Theo, Ox, Gnabry and Campbell would revel in ‘Van Gaal’s’ 3-5-2

The World Cup 2014 has provided us with a brilliant platform to analyse how the beautiful game has developed – and will develop further – and where Wenger’s Arsenal stands in all of this. My thoughts, in terms of what the most successful systems and formations are, are constantly being adjusted. We have enjoyed the attacking approaches of most of this tournament’s participants and the glut of goals this resulted in, but there is also a tactical beauty to be analysed.

Unfortunately, I also missed quite a few games; so I am hoping you fine fellow Gooners will give me your take on the tournament’s teams and football in general as well today.

Some initial observations

Spain’s tiki-taka seems to have been decoded, and who would have thought that, even two years ago? It looked like Spain had found a system of football that conquered all. High ball circulation in the opposition’s half, with immaculate passing, high levels of ball possession, goals from almost any player on the pitch and a slow, inescapable suffocation of any opponent. With so many young talents coming through, it looked like they would be able to slowly replace the tiki-taka masterminds of Iniesta and Xavi, thus remain a force for a long, long time.

But Van Gaal had done his home work and realised that in order to beat the Spanish he, the team, as well as the entire nation, needed to undergo a temporary(?) paradigm shift. The holy orange 4-3-3 was abandoned, and constantly zooming in and out of 3-5-2 and 5-3-2 was applied. The Dutch dared to push up a bit and overpopulated the midfield; as a result, the Spanish triangles were disturbed and the flow was constantly interrupted. The Dutch added a lot of bite to their game and hassled their opponents constantly, and they were helped quite a bit by the referee’s leniency on the night. Nevertheless, the Spanish were able to pick a few holes in the Dutch defence and, despite being given a soft penalty, deserved to be 1-0 up in the first half.

However, Van Gaal had prepared his team for this eventuality, and they did not panic. The tactics soon paid off and in dramatic style. Before and after the break, Holland were able to find a hole in the Spanish system, and once they found it they pounced on it till the decoding was complete: brutal yes, but nobody likes to be suffocated either. The free man on the left was Blind – the blind spot – who instantly put the ball in the acres of space the Spanish system allows behind their ‘deepest’ ‘strangle’ line. The first time, Van Judas runs into it and, for once, found the net against a top team with an otherworldly effort; the second time it was Robben, who was able to control the ball in the Spanish box before beating two defenders and the goalie with composure and precision. Three more goals followed as the Dutch smelled blood, but those first two tactical/training ground efforts had already done the damage: the Spanish system had been overcome and they knew it.

The big question is now whether Spain can mend/improve their tiki-taka or whether they will abandon it entirely. I reckon the former will be the case, but they will have to find a way, and perhaps the players, to iron out its weaknesses, both in defence and up-front. One goal in two games, against Holland and Chile, despite high possession rates, is simply not good enough.

Ironically, France, Germany, Brazil and Argentina all play a more attacking style of football than Holland and are set up along the formation of 4-3-3/4-2-1-3: the current Arsenal system if you want. Van Gaal feels he has not got world class defenders, but even more importantly, high quality attacking midfielders to play such a system; hence the 3-5-2/5-3-2 un-Dutch choice of formation. Relatively low possession and pass completion rates are a worry, but nine points and most goals (10) in the first round of games are a very pleasant surprise. Van Gaal, if we did not know it yet, is one of the best managers of the world, and his ability to make tactical adjustments is second to none imo. He gets criticised for going against the Dutch Needs Attacking (DNA) football to a large degree, but I applaud him for it all the way.

The beauty of the current Dutch system is that it allows for space to be exploited, as the team sits back a lot in its own half, ready to pounce at any moment. For that, though, you need pacey, high quality attackers, and that is the one area in which the Dutch are blessed. Thierry Henry was in rapture after the Spain- Holland game and you can see why: he would have fecking loved being one of those two attackers. So much space to run into and express himself – just as much as Robben is enjoying himself more than any other Dutchman: pace and space is like oxygen an fire for him and he is having the time of his life.

However, ‘absorb and pounce’ is very un-Dutch and by far my least favourite system of football, and it is also an un-Wengerlike style of football; and their occasional inability to hold onto the ball and pass themselves out of trouble is a worry. However, if Van Gaal can get this right – and every World Cup game offers him a new opportunity to further strengthen and adjust the team – the Dutch could well make it into the final with the current system.

The World Cup is of course a tournament, and such tactics are more appropriate for such an occasion than for example the PL league. The question to ask is:

Would it work for Arsene’s Arsenal?

It could work a treat. I have no doubt that Ozil or Jack would revel in 3-5-2: both are a lot better than Sneijder in holding onto the ball and make defensive contributions. Ramsey and a proper DM – ala De Jong – would shore up our defence in front of the back three – and our natural passing game would come to full fruition. Up-front we don’t have a Robben or Van Judas, or do we? With Theo, Ox, Gnabry, and hopefully soon Campbell, we have the pacey, space-loving attackers for such a system. With Gibbs and Jenkinson we have the full backs to bomb up and down all the time, although the latter might have to wait one or two more season to become our nr.1 RB. I reckon BFG and Koz would revel in such a system, especially if TV could be one of the ‘CBs’ as well.

