seems….

  22. AFC says:

    * has

    Good to see you get my point about RVP, Glic. 🙂

  23. AFC says:

    TA, understood and glad you got what I was saying about the way that you cannot set up your team around two players and that if Van Persie was not there it is likely other players would have picked up these goals.

  24. AFC says:

    Joywedsjeff, thanks for commenting. 🙂

    Wenger next season may sometimes play Giroud with out new striker but I do not see Wenger changing our whole formation and system to accomodate for Giroud. Let me know what you think.

  25. AFC says:

    adkdukes, thanks for commenting. 🙂

    Another person who is considering Yilmaz. I too would like us to sign an a cheaper strker like Remy with a more all rounded expensive striker like Jovetic. The second striker should only be brought if we can get a CF/ST and DM of Santi’s price and quality with an experienced GK on a free and possibly another defender.

  26. AFC says:

    If any of you guys could give me your thoughts on the striker I have listed below, that would be great. 🙂

    Catch you guys in 30-60 mins. 🙂

  27. AFC says:

    Sorry for the mistake guys, if you could tell me your thoughts on the strikers below that would be great!


    Catch you guys in about 30-60 mins. 🙂

  28. Sebastian says:

    I think we should buy a new first choice striker and Giroud could be like Wiltord was, a quality forward to be used when called upon. Besides, the world of football has changed, you need a couple of strikers who have different qualities for different games. If we had Giroud, Walcott and Jovetic, then they can all offer something different depending on the opposition.

  29. Beegee says:

    I got a guy here by the name Alfred Finnbogason – he plays for SC Heerenveen (Dutch League) – Has Contract till say 2015 but What i feel particularly interested is his wide range goals he scored ( Agreed he is second best to Bony – 21 goals compared to his 29 ). Just watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jymbp17SG60 – and tell me if the guy is good enough for Arsenal – As per the Transfer Fee , Wages and Technique is concern – he ticks the boxes for me. ( But I`m not sure ) – What you all think ?

  30. Peter says:

    We definitely need a world class striker to challenge Giroud and to instill confidence, while Jovetic is a no brainier a number of match winners are available for hire, from lewandoski to Edin Dzeko, Higuain, Gomez, Sanchez, a defensive mid-fielder is priority, a classy Central defender will help us challenge for something next year, Eisfeld, Akpom, Belerini, Miguel and serge needs to go on loan

  31. AFC says:

    Sebastian, thanks for commenting.

    In my eyes I also think we need 3 strikers. If we brought another striker and one of Podolski or Walcott were converted to a striker I would be happy. Only problem would be that we would Santi wolud have to be moved permanently to the left/right wing to accomodate for Podolski or Walcott moving up front,

  32. Bond James says:

    Thanks AFC,

    considering we have the money to spend, and we must be smart (i w

    i reckon we need 1 world class striker and another decent one…

    game changer of a striker = Hernandez (man utd), Lewandowski, Jovetic , Tevez (yep, yep) (15-25 million )

    Striker on the Bench replacement for Bendtener/chamakh = Carlos Vela / Remy (not more than 4-6 million.

    net spend in the region of 20-30 million for 2 strikers and we’re sorted with the likes of Giroud/Walcott/Podolski already in the team.

    it makes our squad very strong and ensures serious competition in the team fighting for trophies year in year out, provided we manage to keep hold of our first 15 players minus the deadwood so to speak.

  33. TotalArsenal says:

    AFC, I don’t know enough about the strikers you mentioned earlier to give a verdict. Why these particular players, if I may ask, Sir AFC? 🙂

  34. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, Soldado and NegrEdo 😉 are two quality strikers. Neither one of them will overwhelm you with their play or their statistics but are both strong aerially, technical, fluid, relatively pacey and quality finishers. As expected from players developed and exposed to La Liga, their ball control, link-up play and vision are definitely above average and they would seamlessly transition into the Arsenal side, much like Arteta, Santi and Monreal have.

    I actually mentioned both of them as potential names we could look at in the striking department last year, but with OG already in the line-up, buying either one would signal our intent to replace him more than to complement him. I say this because both are better strikers than Giroud in every way possible and play similar games to him (albeit obviously better).

  35. AFC says:

    Peter, thanks for commenting. 🙂

    There could be a problem with the wage demands of Dzeko and Higuain. Also because we are a rival to Man City there would want us to pay over the odds to get him. From my understanding Higuain is that he is not for sale. He is Real’s first choice striker and if they get another striker in the summer it will be Banzema making way. I do not think Sanchez will come to Arsenal especially if he wins the CL with Bayern. Sanchez too might not want to join because he is currently at a better club.

    Jovetic is a good option though and possibly some of the other strikers I have mentioned.

  36. AFC says:

    TA, HH has just said Negrado and Saldado would be very similar to Giroud so they are out.

    Doumbia plays in Russia for CSKA and is quite strong and physical player.

    Welliton I believe is from Brazil and is extremely fast and has good finishing.

    Emenike (I do not know anything about), Welliton and Doumbia are names that have been given to me by a friend. Hopefully alexgunners being from Brazil could shed some light on Welliton. I have very limited knowledge on these players. All I know is that they are all between the age of 24-27.

  37. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, thank you for writing another fine post! You’re starting to churn out quality articles as quickly as TA! You forgot to mention the fourth group that believe buying Giroud has been a colossal mistake and that he has no place in the team at all though!

    I’d like the echo the thoughts of some of the other posters that have already commented. Depending on what formation we play next year, will determine OG’s fate. If we play in the 4-3-3 or 4-2-1-3 or 4-1-2-3, then OG has no place in the starting line-up. He is too god damn slow, misplaces too many passes, poor at controlling the ball, poor at running with the ball, poor at finishing and poor at playing his back to goal to be relied upon as a main striker leading the line in those formations. All three of those formations require quicker players who are technically sound to drop back and join the link up, before accelerating up field finishing off our build up play.

    However, OG becomes very useful if we move into a set-up with two strikers up top or a formation where one players plays close to him, so as to not leave him so isolated up front (that’s the kind way of saying it, but in reality it’s to not expose his lack of pace, skill, finishing ability etc.).

    With that said, I’d like to see AW buy a striker like Jovetic this summer. If he’s going to spend big on any position, it has to be ST and DM since we are currently the most shallow at these positions. I recommend Jovetic because his style of play complements OG and he’s capable enough to lead the line on his own. His finishing could stand to improve, but again he hasn’t been receiving the delivery from players like Santi and Jack either. Jovetic’s ability to carry the ball up field and dummy players himself, drop back and join in the link-up play, accelerate to rejoin the build up and movement around the opposition’s box are all outstanding.

    Thus, I would like to see OG used as a super sub, coming on late in games to give a different dimension to our attack. It would allow him to sneak into the game and catch defenses off guard. By this I mean, it’s easier for a team to defend against OG when he’s the only striker in the starting line-up since he’s predictable and in order for him to get goals, he needs great delivery from the wings or off of set pieces. Defenses have less time to adjust when a sub is brought on and I feel as though OG would thrive being more hidden and making his intelligent runs around the box off the play of a player like Jovetic. Also, we all know that more set pieces are given near the end of a game and we could really capitalize with a fresh OG coming on as a sub.

  38. AFC says:

    BJ, thanks for commenting. 🙂

    I your share my view of needing two strikers. However the cheaper striker should only come when we have brought other players. First we need a DM and CF/ST of Santi’s price and quality. Then we need an experienced old GK on a free. With another possible defender and then we can think of adding a cheap striker like Remy or even a box to box midfielder.

  39. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, when I say similar I mean they are similar strikers but miles better in pace and technical ability :). If we had the option to buy one of them over OG, I would have done that in a heartbeat. However, as it stands now, I’d keep OG since I like him as a super sub and I really admire his work rate and passion for the club.

  40. TotalArsenal says:

    Okay HH, I understand where you are coming from.

    I reckon if we were to sign a new central striker, we might get somebody 30+ and very experienced: like Huntelaar or David Villa (assuming Jovetic will join us as an attacker who can play in various positions).

    I also believe Campbell will finally join the troops this summer.

  41. AFC says:

    HH, always good to hear from you. 🙂

    I did not add that fourth group because I did not want to personally attack Giroud. He is now an Arsenal player and is there to stay. We can no longer talk about us never wanting him.

    Everthing you have said is spot on but I think we need two strikers. Let me break down to you who AW should buy.

    Phase one- buy a DM and CF/ST of Santi’s price and quality.

    Phase two- buy an experienced GK. This can either be a Cesar or an wise head signed on a free.

    Phase three- another RB who can be rotated with Jenks with Sagna moving to CB.

    If there is any money left, Phase four- a cheaper striker I.e Remy or a cheap box to box midfielder as Diaby is out for such a long time and we do not really have a box to box midfielder.