It all depends on how Arsene wants to take his team to the next stage. In the pre-Cesc, Bergkamp days, we played a fantastic 4-4-1-1 and we were blessed with speed, brilliant passing football and top quality finishers (Henry, Bergkamp, Pires and Ljungberg). We loved to get the ball of the opponents in our half, or in midfield and then pounce forward like a collective tiger with breathtaking and deadly attacks. We were also pretty good at smothering the opponents in their own half and pass our way into the box.

Since and post the Cesc team, we gradually lost this and replaced it with pure possession and passing football. At times, especially when Cesc was our conductor, we played phenomenally clever and beautiful football, but for all sorts of reasons it did not bring us success. We have not replaced Cesc and during the last three years the quality of our football has deteriorated imo.

I could go and on and on about this but it is time to open the debate:

Is it time to try something different, and is ‘Van Gaal’s’ 3-5-2/5-3-2 the best way forward for our current squad of players? Which formation would you prefer to get us to the next level – and who is the one super quality player we need to add in order to play it to its full strength?

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233 Responses to Theo, Ox, Gnabry and Campbell would revel in ‘Van Gaal’s’ 3-5-2

  1. Dd says:

    Tika taka was xavi and iniesta, Tika taka is only dead for now because xavi is to old and past his prime, iniesta is lost without him. They dominated world football for almost a decade. The style Tika taka is far from dead it needs the world class players like xavi and iniesta to make it happen. It is by far the best module to play football and the proved it by smashing all the records. Tika Xavi taka iniesta.

  2. Gerry says:

    TA – Great post. Especially for me, as I like theorising about possibilities.

    I think it is one option we could play, some of the time, but not with the current squad.

    In order to pull it off successfully, all eleven have to be defenders at some point.
    They also have to have pace throughout to get from defence and into attack before the opposition gets organised.
    They need to work as a unit when pressing high, and not be careless with passes, as that undoes the work gaining possession.
    Finally, we would need a right sided CB, and have the DM, which we haven’t got either, to cover Per’s back in the middle. Unfortunately we let slip the very guy who could have been that CB, yes Bacary Sagna!

    So it comes back to the previous post …

  3. mubah says:

    Yap Fantastic I prefer this formation 3-5-2 it look amazing and we will love to see such an attacking football.

  4. Gerry says:

    Sorry TA, I would have expanded on the above, but I have a dog with needs ..

  5. JM says:

    Ron Vlaar, Rafael Márquez & Gary Medel played the most significant role/position in the 3-5-2/5-3-2 formation, just as previously Franz Beckenbauer, Lothar Matthäus/Klaus Augenthaler, Matthias Sammer had established themselves with Germany’s WC & Euro winning squads; with Gaetano Scirea in Italy’s WC winning squad.
    It is a role/position rarely used in professional modern football. The sweeper/liberio.

    which makes the upcoming Netherlands vs Mexico match a could-be tactical spectacle.

    Per Mertesacker is best candidate for our club in this role.

  6. TotalArsenal says:

    Gerry, sorry have been busy too since issuing the post. Hope Flossie is okay, catch you later.

  7. Prince says:

    (cut and pasted and tweaked from the other site alcoholics anonymous- because im lazy to write)

    Gday all. Hope your all well. 🙂

    Thought i might throw my two bob, in.

    Total, i can sense the excitement growing for this WC. I can hear it through your writing, and you only have Van Gaal to thank. He is a super coach. A manager with brains, braun, balls and, a confidence/arrogance that defines him and his intelligent style.. I think he believes in his system and team. The only thing out of his hands, (on game day) is the mental discipline needed from his players, to carry out the Oranje blueprint.

    Pre- tournament, its fair to say that nobody really thought the ‘Oranje’ had a chance of going all the way.
    Then…..that mauling of the current world champions Spain, seemed to raise a few eyebrows, mind that their main strikers have hit their stride and seem dangerous, if given a sniff of half a chance!
    So, it should be an easy sleasy win for the dutch- and one little dutch boy/brat? Right?

    Well it should be. Especially, when you consider that ‘Meh-hiko’ had barely scraped past, their second chance qualifying play-off, against those ‘kiwi sheep artists’. But, my gut (yes its big and full of heineken) tells me that the Dutch will only get through, but by no more than a single goal. Maybe even an extra time decider?

    Every South american team, bar Ecuador, has/had made it through group stages and to the surprise of almost everybody football connected (with the exception of those, few patriotic fanatics who’s teams are still involved), and the welcome, cheeky grins, from the bookies.

    Maybe its something in the tequila, or would it be wrong to say that European squads do struggle in SthAmerica.
    Nigeria, very nearly stole it from equal tournament favourites Germany, but settled for a 2-2 draw, and those goals were conceded to a team that is not known for technical skill or tactical nouse. They scored because they dealt with the climate, ran and fought the full 90+ min without dropping a gear at the end,. AND there is no way that they underestimated ze Germans. Same happened with the Aussies took it to the dutch.
    Heart, fight and better acclimatization, almost got the Kangas an upset of the tournament, only for technical skill and tournament experience to get em over the line.

    I see the same, with the Dutch, prevailing by a single goal. A scrappy affair to which Van Gaals’ “total voetbal” will win passage through to the next round and play the “next fooking referee to call in favour of a south american tournament favourite” 🙄

    Ahhh, the Greeks! Funny, when i think of them, first thing springs is “Piss Poor Team”. But those Greeks are the ‘chavs of Brasil 14′ as they base their strategy and tactics on the ‘big bad bus’ that they consider ‘defence’. They have that Jesus dude from Celtic who has a similar strike rate to Kevin Doyle, but 1-0 is enough, with 0-0 a good result, as penalties are a lottery (and Dimitri, Xanthu and Bill loooove the camera close-ups). No one gives them hope, nor did they give em any hope when they won the Euros in ‘Chav$ki style’.

    That reminds me of my ‘stoopid’ Greek neighbour (at the time), put a ridiculous bet of just over ten grand on his “pride and joy- his ‘piss poor Greece’”. (A ‘no-sense no-logic’ bet, that he caught at odds, a little over 1000/1)
    Last week, i bumped into that ‘shtuupid griko’ as he likes to refer to himself. The bastad cant stop laughing.
    With his (flukey) winnings, he moved to a beautiful waterfront home, in Brighton Le Sands, and spends most of his days on his shiny dinghy- catching live bait for his octopus lunches or breaking the extra plates in the colder seasons.

    My heart says that J.Campbell will be MoTM and score a few in this match (maybe the rounds after?) but my head says to expect inconsistencies in his game and his form.
    This will all tune up as his development progresses and he experiences a quicker and tougher league in Eng.
    Im very excited, at his raw talent and pace, but im not expecting big stats with him next year.
    More so, the important goal or two or more, that will get us out of the shite when we’re flat on the day or ready to choke.

    Oranje by 1 goal v Mehiko

    Costa Campbell 0- 1 to the ‘shtuupid Grikos’ and their piss poor tactics.

    Never meant to write this much, then i puffed the magic dragon, and it is what it is!

    Be safe, and good night Britain.

    PS. (just a tiny rant)
    My teams are all out. I think its only fair now, that the Dutch win it. Football owes it to them! 😉
    But, i still cant stand Robben, if that hog, was in my squad, he would be sat on the bench till he learns…. I would do the same with Christina Ronalda!!
    I CANT STAND HOGS, No matter how good they are, the team will always grow, develop and score more widespread goals without the camera and ball hogs in the team!

  8. Prince says:

    Everything is in place. The resources are all there.
    Im expecting a big improvement on our 7 point defecit. Wenger owes it to the team, the supporters and himself.
    Im trusting him to steer this ship, not only to fourth place delirium, have a rest on the mickey mouse tin, a solid push for the FA tin, a huge thrust for big ears tin kup in Europe, and for all gooners to be holding their breath on the last day of the season, as we wait for the day and results to unfold, and sneaking through to the top to be announced as the Premier League Champinhos 🙂
    Not too much to ask, after patiently waiting and defending our eight year tight arse tactics, that saw the solid foundations for our future being built. A sacrifice made, by one and club, that WAS needed.
    Bandaged-up project youths and oooohhh sooo, soo close. But now its time for that cigar. The resources are all there in place, as are all our sponsors, corporates and the supporters who never once wavered. Here is the thing though! I have always said that Arsene is a pure genius… Now its time for reward, and i believe he is a great manager that, can and will deliver, especially since the grand master plan has come to fruition and resources are in place. ALL systems are GO!!
    No excuses left, really??

    Catch ya’ll laterzzZ’Z

  9. James Bond says:

    nice one @ Skipper

    but I would like to keep my observation of this one rather short and sweet.

    yes, it’s worked for The Netherlands so far , however, they have ONLY come across teams who play FOOTBALL and hence it has worked well, the 3-5-2 or a 5-3-2.

    yes, he got his tactics spot on for the group, however, as soon as that system is exposed against a more all round team, let’s say hmmmm Germany /Columbia/Belgium or even an Algeria – that be when we will get a different dimension to it.

    all am trying to say is that so far it’s all been pretty one dimensional opponents for The Dutch.

    so in short, I will reserve judgment on this system as this 3-5-2 can be countered with a 4-1-4-1 or a 4-5-1 .

  10. James Bond says:

    or Mexico – the system will be tested today though and I quite Fancy me Amigo’s Mexico to take push the Netherlands all the way – we might be in for our first major upset of the knockouts.

  11. James Bond says:

    by the way – no need to take the Sanchez one with a pinch of salt – there is a “definite” interest in that one.

    what are the thoughts of fellow gooners on Sanchez ?

    where would we be deploying him… hmmmmmm

  12. James Bond says:

    😯

  13. The Cockie Monster says:

    Still not sure how to copy and paste a comment, but that was as close as I could do it !………cupid stunt drug dealer always does a new post whilst I`m writing a comment !. 👿
    As for the post !……..I like women`s formations, numbers and I`m only interested in SQ players, they will do the business whatever formation !. hahaha
    The only upset in the WC so far is………….me !………..I`m fcuking upset we haven`t bought any of my SQ yet !.