  42. TotalArsenal says:

    Evening HH 🙂

    As I have said to you before a few times, you are far too harsh in your judgement on Giroud. In his first season, he has scored as many goals as Rooney and Hernandez, and he has been instrumental – through his assists and hard work in the box/ability to create space – in the team netting 92 goals in all competitions already.

    Like you, I don’t rate Giroud’s technical ability very highly, but he is still a key player in our team this season. And I reckon he will continue to be a regular starter next season…

  43. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, I’m in agreement that we need more depth up front, however transitioning so many new players into the squad will only lead to disaster. Chemistry on and off the pitch will be disrupted and there will be plenty of unhappiness when you consider AW’s rotation policy.

    Good of you to add that fourth category, I was simply stating that it does exist and you’ll surely come across some comments that show it soon 😉

  44. AFC says:

    HH, do you know anything about these strikers?


  45. Highbury Harmony says:

    TA, you and many others keep talking about the number of goals he has scored and how that somehow makes him a quality player for our starting squad. However, I rate the striker’s effectiveness over the entire game and their consistency match to match. OG does plenty of nothing for us on most days and just runs around the pitch like a chicken with his head cut off. Add in the fact that he misses at prime opportunities frequently and his decision making at crucial times in the game is horrible, that you can see why I don’t rate him very highly.

    If OG is our starting striker again next season, I will personally stop being a fan of this club until there is change otherwise. I don’t mind him as a sub at all but I absolutely despise him as a starter. To me, he represents the club’s current failure in terms of the acceptance of mediocrity.

  46. AFC says:

    HH, I think 5 players is ok. Remember that the GK and the fifth possible player will only be squad players.

    Last season Man U brought a in 3 players and they were in a better position than us.

    5 players will be ok considering around 10 will be leaving.

  47. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, unfortunately I do not watch enough of the RPL or the Brazilian league to give you an accurate scouting report of them. I would not want to mislead you in any way, but I really believe we should be looking at more capable and proven strikers if we have the cash to spend! I’m not saying that none of those three will come good, but that it may take them longer to adapt to the league and fit into the Arsenal football philosophy.

  48. AFC says:

    TA, how many of Giroud’s goals been important goals?

    I would rather have a striker who scored 5 match winning goals than 20-30 goals that do not mean much.

  49. AFC says:

    HH, maybe they could have been a cheaper second striker which we brought.

  50. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, there will not be 10 leaving. You have to realize that a lot of players out on-loan have already had their squad spots replaced. Also, Manure brought in 4 players last summer and only 1 is an every day starter – big difference. Kagawa, Buttner and Powell have played bit part roles for the club, especially the latter two. SAF is not quite sure where Kagawa fits into their starting line-up and he seemingly gets relegated to the bench when Rooney starts with RVP, since Rooney acts as a SS/AM in their set-up.

  51. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, completely agreed. Although I respect the saying that any goal is a good goal, it’s the fact that he does bloody nothing for 85 mins of the matches that he does score too. He “works hard” by pressuring defenders and the GK or to get into position, but what does that really mean? Should the starting striker at a top club be one that works hard, fails to score consistently or at opportune times or that clearly lacks the technical quality to play on his own up front?

    He would benefit from a SS for sure, but again most top quality SS would be able to produce on their own anyway, which more or less renders OG still ineffective in the starting line-up. He’s a quality squad player to me and always will be, no matter what his output is.

  52. TotalArsenal says:

    Stop being a fan of this club? Oh dear, HH, that does not sound like you. 😕

    I really hate the term of phrase ‘acceptance of mediocrity’ linked to our Arsenal as well. It just shows there are areas where you and I simply don’t see eye to eye on. 😕

  53. Bond James says:

    as much as i admire Giroud for trying and working his socks off (wasting his energy, sulking and posing)

    i am inclined to say that Giroud is in the same category as Berbatov – often goes missing in big games but with bervatov least he scores you decisive goals with his clinical finishes,every now and again.

    TA, Joel C won’t be coming to arsenal this summer, he’s going to stay in spain for another year (and right fully so), we don’t need him as yet – Gnabry is the one who we should really be looking at unless if we sell Poldi then Joel campbell has a strong case to be included .

  54. AFC says:

    HH, I still think we can buy 4/5 players.

    Would you be happy if we signed 4 players. The DM and CF/ST first team players and the experienced GK and defender squad rotation players?

  55. Admir says:

    Thank you, AFC, for summing up whole Giroud dilemma. 🙂

    I wrote a text about Olivier a month ago for allarsenal.com in which I compared him with Kanu. I’ll quote myself:

    “However, despite his qualities that included a likeable personality, Kanu was never able to transform into the world-class striker that can clear the path to the trophies with a lot of goals. That transformation happened to his team-mate Thierry Henry and Kanu was condemned to be the substitutes bench. The highly decorated striker produced goals for two titles in the Premiership and three victories in the FA Cup.

    It is hard to add more about the current likeable striker Olivier Giroud than mjw did in his article two days ago. He is excellent in the air, his ability to hold the ball is decent as well as his ability to link-up with team-mates, he can shoot from every position but his lack of pace combined with his missed sitters – especially in big matches – have haunted us ever since he joined Arsenal. Two points missed against Sunderland, the decision to take the shot from an awkward position against Stoke instead of passing the ball to Ramsey on the counter-attack, missed chances against Liverpool when we were chasing victory, sitters that could (and probably would) change the final outcomes in away matches against the Chavs and the Spuds… I am afraid those misses will be noticed at the end of the season. The Frenchman is a very good striker and I am happy that we have him in our squad but – just like Kanu – he needs someone like Henry or Van Persie alongside him.”

    I was watching Borussia and Malaga on Tuesday night and I would go for Lewandowski. His link-up with team-mates was wonderful and his intelligence in front of opponents’ goal eye-catching.

    His contract is going to end in summer 2014 and Borussia are in similar position like we were last summer with Van Judas. They have to cash him in this summer or to lose him for free next year. His contract situation suggests that he could be available for less than 30 million euros while his wage demands remain unknown.
    Now, FAnchester United are apparently on his tail as well as Bayern Muenchen but I don’t know whether those teams need Lewandowski in the first place. United will have Van Judas, Rooney, Welbeck, Hernandez and, unfortunately, Zaha while Bayern have Gomez, Mandžukić and Pizarro rotating for only one place in attack.

  56. TotalArsenal says:


    It is his first season and he netted as many as Shrek and Hernandez and seven less than Van J in all competitions. He also has a decent number of assists and his tireless work in the box creates space for others.

    What you and HH are forgetting is that footbal is a team game and Giroud has value in the wider aspects of our attacking game.

  57. AFC says:

    BJ, Berbatov is miles better than Giroud!

  58. Highbury Harmony says:

    TA, there will always be aspects of Arsenal that we do not see eye to eye on ;). To me, having OG as our main striker leading the line next year will be a signal that we are comfortable with the perpetual cycle of finishing top 4 and nothing more. We’re finally in a position to spend and fill positions of need with top quality players. To be idle and buy average to above average players would be a step backwards, considering how much hinges on having some real success after 8 years of nothing.

    It’s my built up expectations that may be misguided since I would be massively disappointed if we did not purchase the proper level of quality this summer. It would seriously make me reconsider being a fan of Arsenal if we continue to toil in mediocrity; it all starts with buying the right players and we have to capitalize on the sound situation we are finally now in.

  59. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, agreed Berbatov is class and an absolute joy to watch, miles better than Giroud. He’s been much more of a presence at Fulham this year than he was at Manure. He’s frequently involved in their attack and understands now that he is the key to their offense. This has really brought the best qualities out of him and his touch, dribbling and vision have been outstanding.

    And yes AFC, I would agree that 2 starters, an experienced back up and some squad players would be good additions. Transitioning more than 2 starters would probably be too hectic and problematic (unless they were all from the same team 🙂 ).

  60. AFC says:

    TA, I do not hate Giroud, I just think that we need a better striker for our first choice. He is a perfect squad player.

  61. Highbury Harmony says:

    Giroud has no value in our offense most of time, except for the fact that he is the anchor weighing us down. As VCC noted, it’s pretty clear that the team is avoiding playing balls to him and have lost confidence in him since he often proves them right by not capitalizing on his chances. Working hard rarely, if ever, leads to opportunities for him or others. If you watch closely, defenders tend to leave him open unless it’s a set piece, since they know they have the pace to cover him if the ball is played to him or that he’ll just miss anyway.

    He has value as a squad player though. That’s where his work rate, aerial ability and good movement could be put to good use.

  62. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, I don’t hate Giroud better I also think we need a better striker to lead the line. He’s the perfect squad player to have as I have noted above.