  14. TotalArsenal says:

    Thanks for comments guys. All dressed in orange now and ready to roll. Catch you after the game. 🙂

  15. James Bond says:

    The Cockie Monster says:
    June 29, 2014 at 12:34
    I`ve been in St Ives and straight away in the Hotel lift I caught a glance of some hot body, so rushed into the lift (elevator) to say hello in tongue language !……..upto the 3rd floor on my own salivating the mirror !.
    Watched my Rod last night and screamed the place down with that GOAL !. They played better in the earlier games, Totes !. Cuadrado and The Rod for me !.
    I`ve sort of gone two players from each team….so they can have a friendly face as companions !….Top of list….The Rod and Cuadrado from Colombia. Sanchez and Vidal from Chile !. Gotze and Reus from Germany !. Benzema and Pogba from France !. Di Maria and Lavezzi from Argie Bargies and Drugschhh and Pornschhh from Hollandschhh !.
    Listen Senis Puckers !…………last year it was good knowledge that we culled and saved £450k per week on wages and we`ve just had another cull, so don’t listen to these BK Wengerite Rectum Licker Accountants…..listen to a dodgy Cockney !…..we are fcuking loaded and all within FFP !…….and I must say that Chancellor Wenger has been looking really chilled and relaxed out there in Brazil, so something is a coming and it`s not just me looking fantastically naked in front of my mirror !……..you know it makes sense !.

    PS: highlight the entire comment by using the cursor(mouse) or keep the left click (mouse) pressed as you move over the content/comment you want to copy ,..it turns blue then either right click and copy or press ctrl + c and then that’s COPIED – part A done , next bit is easy – simply right click and PASTE or do ctrl+P to the place where you want it pasted – sorted.

  16. TotalArsenal says:

    Cockie, go to left top corner of your text, do a left click and drag down till all the text you want to copy is highlighted; then do a right click with your mouse and choose ‘copy’….. Then go to the post and go into the empy comment box….do a right click and opt for ‘paste’, and your text will appear in the box. 🙂

  17. TotalArsenal says:

    Hahaha JB, great minds…. 🙂

  18. The Cockie Monster says:

    Still not sure how to copy and paste a comment, but that was as close as I could do it !………cupid stunt drug dealer always does a new post whilst I`m writing a comment !. 👿
    As for the post !……..I like women`s formations, numbers and I`m only interested in SQ players, they will do the business whatever formation !. hahaha
    The only upset in the WC so far is………….me !………..I`m fcuking upset we haven`t bought any of my SQ yet !.

  19. The Cockie Monster says:

    What like that !…… cheers gays !……guys !……….bastards !….why didn`t you tell me this years ago !. hahaha

  20. James Bond says:

    and it’s a success !

    ahahahahhahahahahahahha

    PS : good luck skipper and enjoy the game, I reckon your world cup journey may come to an end today.

  21. The Cockie Monster says:

    I shall do a few miles on the treadmill whilst rooting for……..The Oranje !…….3-0 to The Oranje and a Van Pussy life threatening injury !………just kidding…..or was I ?. hahaha

  22. TotalArsenal says:

    Cockie, I like your pairs a lot and yes Quadrado is fantastic…. A young Rijkaard and not just the looks! 🙂

  23. TotalArsenal says:

    Nah James, you ain’t see nothing yet! 😉

  24. RA says:

    Hammy Bond (apparently all the James’s are calling themselves that these days – a la Rodriguez) 🙂

    You almost gave me a heart attack at 16:28 when I thought you had been taken over by that Cockie Monster and spoke just like him. I mean you are bad enough on your own – but as Cockie mark 2, the world would shudder.

    It does explain that whenever I go down to Cornwall the mirrors are covered in gross slobber – both of you?? No! 😀

  25. RA says:

    More of the inevitable onward march of the Oranges – and bloody RvP — just wait until the Apples get going!! 🙂

  26. 17highburyterrace says:

    Sooo…. This is interesting…75th minute agua break and Mexico are still clinging to their 1 goal margin… The tacticians will have to give me the word, but it seemed to me that Holland’s set up invited some good possession and shots between the lines and central while not creating much as Mexico were able to stay organized. The early loss of De Jong perhaps was also critical… Since the goal it’s been a bit of luck for the Mexican and the continuing good fortune (magic?) of the curly haired keeper…

    Now RvP off for Huntelaar…

  27. 17highburyterrace says:

    Sneijder equalizes with an unstoppable blast… It was a lovely dream while it lasted…

  28. The Cockie Monster says:

    It was only a matter of time before The Oranje won !. Soon as The Mexicans scored they went on the defensive allowing Holland to continuously attack and Robben was nailed on to get a penalty, he`s so fcuking dangerous !. I`m sure Holland had more players on the pitch by the end of the game as the Mexicans were off trying to illegally enter the US of A via Seventeenho`s safe house !.
    Come on Oranje, after 3 finals you deserve to be Champs !. Just like Arsenal are the best team to never win the CL, the Dutch are the best team to never win the WC !.