  63. Highbury Harmony says:

    don’t hate Giroud either, but I*

  64. AFC says:

    Admir, good to hear from a fellow writer on this site. 🙂

    We definitely need a new striker as I feel Giroud is a good squad player but a pretty average first team striker.

    Wen need a DM and CF/ST of santi’s price and quality, an experienced GK on a free if possible and another defender.

  65. Fred says:

    AFC – I see what you mean Yilmaz is a little older than Wengers usual signing at 27, but I don’t really see the risk as that huge, he has a good conversion rate throughout his career and has more or less been constantly hitting 20+ goals per season in his league with players around him that are not as good as providing assists for him as the players we have, remember he has only been at Galatasaray for 1 season and this is the first time he has had average-good players providing him with assists. In my opinion we have much better playmakers at arsenal, so I would be surprised if he didn’t at least hit the 25 goals he has scored so far this season in the Turkish League for us next season. I personally think he could solve our problems up front if GIroud acted as more of a pivort to assist Yilmaz as he is a clinical finisher. In my eyes he is a cheap mans falcao, not quite as good as falcao but could still do the job for us and would cost a lot less than falcao both interms of fee and wages.

    I agree it is unlikely that Wenger would sign a player who is 27 but I think he should. Whilst Jovetic would also be a good signing for arsenal I still feel as if we are missing a clinical finisher. Benteke in my opinion is kind of similar to Giroud so I see it as one or the other, Remy is a good player and would add to our strength in depth but should not be a regular first team player in my opinion, if we don’t go for Yilmaz I cannot see us going for Huntelaar, one because Huntelaar is older, two he would cost more in wages and transfer fee and three he has a habit of not really scoring when you really need the goals. The Fernando Torres of old would have been a perfect signing although he doesn’t seem to be the same player he once was. El Shaarawy could be a good player for us he has the right attributes to succeed although his goals:game ratio is significantly lower than Yilmaz’s but he his 7 years younger so still has room to develop.

    This leads me to believe that someone in the shape of Marco Reus playing off Giroud could be a good signing if people doubt Yilmaz due to his age. Reus is a German international, pretty fast as well, with a goal:game ratio of around one goal every other game and at the age of 23 he still has room for improvement. Reus could probably be bought at around the 20m mark I would say (probably a little higher) but could prove to be a good long term signing.

    Although as TA has mentioned there is a possibility of Joel Campbell joining the first team squad soon so an older striker may be preferred and in my opinion Yilmaz would be a better option than both David Villa and Huntelaar. My primary reason is that he has a couple of years younger than both of them so we would get more out of him, he would cost less than both of them in terms of fee and wages, he is more reliable than Huntelaar and is not injury prone like David Villa.

  66. AFC says:

    HH, would you stretch to a 5th player who would also be a squad player?

    So 2 first team players and 3 squad players. The 3rd squad player would be either a cheaper striker or a box to box midfielder as we do not have one because Daiby is now injured and Wenger is reluctant to play Jack as a box to box midfielder.

  67. Highbury Harmony says:

    Admir @ 22:56, excellent comment on OG as it’s exactly how I feel about him, just more eloquent and nicely put :). I would add to your point about OG that he also misplaces a lot of passes, has poor control of the ball when it’s at his feet and despite being good at link-up play at times, he lacks the pace to rejoin the attack if he drops further back. He also can’t play a ball with his right foot in the slightest as RA pointed out, and seemingly falls over when he tries hahaha!

  68. Bond James says:


    i beg to differ, no he isn’t “miles ” better than Giroud.

    sure, Berbatove poses more of an attacking threat (yep, strikers are meant to do that) but our own Giroud poses defensive threats and is not half bad at clearing corners from our own half and sometimes he scores using his head too.

    both are at par when it comes to sulking on the pitch though.

    and the stats indicate Giroud being much much better than Berbatov compared to his first season, oh and G is also much better than RVP compared to his first season in England.

  69. Highbury Harmony says:

    Fred, Reus would likely cost in the range of 25-30 mil, but would be a super top quality signing if we were able to acquire his services. He is definitely a player who could play well off of OG since his pace, technical ability and finishing would compensate for all of OG’s weaknesses and vice versa. However, Reus is also capable of leading the line on his own too, which is an added bonus.

  70. AFC says:

    Fred, I do not really know much on Yilmaz. Could be a good option but would he be able to male the transistion to such a demanding league compared to the Turkish League. I really do not want to see Villa and Huntelaar though.

  71. Highbury Harmony says:

    BJ, RVP was 21 when he made his debut for Arsenal…much different than OG who is 26. Not to mention RVP was a bargain purchase who had plenty of quality but lacked the mental strength or discipline to succeed. So of course he was less successful in his first season, since he was also a bit-part player who was forced out wide too.

  72. AFC says:

    * make
    * transition

    BJ, Berbatov plays for a worse team and is much older so he is in entering a decline. He still is better than Giroud and compare the Berbatov of Giroud’s age to Giroud’s and Berbatov is Messi.

  73. Bond James says:

    by the way, no Berbatov can never be better than our own Giroud (how can an ex spud player be anywhere near any of our players) even Bentnder’s miles better than berbatov;)
    (it’s a shame why wenger or his scouts didn’t make a move for him, could have been clever and done RVP for 24 mills and Berbatov), if only wenger was as smart as we all think he is.

    in the end, i’m sure Wenger will surprise us with all of his summer signings and i suspect Reus is going to be one of them.


  74. Bond James says:

    *RvP = 24 mills plus berbatov in part exchange*

    that would have been perfecto.

  75. Highbury Harmony says:

    What gets lost in the debate of Giroud is that he’s already 26, turning 27 this year. If he were 20, I would be much higher on his ability to produce for us in his first season at the club, but most players reach their peak at 25-27. Can he still improve upon his output this season? Of course, I don’t doubt that. Can he magically gain pace or technical ability? No, he never had it in abundance to begin with. He’s a different animal to RVP, Tevez, Balotelli etc. who all had the ability but lacked the focus and mental strength to overcome their obstacles. They are all coming good now and just needed more time to develop since they were incredibly young when they broke onto the scene.

    Giroud is definitely a late bloomer since he was only playing in Ligue 2 three years ago, but I don’t see a huge amount of potential to come. As I said above, he does have the potential to be a solid starter for us, capable of scoring 10-15 goals a season, but not the type of striker who will lead your team to silverware.

  76. AFC says:

    BJ, when Wenger was asked about Berbatov he said he did not know he was available.

    Now fans like me and yourself know that is Wenger’s way of saying he did not want Berbatov. Course he knew about him!

    Wenger is an experienced manager and is a lot smarter than we will ever be so there is probably good reason why he chose not to sign Berbatov.

  77. Highbury Harmony says:

    BJ, if we sign Reus this summer, I will bust a nut in my pants and be overcome with joy. As you may well know by now, I’m also a fairly avid Dortmund supporter. If any team is to poach their best players, it better be my Arsenal!

  78. Fred says:

    AFC-True the EPL is a lot more demanding than the Turkish league, to be honest one of my friends pointed him out to me (he is a Galatasaray fan) I doubted his credentials but having seen him in the Champions League he seems to be able to trouble even the best of teams, including Real Madrid, where he was booked for diving despite Ramos admitting after the game it was a Penalty. That combined with his stats has made me think he would be a good signing for Arsenal. Although as HH has pointed out a Reus-Giroud Partnership could prove to be devestating as they compliment each other well and both are capeable, to different degrees, of playing as a single striker which would have its tactical benefits.

    HH-I completely agree with you Reus would send a real signal of intent to our opposition, and that combined with his technical ability could see us challenge for trophies next season. If we bought him and Sven Bender (I know I have been a previous advocate of Lars) they could both immediately slot into our first team and as they both play for the same team they should be able to link up well together. Both of whom would cost a combined total of around 45-50m probably if Reus wold cost 25-30m. That combined with the signing of Remy as a Squad player and Ceaser puts us at a cost of 61m, and would definately improve our squad.

  79. AFC says:

    HH, well said. 🙂

  80. AFC says:

    HH, your comment at 23:22, well said. 🙂

  81. Bond James says:


    arsenal’s people have been in germany plenty of times in the last few months, in Jan alone there were plenty of visits, one including wenger as well, so i won’t be surprised if we get at least 2 siginings done from germany – which ones ? it remains to be seen and is certainly worth the wait.

    Kagawa was certainly dortmund’s oil in the engine last season and he ended up north for a fairly reasonable prince, no reason why we can’t get Reus for 20 mills or there abouts.


    i don’t buy this whole wenger being really smart and canny hoopla, if he was then we would be signing much better players than he has done and we would have certainly won a trophy or 2 along the way as well, for me wenger not signing a decent keeper in the last 5 years speaks volumes, year in year out he has made the same mistakes – yep, i also don’t buy the notion that wenger hasn’t spent that much money on buying players……

    everyone knew we would be losing Cesc fab since 2009 onwards yet no replacements were lined up and in the end he had panic buys – fortunately one of them was arteta otherwise most of his signings were flops or average for the money and wages they were on.

    we have got weaker in terms of the money he has been spending on the squad yet spuds have been getting stronger- oh and spuds also have a history of selling their best players.

    how we manage to lose out on hugo L, considering wenger’s strong connections in france is one that never fails to baffle me.