  29. The Cockie Monster says:

    That last remark will score heavy on the brownie points with Totes and probably get me my own paid column !. hahaha

  30. AB says:

    Good call earlier today JB – the Oranje were very, very lucky; not that Mexico had enough in them to go far in the tournament. Mexico just ceded too much once they were in the lead and it always looked possible that they would concede from a set piece. Its a shame for all that the winner came from the act of a diving cheat sadly – Robben should have been booked earlier for one of his swallow dives, which might have made him think twice before his final one; infuriating that he has to behave like this when he has so much talent to draw on without cheating.

    All the transfer optimism is a bit worrying for me. I’m hopeful, just as I was last season, but with all the top names we are linked with now (and knowing after Ozil that we can spend truly big) I feel in danger of getting sucked in for a big let down. Here’s hoping we are lining folk up for a big splash with the sponsors, not just playing pocket until the last day to see what we might grab on a discount then…

  31. TotalArsenal says:

    Cheers Cockie 🙂

    We deserved that equaliser and it wouLd have been a crime if we went out like that, but it was very cruel on the Mexicans in the end. They deserved another 30 min at least.

    We gave them too much respect and almost paid for it, and the heat will have played a role in this. So Gerry you were right about the climate benefiting the American teams. Phew, lucky escape.

    AB, it was a pen. Robben made the most of it, but he was fouled. He is a dick, though. 😕

  32. TotalArsenal says:

    Good Luck with the penalties, Terry 🙂

  33. TotalArsenal says:

    Wasnt to be Terry, a tragedy. 😦

    Well done Campbell for slotting his pen in.

  34. omgarsenal says:

    Cannot agree with most of your conclusions TA, especially your contention that our Football has deteriorated since Cesc. In actual fact, what has deteriorated is our ability to have a fully fit team for the entire season and the officials’ commitment to ensurer we get the harshest treatment from the bully boys in the EPL, without any protection or recourse.
    I am not convinced that Van Gaal’s 3-5-2 would survive the EPL hothouse where most teams play counter-attacking Football after parking the bus for 89 minutes. It takes great discipline to play 5 across the midfield and even better coordination with the back 3. While it does shut down those teams that depend on midfield ball control, it also exposes the back line to intense pressure should the midfielders get caught napping on a quick break.
    Arsenal have the players to try such a formation BUT Wenger’s philosophy is not synonymous with defensive football and when players are used to one system, it takes them many months to adapt to another and even a season or two before it becomes natural….next season is NOT the time to try such a change.

  35. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Thank you TA

    Yes, another Greek tragedy.

    A splendid night for Greek goats though, who lived in fear that a Greek win would involve a celebratory kebab.

    When Greece won the Euros TA, my fat cousin Kleanthous celebrated so hard that during his cardiac arrest rather than the paramedics ressucitate him, they yanked a fully grown goat out of his stomach.

    The fat bastard survived, and the goat, despite been covered in salad and envoloped in pitta bread, made a full recovery

    Congratulations Costa Rica

  36. Admir says:

    Perhaps the best scenario would be if Holland win World Cup, Louis Van Gaal gets trophy in his hands, then beat the crap out of Robben with it and gets sacked by Manure due to prison time he’d serve for beating Robben.

    Congrats, TA. 🙂 Deserved victory, it was Herrera’s lack of balls that gave your team a life-line and Robben, arguably the best player of the tournament so far (yes, yes, I agree, James Rodriguez has been brilliant but he has more team-mates to rely on), can always make a chance out of nothing.

    Greece… From the moment they failed to score that counter-attack (5 on 2!), they were doomed. Plus, their goalkeeper couldn’t save a penalty even if Costa Rica fans were taking it.

  37. JM says:

    World Cup 2014 bulletin (as of 29 June):

    Adidas – 48 pts (Argentina /9, Colombia /12, Mexico /7, Germany /7, Nigeria /4, Russia /2, Japan /1, Spain /3, Bosnia and Herzegovina /3)

    Nike – 45 pts (Brazil /8, Netherlands /12, France /7, United States /4, South Korea /1, Croatia /3, Greece /5, Portugal /4, England /1)

    Puma – 30 pts (Côte d’Ivoire /3, Chile /7, Italy /3, Switzerland /6, Uruguay /6, Ghana /1, Algeria /4)

    Burrda – 9 pts (Belgium /9)

    Lotto – 8 pts (Costa Rica /8)

    Marathon – 4 pts (Ecuador /4)

    Uhlsport – 1 pt (Iran /1)

    =================

    France vs Nigeria
    Referee: Mark Geiger (United States)

    Germany vs Algeria
    Referee: Sandro Ricci (Brazil)

    Argentina vs Switzerland
    Referee: Jonas Eriksson (Sweden)

    Belgium vs United States
    Referee: Djamel Haimoudi (Algeria)

    =================

  38. Gerry says:

    Well, last night was not the hyper activity in play that we have seen before, but nail biting stuff nevertheless.