  82. Highbury Harmony says:

    Fred, salaries, salaries, salaries my friend :)! If we bought two top, top players like Reus and S.Bender, there would be no money left over after salaries were taken into consideration to sign anyone else (aside from maybe a GK).

    Based on player values from several sites, in addition to rumoured club valuations of each player, I’d predict that the transfer fees for Reus and S.Bender would be approximately £45-55 mil before salaries. Their combined salaries would be between £8-10 mil/year.

    Thus, that would leave us with approximately £5-17 mil left over for player transfers (likely closer to the lower end since BD would be selling us two of their best players). Cesar would command a fee of £3-5 mil and his wages would be in the neighbourhood of £3mil/year, which means we could definitely afford his services or any relatively inexpensive experienced GK.

  83. Highbury Harmony says:

    BJ, the difference was that they bought Reus for £15 mil themselves last off-season and would only sell him at a considerable premium, considering that they will be losing Lewandowski and maybe even Hummels and/or Gotze.

    We’re talking about a mass exodus of players from BD if they were to sell Reus as well, which is why I don’t think it’s too likely that he’ll be leaving. If Reus were on the open market, there are plenty of teams that we’d have to outbid and the fee would likely rise to my predicted £25-30 mil before wages are taken into account.

  84. AFC says:

    BJ, you do not know what goes on behind closed doors at Arsenal. The level of players we have brought have increased because we have nearly paid off our debts.

    Santi, Podolski, Monreal all good signings.

    Your trophy point does not really make sense. We have had to sell all of our best players,

  85. AFC says:

    HH, what do you think about BJ the point on Wenger. I think he is wrong.

  86. Bond James says:


    re player fees/wages and our transfer kitty supposedly at 70 million,

    it helps when you do a massive clear out and get rid of players earning as high as 80 k per week (arshavin) sq (50 – 55 k ) chamakh (60 k) and a few more…. plus we sell johan dj for 5 mills , bendtner for 2/3 mills and so on, that add to our bank.

    i don’t think affording wages is going to be a problem as such, dispose 7 and get in 3-4 decent ones – we’re sorted.

  87. rufus says:

    You’d have to be a right mug not to bring home the bacon in todays modern game. All you need is a bundle of money to go and poach the best players from other teams. All this talk of strategies, systems, formations count for nothing. Name me any team in Premier League history who has won it on a tight manageable budget. No one except Arsenal and that was the exception rather than the rule. On all other occasions the Title has been lifted by the richest club of the day. Football systems played out in the Premier League are an irrelevance if you can’t back it up with top quality players. Money has relegated the Coaches role to picking up the bibs after a training session. Arsenal have a history, i say it’s time to unleash Usmanov to bring back the glory days.

  88. Bond James says:

    HH, good point re- mass exodus at dortmund hence would make more sense for Reus to leave and ply his trade ? (another way of looking at it ? yep, i agree with your point of dortmund wanting more for him).


    don’t look at wenger’s last 3 signings, i gave you the last 5 years time frame – we have sold our best players and it’s not like we haven’t spent any money on new signings, on the contrary we have spent a decent amount on new signings.

    not sure why it doesn’t make sense to you, a better goal keeper and you would certainly have all but won the carling cup 2011 and who knows what else from 2008 onwards.

  89. Highbury Harmony says:

    BJ, there’s no guarantee that we can sell Djourou, Bendtner, Mannone, Park or Chamakh this off-season. Writing off Arshavin, Fabianski and Squillaci’s salaries are not that significant since AW does not operate in the way you are suggesting. Their salaries coming off the books have already likely be taken into account in AW’s most recent signings. In that I mean, he was likely able to pay their desired salaries since he knew we’d be getting some relief this coming summer.

    Also, you haven’t considered that we’ll likely be promoting some youngsters and will need to remunerate them properly. The majority of the money the club makes from player sales and CL is often not reinvested back into the club.

  90. Highbury Harmony says:

    Not fully reinvested back into the club in player transfers at least. There are a multitude of expenses and bonuses that need to be paid out as well. Such is life when running a football club!

  91. AFC says:

    Rufus, you are spot on. But money is 80%. The other 20% is tactics and formations. You are right you need money and quality players to win the PL. However all this money will not come at once. Si if tactics and formations can win us a FA Cup/ League Cup this will lead to a chain reaction which will mean that we can get the players and keep building until we get enough quality players to win the PL.

  92. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, neither yourself or BJ are wrong my friend. It’s simply a matter of differing viewpoints coming head to head. Neither side can be definitively “right” per se as it’s all conjecture and speculation as to what AW did and didn’t do. Only AW and those within the Arsenal hierarchy know the answer we are all seeking.

  93. Highbury Harmony says:

    BJ, the issue isn’t that we haven’t been spending on buying players, but that we have not been replacing a like for a like, similar to what Dortmund has been doing. Whether this be the fault of AW or the BoD/Kroenke, we will never know until someone inside of the organization speaks out on this matter.

  94. Bond James says:


    park already written off in the balance sheet – anything we get for him is a bonus

    Mannone is no Arshavin, he would be better off leaving.

    fabianski i would keep.

    i have taken all that into account, actually i have also taken into account not only the sponsorship money but also the tasty coming our way from the broadcasters for the 2013-14 season, that will be a nice healthy chunk to keep us going…

    call me an optimist but this is the last year of wenger’s contract and he would like to prove a point, he would want to finally silence his doubters, spend big and wisely as this time round, majority of the money will be at his disposal (ticket sales, sponsors and then tv sponsors pot) , here is to hoping we win the treble next year:D:

  95. AFC says:

    HH & BJ, that is what I was trying to say. Me or you guys cannot explain our failure over the last 6-8 years as we do not know what goes on behind closed doors. Hope you guys understand. 🙂

  96. Highbury Harmony says:

    BJ, again I am also hoping (the key word is hoping) that AW will make the most of his last year at the club (unless he gets extended). However, we all know AW is big on sustainability (the article I’m currently writing), so he will never act impulsively and purchase a player for one season that could ultimately handicap the club long-term.

    The sponsorship money will likely not be invested in player transfers either since it’s never been done in the past. In past years until last season, we’ve made more money in player sales than purchases, yet have qualified for CL in each of those years and have the sponsorship money etc. too. So where does it all go? The sponsorship funds are also contingent on us making CL again next year.

  97. Highbury Harmony says:

    until last summer*

  98. AFC says:

    BJ, you are right. I think we will see Wenger spend big. Next season is said to be the season that defines the second part of AW’s reign at Arsenal. Wenger also has to think about how to improve his CV for any future jobs but I am sure it does not need improving.

  99. Highbury Harmony says:

    To answer, my own question the majority of the profits have gone to pay off other expenses, whether it be employee salaries and bonuses, upgrading facilities, paying the stadium debt off etc.

  100. Bond James says:


    i understood where you’re coming from, there certainly was a lot going behind closed doors as you say or it appears but what we do know and agree is on that we need to be a major threat to be reckoned with next season not only in England but also in Europe, we have waited enough and if we keep our form of late going, i am going to get rather more optimistic provided wenger signs 3-4 players (which i’m sure he will).

    thanks for the quality discussion lads, time for me to go now – till next time – adios

  101. Highbury Harmony says:

    Exactly BJ, which is why I would be massively disappointed if we didn’t spend and saw OG as our main striker again next season. To me, that would be signalling that we are entirely satisfied with where we are right now: challenging for a top 4 place and nothing more.

  102. AFC says:

    HH, I’m off now. Catch you and everyone else tomorrow. 🙂

  103. Gbangu says:

    Lewdandoski. He can fit into all categories.

  104. Aussie Gunner says:

    Admir, i think we should give Giroud time to prove himself, yes he has been wasteful in front of goals this season, but it’s only his first season in EPL.
    I strongly beleive he will be a force to be reckoned with in the seasons to come, and always remeber how long it took for VAN PURSESTRING to start scoring regularly, that’s when he wasn’t injured.

  105. Highbury Harmony says:

    The difference is that RVP was 21, Giroud is 26 turning 27…also you could see the potential with RVP. Giroud doesn’t flash the same potential and really doesn’t get into too many scoring positions as it is. Every striker will miss opportunities, so in a way, Giroud’s are excusable too. It’s the fact that there are many games where he’s invisible and he’s only noticed because he’s clearing our end from danger, diving and flailing on the ground or running around the pitch like a chicken with his head cut off.

  106. Highbury Harmony says:

    with its*

  107. welshgooner says:

    Benteke, simples

  108. Bergkamp's Acolyte says:

    Reus, Shaaraway, Pato, Jovetic, Lewandowski.
    Expensive but do-able, depending who else is in the running. If the billionaires are spending their dirty money elsewhere, we may have a chance at a late deadline day bid for one of the above.

    Giroud is a great player to have in the squad; I’m a firm believer in ‘horse for courses’, and he has added a new dimension this year on occasion. Of course, we desperately need a very different player to offer something different, but I like the idea of having him available to call upon when appropriate.

  109. Highbury Harmony says:

    TA, perhaps I should explain what may seem like an irrational hate for Giroud.

    When we first bought him this summer, I was ecstatic as I had seen him play at Montpellier a couple times and saw him score some outstanding goals for them. Not only that, but he had just helped lead an overwhelming underdog win the Ligue 1 title that year. Suffice to say, I was very happy to have secured his services and liked the purchase so much that I tried to buy his jersey over the summer (squad numbers were unfortunately not released yet, so I didn’t want to buy the wrong number).

    Then, came the gloating to all my friends about how talented OG was and that his physique would let him dominate the league and together with RVP we had the strike force to finally challenge for the title.

    Well, van Judas then proceeded to stab us in the back, and I placed all my expectations on OG to hopefully lead Arsenal to the title and show van Judas that he made a mistake. In fact, early in the season when everyone was calling OG a bust, I vouched for him and preached patience. I claimed the Sunderland miss was just nerves and he missed the goal because he shot it with his left foot. The Stoke game was due to poor delivery from the squad and because we needed more time to gel. The Liverpool miss on the feed from Diaby was him trying too hard, and the free header when we were up 2-0 was just bad luck. Then, came the Chel$ea game. He missed another sitter to bring us back even and I had nothing.

    And so continued a string of disappointing performances, where he didn’t generate much offense, but he eventually scored against Coventry City in the COC and I thought to myself, finally he’s here!!! Now we’ll start to see the real OG!! But who came to our rescue? Well, that saviour was not #12, but #14. OG went on to score goals, albeit not important ones and I’ve walked away from matches incredibly underwhelmed by most of his performances this year, despite his goal tally. He’s missing scoring opportunities, but so does every striker. The issue for me is that he’s not young or flashing tons of potential, getting and/or creating 3-5 scoring opportunities a game, only to miss; he’s getting 1 or sometimes no scoring chances a game and I credit this to him simply not fitting into our philosophy or formation.

    As I said earlier, I still think he could improve his goal scoring output next year and will be a key piece to this team as a squad player. Together with a better, faster and more technical striker, we could become deadly.

    However to this day, I have become the laughing stock among my friends for suggesting that OG would help Arsenal to silverware (even though I claimed with RVP and him we would win something). I am constantly ridiculed at gatherings and my knowledge of football is disregarded because of my original expectations for OG hahaha!

  110. Admir says:

    HH, although we have a lot of mutual points regarding Giroud, I wouldn’t say that he is not getting into chances nor that he is not creating them. Against Aston Villa (away), he created three chances for his team-mates but lack of gun-powder was the reason we were held at goal-less draw. The biggest problem is the ratio of goals scored and chances missed. He was a bit unlucky sometimes as well – for instance, last week he was literally a few inches away from grabbing himself an assist and a goal in injury time. His tally in big matches is a problem – he missed a sitter in both matches against Chavs (at home in the end of the game, at SB in the very beginning), against Spuds away (at 0:0) and against United (our general crapness on that day shaded the fact we actually had a few decent chances to equalize thanks to Walcott’s creativity – Giroud’s low shot from tight angle could have changed our luck back then) and against Liverpool in both matches.

    We can discuss his shooting technique. I watched his goals from Montpellier and I noticed that he always takes penalties by placing the low shot in the right goalkeepers’ corner. When we played against Coventry, he missed a penalty. Guess how he took it. 😉 His first choice when he shoots from open game is to fire a low left-footed shot, usually a diagonal one. Lack of versatility in shooting?

    One huge exception from “Olivier Giroud shooting technique”-rule was that match against Brighton.

  111. babakrdaemi says:

    Its difficult when trying to be realistic.

    I would say:


  112. Red Arse says:

    Morning AFC, 🙂

    Another quality Post. 🙂

    Everything I could say has been discussed or suggested by someone over night.

    For what it is worth, I think we have not seen the best of OG yet and he is a definite ‘keep’ for the sheer guts and commitment he shows.
    What is also sometimes forgotten is that he bolsters our sometimes shaky defence by helping deal with aerial attacks, as at 6′ 4″ he towers over Kozzer and Vermaelen.

    Every team needs cover at CF, and we are no exception, except — we don’t really have cover there, do we?

    For example, Manyoo have bought Rip van Persie even though they already had Rooney and Welbeck available, dependent on formation/injury/opposition etc.

    So yes, we need additional cover, in addition to Giroud. Remy? Maybe. Jovetic? Maybe.
    Suddenly, I am full of uncertainty about which player would suit us best. Partly because I simply do not know enough about them, and I don’t know what formation AW will use next season.

    Anyway, well done, for highlighting a very interesting conundrum for Arsenal. 🙂

  113. Red Arse says:

    Morning TA, 🙂

    I hope you are enjoying your sojourn in the frozen North! 🙂

  114. JA says:

    Giroud is a good striker but i think wenger should consider more options in the TW,to add steel to the attack and bring competition.if that happens and giroud still gets a chance more like rotating i think he can score in every game he plays.

  115. VCC says:

    Morning Red Arse…..I bet Total’s clogs have froze to the thistles. He better bring them home because one of them is a prize for the winner in the UMF. 😉

    Excellent post again AFC.

    As said by Red Arse, most arguments have already been chewed over night, and with much more eloquence than I could ever use.

    Without knowing what formation Wenger is planning on using next year, it’s virtually impossible to select a CF. Is he going to complement OG or replace him? $64k dollar question.

    For fear of banging the same old drum I have been banging these past several years, I truly believe we have the foundation/players that could compete with the big boys, ONLY, if we buy 2 or 3 BIG boys ourselves. No more fringe/young/middle of the road/average players.

    I want these marque players to come in and lift our troops heads up. Every top team needs leaders, as in life in general, football is no different. Get these 2/3 players in and the confidence will flow through the ranks. I promise 😉

    Winners breed winners ( just ask Gerry)

    If we could only see our way clear to acquire these three players ( money available?) nice and early so they can get some pre season under their belts to help gel together, we will see a formidable ARSENAL once again.

    As I posted a few days back, when teams file down the tunnel, entering the arena, ready for battle, I want our boys to have a vital psychological advantage.

    Look across at our boys in this current team and they don’t impose themselves as I would like. Now add those 3 TOP quality players and you will see the difference in the eyes of the opponents.

    We have all played the game at different levels, but it still remains the same, rank against rank, and when you look over to the team you are about to play, if they have a reputation of winning, they already possess the fear factor.

    Lets get the Mancs/Bin Dippers/Spuds/Chavs/£hitties looking over to us and once again fear us like we had with the invincibles ………..As they peered along the line from Captain then goal keeper and the rest, their words would have been something like “Get the F—” we have to play against this lot today. And if you have a big squad you can see the blood drain out of their faces when we bring on the subs. Strength sappening……..!!!

    Mr. Wenger, buy three TOP players and put the smiles back on our faces next season.

    Right, I’m off to the Emirates to give him the war cry…….wish me luck 😉

  116. VCC says:

    “Wish me luck as I go on my way”

    Hip ,hip, hip,

    hip , hip, hip

    hip hooooray.

  117. JM says:

    A flurry of activities by our scouts (Rowley and his group) in Germany (Podolski’s arrival, Djourou’s loan at Hannover, Angha signing for Nuremberg etc) and also our tie up with Real Betis (J.Campbell on loan) and recent signings (Cazorla and Monreal) from Malaga.

    Arsene commenting that the club is taking a closer look in the emergence of both Bundesliga (where we recruited Eisfeld and Gnabry) and La Liga (where we recruited Bellerin and Toral) markets, and that the quality of players from Ligue 1’s and Serie A’s have dropped, leads me to believe that our summer deals should be mainly done from/to Germany and Spain.

    Also, we rarely buy forward/strikers (or players) from other EPL clubs.
    The ones that we bought during A.W.’s management, most did not work out well:
    Arteta (from Everton) – good
    Silvestre (from Man. Utd.) – bad
    Diarra (from Chelsea) – bad
    Gallas (from Chelsea) – bad
    R.Wright (from Ipswich) – bad
    S.Campbell (from Tottenham) – good
    Jeffers (from Everton) – bad

    Walcott (was from Southampton, then in championship), Ramsey (was from Cardiff, then in championship), The Ox (was from Southampton, then in championship), Jenkinson (was from Charlton, then in League One).