    Would it have been different had the ‘high boots’ penalty claim for the Mexicans been given, and a possible 2.0 lead? I think not. If they were going to try and ‘have what they held’ from earlier in the game, the Dutch onslaught would have gone on for longer. I say onslaught, but a game that was reduced to walking pace in the middle of the park does not quite reflect that?

    As you say Totes, the Mexicans probably would not have gone much further? Next round may be, but against the more clinical big boys, probably not. It may be the same stumbling block for the Netherlands too? Mind, I think they ought to take a blood test on Robben. How can a guy who looks in his 30’s, born in a flat country near sea level, run quicker in 38degs of heat that players who should be used to it?
    But if they find anything, give it to the whole Costa Rican side, they are going to need it!

    Yes, THAT one was a penalty. The replay clearly shows the boot came down on the end of Robben’s right foot. But had he missed it, I would still think we would have got the dying swan theatrical anyway?

    So with yet another late goal putting out a team, it seems this WC is intent on adding cruelty to losing sides … So how would Costa do …

    Very much in the same vein. Denied a handball penalty claim, clinging on to a 1-0 lead just, thanks to some brilliant goalkeeping, and as their bench were preparing to celebrate another amazing victory, robbed in the second minute of injury time. How cruel was that?

    Fair play to the Greeks, they never stopped trying. I missed the sending off, so it was well into extra time that the commentators mentioned it, before I could fully understand why they looked out on their feet. But Boy, did they defend well?

    Then came the penalties. The first 8 were excellent given the exhausting game they had both played. But whilst all the other takers had come up, placed the ball, and had a face full of concentration, this one from the Greek player showed a more air of confidence than concentration. It proved his undoing. Along with an excellent save, and the follow up kick from the Costa man, who dispatch his with precision, despite the pressure of the occasion.
    This time, justice was done, and it was the men from Greece who suffered the cruelty.

    I don’t know why I have just written all that, you all saw it for yourselves 🙄

  39. RA says:

    Still a good summary, Gerry.

    Campbell was on his own for much of the game and looked totally burned out towards the end of the 90 minutes, and how he managed to have the guts to put his hand up for a penalty kick and score I do not know.

    They will be too tired to make the next round match against Holland a proper match, especially with the self confessed diver, Robben. Brilliant player – and shit.

  40. jgc says:

    TA et al

    First, a big phewwww for the Oranje, and the Ticos get past Princes fave team!

    Second, on the actual post. Well I’m not a formation nut that way. Simple answer is that tiki taka works if there’s space. Whenever you clog one area you, by definition, open another. It’s the reaching it or having motion to get the ball region to region on the pitch. Spain couldn’t see or do it and failed.. Simple.

    There are only 11 players per side, so if I’ve got numbers in one area, you’ve got them elsewhere.. Hence, counter attacking is just that, the sudden reversal of numbers from turnover and rapid region to region (forward) pass(es) creating favorable numbers and opportunities to fast to be matched.

    I like, this past year, 4-5-1 for arsenal for one simple reason. We are stocked with great mids, when healthy, have a solid defense of 4 including the 2 irreplaceable a in the middle, and short on oire strikers. Why would you take out one of Koz/BFG for perhaps lesser total contribution up front…?

    Get a serious de Jong like DM and a mobile second striker, then in some situations/teams I’m more than open to 4-3-3 or 3-5-2 even…

    Last, was pleased with US Germany. Have to hope shutting down Hazard will do for Belgium thou. Doable for US but a long shot.

    Cheers — jgc

  41. TotalArsenal says:

    Hahaha Terry, a lucky escape for the goats… Ooh my goats! 🙂

  42. TotalArsenal says:

    Cheers Admir 🙂

    Robben is a brilliant shit and yes he is making the big difference. There is hope for ageing, hair deprived man (Terry)!

    It ain’t pretty and it ain’t good, but the Dutch have finally learned how to win ugly and that is the best they can do right now, it seems.

  43. TotalArsenal says:

    JM, which boot colour is scoring the most goals this tournament?

  44. TotalArsenal says:

    Gerry, good call about the blood test for Robben. 🙂

    I reckon scoring the winner in last year’s CL final gave him this final bid of confidence that he has arrived at the top level, and he is in a fit period right now, and he knows this is his last WC. Plus that miss against Spain four years ago created a hole that needs filling. Apart from the diving, which he acknowledged and apologised for, he is absolutely brilliant. Let’s hope he’ll stop the diving now….. Nah won’t happen.

  45. TotalArsenal says:

    Redders, what did you make of Joel? Isn’t he the ideal back up for Giroud?

  46. TotalArsenal says:

    Interesting, Geoff. Will get back to you later. Are you back home now?

  47. JM says:

    @ TotalArsenal, June 30, 2014 at 09:34
    “JM, which boot colour is scoring the most goals this tournament?”

    Most effective (or deadliest) pair of boots (on the right players) in this World Cup:

    F50 adizero FG Battle Pack Boots (Adidas) –
    wore by James Rodriguez (5 goals), Lionel Messi (4 goals), Thomas Müller (4 goals), Arjen Robben (3 goals).

    Messi has his personalised version.

  48. RA says:

    Hi TA,

    I am sure that JC will make a very good addition to our front line, and at his age he is still getting into his stride.