    Also questionable character from recent French players we signed directly/indirectly originated from Marseille, and Loic Remy was from Marseille previously:

    Flamini (refused to sign extension contract and left on a free)
    Nasri (left for $, a troublemaker)

    Only Robert Pires (signed from Marseille) was a dedicated professional with us.

    Remy chooses to go to a club fighting relegation in EPL (and also reject Newcastle’s approach before signing for QPR) rather than stay with one who are among the top in Ligue 1 and going into European cup next season, smells full of “money grabbing mercenary” traits. I do not want him at our club.

    Marseille also signed the notorious Joey Barton on loan this season.

    (1) On forwards/strikers, we should be looking at top quality with pedigree, with playing experiences at club and national levels, at a respectable age (early to mid-20s) and likely to be in starting line-up of 1st team:

    (2) And this is not visible to the public, our management (Gazidis and his team) has to be comfortable when negotiating with the player’s agency/agent(s). No hidden clauses, no backstabbing, no “super” player agent manipulating behind the scenes etc.

    (A) From Germany/Bundesliga:

    Only a handful of Germany national team players are playing outside of their home country, where most are from mixed descent:
    Klose – German/Polish, at Lazio
    Oezil – German/Turkish, at Real Madrid
    Khedira – German/Tunisian, at Real Madrid
    Podolski – German/Polish, at Arsenal
    Holtby – German/English, at Tottenham
    Mertesacker – German, at Arsenal

    The troopers which we could look at:

    i) Andre Schurrle (Leverkusen and Germany), 22yrs, 1.84m – attacking midfielder, winger, 2nd and main striker.
    Chelsea are also looking in for him, if they could not get Falcao or Cavani.

    ii) Thomas Muller (Munich and Germany), 23yrs, 1.86m – attacking midfielder, winger, 2nd and main striker. He was also WC2010’s Golden boot and Best young player winner.
    Decision time at Bayern, with Lewandowski supposedly looking to join Gomez, Mandzukic, Pizarro and upcoming Weihrauch(from youth ranks) for the striker position.

    iii) Marco Reus (Dortmund and Germany), 23yrs, 1.81m – attacking midfielder, winger, 2nd and main striker. He was also 2012’s Footballer of the Year in Germany.

    iv) Robert Lewandowski (Dortmund and Poland), 24yrs, 1.84m – 2nd and main striker. He was also 2011’s Polish Player of the Year.

    v) Max Kruse (Frieburg), 25yrs, 1.80m – attacking midfielder, 2nd striker. (Alternative player who played well this season)

    (B) From Spain/La Liga

    A number of the Spain national team members ply their trade at other leagues:
    D.Silva – at Man.City
    Reina – at Liverpool
    Azpilicueta – at Chelsea
    de Gea – at Man. Utd.
    Monreal – at Arsenal
    J.Martinez – at Bayern Munich
    Torres – at Chelsea
    Cazorla – at Arsenal
    J.Garcia – at Man. City
    A.Dominguez – at Monchengladbach

    The usual suspects from La Liga (with the exception of Messi and C.Ronaldo):
    Benzema, Higuain, Falcao, Negredo, Soldado, A.Sanchez.

  118. VCC says:

    On my way to the Emirates.

  119. VCC says:

    jm….Schurrle……….thats the one.

    Great vids…..cheers.

  120. Ben says:

    Morning All, fine post AFC.

    I think in Poldi we have a fine striker, I am just confused why he hasn’t been played up front. I know he has been injured recently but he is without doubt our best finisher and should be given a chance. Which brings me on to who to buy, easy, Jovetic, playing in behind Poldi with Theo/Gerv and Cazorla/OX on the flanks.
    With Jacky just behind and Arteta/Ramsey/new DM this would give us a formidable attacking line up!

  121. Red Arse says:

    Stunning detail, again, JM. You never fail to give superb detail in your comments!! 😀

  122. Red Arse says:

    Morning, Ben 🙂

    I am impressed that you are not asking for the world – or at least every Tom, Dick and benzema!

    Jovetic might well be the answer, with no further recruits necessary upfront.

    That would leave plenty of money over to sort out the DM and perhaps a RB if Sagna leaves.

  123. glic says:

    Morning Genitalicrectophobic`s 😆

    As per usual, some fine comments in the Mass debating of last night !. hahaha

    My favourite though is this mornings @ 09:53 from my Great great great great great great trannie grandad Vicky !. hahaha .

  124. jgc says:


    Some comments hopefully not quite covered from my perspective at least.

    1. Fear and Threat: Strikers are there to score goals AND create fear/threat … I suspect that Giroud has done the first as they all do count. But not sure on the second, which is IMO almost as important. Without “fear” other teams can relax on the player and focus elsewhere. You want a striker that always has defenders shading off their man a little “just in case”… VJ created lots of threat and scored goals.

    2. The “when” counts… Arsenal as a TEAM need to score more “big” goals. As noted and evident in stats, we have a great goal difference (way better than spuds) but not the points. This comes from big wins and then … We are 2-3 goals from having 6 more points than we do and far less conversations about 4th place. We wouldnt be leding the league nor close, but “when” counts too.

    3. Formation and Talent: It isnt the pace, technique or anything else. All teams work best, no matter how well they go, when the players are used to their best ability. Much written here seems to indicate that OGs abilities also arent being maximised. So, whomever we get or whatever we do, that needs to get sorted or we are wasting our time.

    Who would I buy if I were emperor for the day: … doesnt matter but:

    a. Clinical – we need more clinical
    b. Creates fear due to something (dont care what it is, even if its just smells bad)

    From all the posts written this sounds like Jovetic or Schurlle or Yilmaz in broad overview.

    Which all leads to my question for any truly stats heavy types out there. To meet my basic criteria who are the best conversion rates? We are good at getting the ball in position (look how many complaints we all have on misses), but as a team we dont seem to finish quite enough and, as noted, we are 2-3 goals from less fear of the season..

    Just my 37p

    — jgc

  125. Red Arse says:


    Can’t be arsed to format all the info you asked for, but these are the top goal scorers since the inception of the EPL until 2011/12.

    It shows, Rank, Name, Goals scored.

    Strike rates are an indicator of a striker’s prowess — what counts is the goals he scores.

    1 Alan Shearer 260
    2 Andy Cole 189
    3 Thierry Henry 176
    4 Robbie Fowler 163
    5 Michael Owen 149
    6 Les Ferdinand 149
    7 Frank Lampard 148
    8 Teddy Sheringham 147
    9 Wayne Rooney 137
    10 Jimmy Hasselbaink 127
    11 Robbie Keane 126
    12 Nicholas Anelka 123
    13 Dwight Yorke 123
    14 Ian Wright 113
    15 Dion Dublin 111
    16 Jermain Defoe 111
    17 Emile Heskey 111
    18 Ryan Giggs 107
    19 Paul Scholes 104
    20 Didier Drogba 101
    21 Matthew Le Tissier 101
    22 Darren Bent 100
    23 Ruud van Nistelrooy 95
    24 Robin van Persie 92
    25 Mark Viduka 92
    26 Kevin Phillips 92
    27 Ole Solskjaer 91
    28 Yakubu Aiyegbeni 90
    29 James Beattie 90
    30 Steven Gerrard 89
    31 Dennis Bergkamp 87
    32 Louis Saha 85 21
    33 Cristiano Ronaldo 84
    34 Chris Sutton 83
    35 Kevin Davies 83
    36 Kevin Campbell 82
    37 Gary Speed 81
    38 Craig Bellamy 79
    39 Tony Cottee 78
    40 Dimitar Berbatov 76
    41 Emmanuel Adebayor 72
    42 Chris Armstrong 71
    43 Eric Cantona 70
    44 Carlos Tevez 70
    45 Brian Deane 70
    46 Fernando Torres 68
    47 Paolo Di Canio 68
    48 Duncan Ferguson 68
    49 Peter Crouch 67
    50 Dean Holdsworth 63
    51 Mark Hughes 63
    52 Stan Collymore 62
    53 Robert Pires 62

  126. AFC says:

    Hi, guys. 🙂

    Some wonderful comments guys all throughout the night and morning. 🙂

    These comments are so detailed and cover virtually every single possible view I would not know where to start on getting back to all of you guys. 🙂

  127. Red Arse says:

    Shows what agreat Post it was AFC. 🙂

  128. AFC says:

    Guys, I really want to get back to you but my connection is really bad!

  129. jgc says:

    Thanks RA,

    I think the reason I wanted strike rate was that so much discussion focused on wasted chances for OG and thus on his prowess/clinical ability. But, I actually wonder if it is wasted for us as a team.

    We seem statistically to generate lots and lots of shots but less goals than other teams per shot…Or so I suspect.

    I.e. is RVJ hitting more of his chances or do they generate more chances than us to have scored the same (more in the PL this season).

    It really asks I guess, if I talk my thru, are we weak offensively in generating chances/shots or weak clinically in finishing them. This debate would be informed perhaps by knowing which was the case!

    Just a thought and I appreciate the response on total scorers too…

    cheers — jgc

  130. VCC says:

    AFC 14:02…………..Don’t worry about the others, just get back to me……

    😉 😆 :D:

  131. jnyc says:

    I like giroud alot but have been saying that he is not quick or fast enough, and takes too long to get off a shot. A good second choice striker. Also like his team play, assists and helping on defence. Also we dont get nearly enough good crosses for him. That has been a deficiency for a while now.

  132. Red Arse says:

    OK, JGC,

    You are a hard man to please!
    These are; Avge Goals per game; Player; Goals Scored in EPL; Total Appearances.

    That should help your theory. (or not)

    1.46 Thierry Henry 174 254
    1.58 Ruud van Nistelrooy 95 150
    1.70 Alan Shearer 260 441
    1.82 Fernando Torres 68 124
    1.88 Ian Wright 113 213
    2.13 Michael Owen 149 318
    2.15 Didier Drogba 97 209
    2.17 Robin van Persie 77 167
    2.19 Andy Cole 189 414
    2.23 Eric Cantona 70 156
    2.26 Carlos Tevez 70 158
    2.27 Jimmy Hasselbaink 127 288
    2.27 Darren Bent 96 218
    2.28 Emmanuel Adebayor 64 146
    2.32 Robbie Fowler 163 378
    2.33 Cristiano Ronaldo 84 196
    2.33 Wayne Rooney 126 294
    2.36 Les Ferdinand 149 351
    2.48 Dimitar Berbatov 69 171
    2.58 Ole Solskjaer 91 235

    Better yet, to do your own research, go to;

    Best of luck! 🙂

  133. Highbury Harmony says:

    I’m just going to assume Reus is coming to Arsenal so I can be incredibly happy until May, followed by likely massive disappointment in the summer.

    Based on his latest comments about our club, in particular Wilshere and Rosicky, he seems to have a high affinity for us. Rosicky is his idol, while he thinks Jack is one of the best players in the world. Thus, if you put two and two together, he is secretly hinting that he is coming to Arsenal!!!

    Mystery solved. We are buying Reus 😉

  134. Red Arse says:

    Hi jnyc, 🙂

    Good to see you on BK. 🙂 The striker issue certainly needs resolving.

  135. Highbury Harmony says:

    Also, David Dein spoke out and said AW will spend this summer. Not sure what that’s worth since he’s no longer involved with the organization but he said AW knows that he needs to strengthen this team and with the right quality of players. Only now, apparently he finally has the cash to do so.

  136. Red Arse says:

    HH, 🙂

    You mean the ‘Giant’ that Glic cannot tattoo on his you know what!! 😀

  137. Red Arse says:


    Dein frequently has lunch/Dinner with AW, as they are close personal friends, so I guess he knows what he is saying to be true — Kroenke permitting! 🙂

  138. Highbury Harmony says:

    RA, what a conundrum Glic has found himself in with that one haha! Quite a contradiction for him unfortunately, though he will be happy knowing he got the right tattoo for a player coming to Arsenal (I’m praying).

  139. Highbury Harmony says:

    RA, I’m praying DD is right and has inside knowledge on the situation. It is the perfect time for him to spend in my eyes. With the right purchases this summer, I truly think we can contend for silverware.

  140. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    HH, those comments were published last week. I should know as Reus is to me as Isco is to Glic or Jovetic is to the rest of you 😉

    The one reason i believe he will still be there even after Gotze, Bender, Hummels or any other star leaves is that he was born in Dortmund. His love for Rosa is because he played for his club. I think there is a bigger chance of Rosa going the other way with us picking up somebody else. (the papers will say Gotze but we will end up with their keeper. haha)

    Sorry to burst your bubble mate, i took it pretty hard too!

    Back to the drawing board.

    Great comments over night and this morning. VCC and his hip hip hip replacement was funny 😀

  141. Red Arse says:

    You may have already heard, but the EPL FFP rules (separate from the UEFA FFP) have been approved by the Premier League.

    The plans promise two significant controls: To limit players’ wage bills from next season and longer-term measures that will restrict the amount of losses clubs can make to £105million over three years.

    Clubs whose total wage bill is more than £52million will only be allowed to increase their wages by £4million per season for the next three years, but the cap does not cover extra money coming in from increases in commercial or matchday income.

    The ceiling when the wage increase restrictions kick in will be £52million next season, £56miliion the following year and £60million in 2015-16. Only seven of the current top-flight clubs would be under that ceiling at the moment.

    The regulations have come about against the backdrop of UEFA’s Financial Fair Play (FFP) initiative.

    Under UEFA’s new rules clubs are being forced to minimise losses or risk the possibility of exclusion from European competition from 2014/15.

    Should Premier League clubs break their proposed new rules, chief executive Richard Scudamore has already confirmed that they will face a points deduction.

  142. JM says:

    Add-on to my post @ April 11, 2013 10:06:

    Fresh Update on transfer just today: Take Max Kruse out of the picture as he will sign for Borussia Monchengladbach at the start of next season. (And this after he was mentioned in my early post)

    Thanks for the mentions, VCC @ April 11, 2013 10:20 (Yes, if we do a covert pre-contract agreement and signing for Andre Schurrle, ahead of Chelsea), and Red Arse @ April 11, 2013 11:28.


    Team news for the weekend match against Norwich:

    Wilshere & Walcott are back, Rosicky doubtful (hamstring irritation), Mertesacker out (1 game suspension), Diaby (a new signing in Jan 2014, if he is still around).

    No disrespect to Norwich, but we meet Everton in the EPL, early next week (Tue), so Wilshere and Walcott start from the bench.

    In which case, my team lineup would be:

    GK: Fabianski
    DF: Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Monreal
    MF: Arteta, Ramsey, Cazorla
    FW: Giroud, Gervinho, The Ox

    Sub: Mannone/Szczesny, Sagna, Gibbs, Coquelin, Wilshere, Podolski, Walcott.

  143. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Redders, i thought/heard that Wenger and Dean are neighbours. True or tripe?

  144. Highbury Harmony says:

    PPP, I read those comments last week too, just trying to grasp any sort of hope that I can to bring him here. Actually, some of his comments on Rosicky being his idol stretch back to 2011. If you read my overnight comments, you’ll see that I’m not convinced Reus will leave because 1) he just joined last summer and 2) BD will not have a mass exodus of players as everyone is hoping for. I believe only RL will leave, with maybe MH being an outside chance. I think MG and MR will stay.

  145. Red Arse says:

    Earlier today, the Premier League awarded the touchline technology contract to Hawk Eye, which will be introduced in August, so no more dodgy goals ‘not’ being awarded.

  146. Red Arse says:


    AW and DD are not next door neighbours, but both are said to live in the upmarket Hampstead area of London. [For those Londoners on here — no cracks about the notorious Hampstead Heath – famous for highwaymen in the mid 1800s — and notorious now for certain laissez-faire sexual activities]. 🙂

  147. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    I agree on the Dortmund front, especially as they have come so far in Europe proper and are miraculously still in with a shout.
    The tripe in the papers are saying that Shitty are gonna go head to head with the Arse for Goetze in a 40mil war (where have i seen that before) but i too read the article about the new FFP being implemented in the EPL starting next season and somehow that story seems a no-go for Shitty. Tough tits i say, we should pounce whilst everyone is checking that their books balance. We have been doing that long enough, i want a suprise package from Dortmund 😉

  148. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Thanking you Redders, but now im all curious about this sexy-lazy-affair business?………………………..Do tell 🙂

  149. Red Arse says:

    As a foreigner myself, and an innocent in such matters, I think one of the local Terrible Threesome of Glic/Terry/Vicky would need to explain!! 😀

  150. Red Arse says:

    Ooops, did I say ‘threesome’? 😳

  151. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Hi JM,
    In regards to Thomas Muller. He would have been my first choice if Theo had not signed. Actually in a 4-3-3 Muller makes Theo look like a novice. Anyway, i have my doubts about him ever being let go by Munchen. There is a bigger chance of them releasing Mario Gomez in my opinion, as MM has proven that he is a more complete and athletic centre forward.

    Still would not hurt to test the waters with TM.

  152. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    😆 Redders

    menage a trois

  153. Highbury Harmony says:

    RA @ 16:09, why do you insist on giving Glic more ways to make fun of my name, double H?! 😉

  154. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Now Van Goldmember has a clog on my tail.