    Hopefully, Arsene will still go for a fast winger to compliment Theo as the lack of pace last season proved critical in the end — Cuadrado or di Maria?

    This current Holland team are not the ‘total football’ purists of yesteryear, but they are hanging in there and who knows where they will end up. Happy for you tho’. 🙂

  49. Gerry says:

    Nice one JM.

    ha ha TA, I bet you were not expecting a reply to that one?

  50. The Cockie Monster says:

    What`s with the Oranje background ?. 😀

  51. JM says:

    @Gerry, June 30, 2014 at 10:56

    We have to surely notice the best/better marksmen in this WC and their “Arsenal” (i.e. footwear). They are using the Adidas’ Brazuca match ball too. The clean contact between boot & match ball (Adidas) might have helped with the power & precision of the shots towards goal. (e.g. James’s goal of the tournament volley, Messi’s free-kick goal, Müller’s hat-trick etc)

  52. The Cockie Monster says:

    I don’t give a monkey`s what boots our players play in as it wont make the slightest difference…………apart from our DM Beast !…..I have designed some award winning PUMA steel toe-capped hobnail boots for extra pain !. I shall test drive them on Wengers Jacobs if he doesn`t buy some SQ pronto !.
    The Bastard is strolling around Rio beaches impressing the Latin Ladeez with wads of dosh stuffed down his Froggy Smugglers

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrU4goWCAAAvny1.jpg:large

  53. TotalArsenal says:

    Excellent JM, I will check out the colours myself! 🙂

  54. TotalArsenal says:

    Agreed RA. I like the way he can play with his back towards the goal, shield the ball and turn into space with pace and excellent forward passing…. And all under pressure.

  55. TotalArsenal says:

    Cockie 🙂

    Good to see Arsene looking relaxed. All business must be done already! 😉

    Do you like the Oranje glow? I thought after yesterday’s hoodoo vibes of JB and co I needed to bring back some positivity hahaha 😛

  56. VCC says:

    Don’t like the Orange Totes.

  57. Gerry says:

    Just digressing from the post topic a moment ….

    Perhaps we should not be too alarmed if players do leave in this window, given the expectation of new arrivals. In a post yesterday, Jorge Bird was going over the ages of our non-homegrown players, and suggested that Ryo Myiachi and Samuel Galindo would be casualties, as we have only one space left on the EPL squad list if they were retained?

    Not quite as bad as it might sound, as he was putting all our over 21’s who are not home-grown on the list. But those two look like adding to the clear out?

    Today he tells us that the new Dutch Academy director takes over tomorrow, and the Academy players are due back for training. His main task is to prepare the youngsters better, both at their own level of playing, but more specifically at getting better quality ready to drop into the first team if required.

    This transfer window could be the last where we buy more than one or two ‘ready made’ players each season, if he is successful? It seem a likely first candidate is David Henen, an 18 year old Belgian who can play anywhere across the front three. At 6′.1″ his main position in in the middle. A bit more pressure on Chuba Akpom to stake his claim in pre-season if this transfer is to go through? I suspect there will be one or two others that will come under scrutiny too, which is no bad thing?

    From other headlines, it seems my warnings of not expecting too much too soon from JC this early part of the season is also being said. I think it is more about building his core strength up in the way that Sanogo worked on, is what will make the biggest difference. The lad has had three quick games at a high intensity level, and it has shown on his performances. But that does not hide the skill level he possesses. He will be a big hit, but he is not ready to do 90 minutes week in week out at the moment. Luckily we have who can share that load with him.

  58. The Cockie Monster says:

    I`m OK with the Orange as it`s Holland for the cup now England are out !. I like to watch any team with Gooners in it ( as long as they dont get injured ) and will root for the French, Germans and Costa Rica. Although Holland are Goonerless, it`s where God was born and my mate Piet was born in Holland ( although he came to England as a 3 year old and doesn`t speak a word of Dutch ! ) plus as I said yesterday, they deserve a WC .

    PS……..no cheques please !. hahaha

  59. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    I to like the orange TA. It reminds me of the time when during the winter months I turn ghostly white so to aid my pulling prowess in the local disco I overdo the fake tan

    White shoes, flared trousers, red shirt with large collar, hairy chest, medallion, Englebert Humperdick wig, all combined with an orange complexion is a tremendous aphrodisiac to women.

    I normally charge for the above information, but since I like you all, consider it a freebie.