    Oh why Sir am i in moderation? I have said far naughtier things than 4-3-3some

  155. jgc says:


    Many MANY thanks… So, it got me off my lazy ass.. What I wanted was a shots to goal conversion rate.. Is OG that bad… easy to find out, compare to some guy at ManU and the other guy there.. plus Arsenal vs ManU

    I went to ESPN and PL stats and got goals and shots and shots on goal… that leads to a clinical conversion rate (goals per shot)

    name goals shots shots.goal clinical shots rate clinical on goal rate
    Tomas Rosicky 2 4 3 0.50 0.67
    Mikel Arteta 5 17 7 0.29 0.71
    Laurent Koscielny 1 4 2 0.25 0.50
    Lukas Podolski 8 42 14 0.19 0.57
    Nacho Monreal 1 6 1 0.17 1.00
    Theo Walcott 11 68 28 0.16 0.39
    Gervinho 5 33 9 0.15 0.56
    Per Mertesacker 2 14 5 0.14 0.40
    Santi Cazorla 12 98 33 0.12 0.36
    Olivier Giroud 10 96 35 0.10 0.29
    Alex Oxlade-Ch 1 31 7 0.03 0.14
    Arsenal as team 58 413 144 0.14 0.40

    A certain ManU guy 19 115 51 0.17 0.37
    The other ManU guy 12 76 31 0.16 0.39
    A certain ManU club 66 469 181 0.14 0.36

    ==> SURPRISE… those other guys are mid table for Arsenal, tho better than OG who does appear a bit wasteful given his shot numbers.

    There is quite a lot to be said for Podolski and Walcott is in good company

    Time for more controversy?

    cheers — jgc

  156. jgc says:

    And drat the formatting didnt stick… any way to embed a picture??

  157. Highbury Harmony says:

    PPP, perhaps you should rephrase your last sentence @16:11 before Glic pounces on it and has a laugh at your expense hahaha ;).

    Preferably, I would want to see us land Reus and Lars Bender from the Bundesliga. That combination would propel us to the level of the Mancs imo. Proper chemistry, momentum and some luck and we could pull off a surprise in the CL, a la BD this year. The best clubs do not always progress in the tournament, however it’s hard to argue this year as I believe the four best clubs in the world still remain.

  158. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:


    Reus or Jovetic?….your job depends on it!

    By the way, the game between BD and Malaga had a few hints of offside. Either side could have gone home with sour grapes.

  159. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Do we stick with an in-form Gerv for Naarich, remembering we have the Toffees in a 6-pointer a few days later or do we plead for rotation?

  160. Highbury Harmony says:

    PPP, imo it was evened out as Malaga’s second goal was also offside. In the end, karma played its part and the better team moved on. BD were dominant in that game and there should be no complaints whatsoever about their final offside goal (considering Malaga’s offside one).

    I haven’t a clue as to who I’d rather have. Both complement our current group quite well, but in this instance I’d have to go with the more proven finisher and player in Reus than the high potential in Jovetic. However, with that said, I would not complain whatsoever about getting either. Jovetic has a publicly confirmed his affinity for Arsenal and his potential is limitless imo.

  161. Highbury Harmony says:

    PPP, that’s a good question. We could very well see Theo as striker and Gerv/Santi feeding him from the wings. Santi doesn’t like to cross the ball and Gerv is not very good at doing so, which perhaps paves the way for Theo or Poldi to start centrally. I believe AW really wants Gerv to continue his good form and in his presser he claimed we have yet to see the best from him.

    My guess is that Gerv starts Saturday.

  162. Red Arse says:


    Alas, I disagree with you regarding Walcott. He is too short, too lacking in physique, does not have either the control or the composure to play centrally. Sorry! 🙂

  163. Highbury Harmony says:

    RA, he can’t be any worse that OG!! To be honest, I would like to see Poldi start centrally, but we all know OG will be starting this weekend at ST. Theo or Poldi starting there is just wishful thinking on my part…

  164. Red Arse says:

    Be careful what you wish for HH!! 😀

  165. Highbury Harmony says:

    RA, I wish for Reus and Lars Bender to join Arsenal this summer…clearly, we know my wishes don’t hold much weight hahaha!

  166. Red Arse says:

    I would be very happy with those choices, HH. Fingers crossed!! 🙂

  167. Highbury Harmony says:

    RA, I was thinking about what would happen to our squad if we bought a new ST this summer. To be honest, I’m not quite sure where Poldi fits in, unless of course he is tried there next season. The only way he fits into the starting line-up is if we move to a 4-1-2-3, otherwise Jack will be our AM and Santi will be pushed out wide on the left. Poldi then becomes another “super sub” for us, who rotates into the starting line-up every so often. I have my doubts that Poldi would accept such limited playing time.

    Also, a move to the 4-1-2-3 likely spells the end of Arteta’s career as a starter (might not be a bad thing). What do you think?

  168. AFC says:

    HH, Arteta could still have a starting place in a 4-1-2-3 formation next season. We could see the new DM holding with Arteta and Wilshere in front of him with Santi, Podolski and Walcott rotated on the wings.

    Saying that we could stick with a 4-2-1-3 formation next season. I do see Wenger sticking with Arteta and our new DM holding.

  169. VCC says:

    Red Arse 16:20…….

    Me Sir?
    No Sir?
    Impossible Sir
    Never Sir
    Would I Sir?
    No way Sir


  170. AFC says:

    Connection is much better now. 🙂

    HH, I think Wenger will stick with the same players and I think he should. Walcott and Wilshere are amongst our best players however I do not want to see them come back into the team. Guys like Rosicky have worked hard and now this whole team is on a winning streak. Players coming back in could unsettle the team again.

  171. VCC says:

    That’s it, I’ve made my mind up.

    I want Schurrle.

    And I want him NOW (foot stomping)

    NOW, I said.

    F— this Isco bloke…….he’s a poof…….I want a real striker. A real Man.

    I think he’s turning me gay 😉

    Sorry GLiC….I’m out of the closet now, I’ve resisted your advances at the pie n mash shop, I’ve found myself a real striker. 😉

  172. Highbury Harmony says:

    VCC, then you should be looking at wanting Reus. He’s better :), but I guess Schurrle is more realistic though the Chavs almost bought him last summer.

  173. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, which is why I was wondering what Poldi’s role would be. Arteta is a senior player at the club and his communication and leadership seem to be vital. Thus, I can see him acting as a deep-lying playmaker DM like Pirlo for us next season.

  174. AFC says:

    HH, and you are right. How will we fit all of these players in our team. Could Podolski be leaving? I think that is unlikely despite interest from Juventus. Maybe Wenger will properly rotate next season. He might have to. Unless he is planning to play with 3 defenders which I cannot see him doing.

  175. Red Arse says:


    You are outing me too. Move over VCC! 🙂 Actually, I have written this before, but as TA is not around, 🙂 I will say it again. [Any complaints — just remember, I am 6′ 5″ (196cms) and 18 stone (subject to fluctuation) 🙂

    I think Arteta is a good professional player, and I like him, but he is not getting any younger, he is slow (we have enough of them) and he is not really a top quality player — oh, and he is playing out of position as a DM.

    Apart from that ………………….. 😀

  176. VCC says:

    Highbury Harmony 19:10.

    If Reus is better than Schurrle, then I will leave my Wife for him

    I have sent an email to Total asking him to ban JM, cos he started all this mullarkey. He has wetted my appetite.

    My letter is on the way to Arsene Wenger as we speak. Go get him and don’t hesitate and let the Chavs or Mancs sneak in before us.

  177. Highbury Harmony says:

    AFC, I think it’s certainly a nice problem to have :). However, as you can see with other squads with a lot of depth, there is frequent rotation and the subs are either experienced or still very young (ex. Villa at Barca, Welbeck at Manure etc.). The better players in general, do not respond as well to frequent rotation since it disrupts their ability to get on form, in addition to properly forming chemistry with other starters. However, there needs to be a balance and AW has unfortunately not found that quite yet.

    The beauty of buying a player like Reus/Schurrle is their versatility in that they can also line up wide and would not complain being played out there at all. Both players have excellent heads on their shoulders and are talented, team first individuals.

    RA, I could also see Arteta moving to the bench next year, although my guy tells me that AW will keep him in the starting line-up and buy a DM/B2B mid to play WITH Arteta. He probably values his leadership and experience too much and sees him as a calming influence for our squad.

  178. AFC says:

    HH, I think the problem is that most of our forwards are around the same age. So this makes it harder to rotate.

    Really want Tottenham to go through. Their lack of depth and injuries will see their league form suffer because of tired players. 😉

  179. TotalArsenal says:

    Evening fine fellow Gooners! 😛

    New Post – New Post!

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