  60. 17highburyterrace says:

    That’s gold, Terry, gold… I’m gonna run with that advice… Cheers! 😀

    I enjoyed yesterday’s matches even if I missed parts of the 2nd due to a trip to the beach and then a quick nap on the couch. I didn’t give a ton of hope for the Costa Ricans to hold out after the sending off but the Greek finishing plus terrible corners plus some nice keeping plus Campbell really looking a fighter as a forward outlet and they got to pens. I’m really developing a fondness for Jo-el (Camp-bell, who might play for Arsen-el…) He looks small and walks around like he’s already beaten, but when the ball comes his way he springs into action nicely. (He may need to keep his feet a bit more in England.) Between Yaya and Serge G. and him we’ve got some very nice young talent up front. Now we need to see who can take their chances…

    Being in South America I was expecting plenty of diving in this tournament. That the best of the lot is a bald fellow who doesn’t wait for the contact is a bit disheartening, but there you go. A lot is being made of Van Gaal and his tactical changes as well as Mexico taking off the Barca/Spud baby-faced goal scorer too early. Like JGC (the professor) I’m not so big on formations being the key to everything but I thought it was a mistake for Holland to cede so much territory early on as much as it was a mistake for Mexico to do likewise w/o a real pace threat (Dos Santos or Jimenez, who didn’t play at all) late on. That it came down to a bit of luck plus technique (the ball falling to the immobile but technically great Sneijder) and the most experienced Mexican (Marquez) getting lured into fouling the floppy fellow seemed awfully lucky for the Orange people. Costa Rica *should* be a good draw for them in the quarters, but that’s what Italy and Uruguay thought in the group…

    France-Nigeria kicking off and our boys are playing, plus ALL the routinely linked players. Debuchy starts over Sagna, Cabaye preferred as the deepest lying MF with two others noted for playing in that manner (Matuidi and Pogba). Also interesting that Victor Moses (who has fallen a bit–Chelsea to the Pool bench…) gets a chance for the African team…

  61. 17highburyterrace says:

    Anybody watching? This one is a cracker, thus far… What a volley that was from Pogba a minute ago with a(nother) great save from the Nigerian Keeper…

    Giroud doing better hold up work than shooting and he really seems to work well with the man-child (Valbuena). I still don’t know why Debuchy (whose poor clearance almost turned to a Nigerian goal but for a very tight offside flag…) is preferred to Sagna…

    The more “realistic” (i.e., lower priced) links are on the French bench. Griezmann and Remy might come on if they need goals, Schneiderlin if they want even more defense… That latter one (along with Alexis Sanchez) was supposed to be a “done deal” over the weekend according to the faster and looser media outlets…

    Maybe when the tournament slows down we’ll get our first 3 or 4 announcements (Beachside, Wenger in his blue swimsuit, the new bodies in their Puma kits?…) In the meantime, this one’s back and forth and both teams are going for it…

  62. TotalArsenal says:

    Another gem, Terry 🙂

  63. 17highburyterrace says:

    Half time. Very enjoyable match with only Moses trying to cheat the American ref. (His handball should’ve gotten a yellow, I think…) Giroud on a much better wavelength with Valbuena than Benzema. What a monster Pogba looks even if his final passes also aren’t quite working… Kos and Varane are great defending in the middle but Evra and Debuchy seem less convincing…

  64. 17highburyterrace says:

    Slow start to the 2nd half with injuries to both teams. Matuidi might’ve been shown red for a bad ankle stomp. Good thing they’ve got the American ref. In our football the rosters are 45 men deep and they all play…

    At the other end, Varane takes a ball to the face and Pogba steps in at CB while he jogs it off. Boy oh boy, that big fellow would be fun at Arsenal (and a little poke at Sir Alex and ManU for letting him go)…

    A CB we already have confidently heads over his own goal to give a corner… I love you, Laurent…

  65. 17highburyterrace says:

    Nobody to watch w/me 😦 …

    Griezmann in for Ollie on the hour and makes a couple of brilliant passes w/Benz (whose passes aren’t nearly as good)…The latter *almost* finishes but Enyeama does enough for a ball to be cleared off the line…

    Cabaye misses by millimeters after more Benz work cleared from the goal mouth. France are the better team but this could go either way…Extra time seems likely…

    NOPE…Keeper doesn’t do enough and Pogba calmly heads into the open goal… 1-nil

    Should be a frenetic final 10 mins…but maybe too many Nigerians have been hurt or gotten tired by this point…

  66. The Cockie Monster says:

    Griezmann and Pogba, both on my list ……..The Cockie Files !. If Arsene Wonga has any sense he will have a look at…..The Cockie Files !.

  67. 17highburyterrace says:

    Nigeria offer very little and France don’t even use their final two subs, instead killing the clock with their own pressure and lots of corners and finally a Griezmann move which forces an own goal… He (and Pogba) have been very impressive. For me they would represent the sort of SQ we should be after if we’re shopping in the top brackets… Big Arsenal interest in the next round assuming Germany can get past Algeria tomorrow… Poldolski (our other big money guy–besides Ozil…) injured (again…) for that one?…

  68. The Cockie Monster says:

    Let me list The Cockie Files again, so you lovers of average talent know what SQ is !.

    Shaqiri
    Bernard
    Vidal
    Sanchez
    Pogba
    Griezmann
    Reus
    Kroos
    Gotze
    Isco
    Barkley
    Cuadrado
    The Rod

    Now go and have a wank !. hahaha

  69. 17highburyterrace says:

    Haha…Cockie, I actually think you and I are on the same page about what we should be looking for in terms of “Super-Quality.” IMO it’s a shame that so many young, really good, players (Isco, Goetze, Shaquiri, etc.) go into the shadow squads of the giant clubs. I fear, on today’s performance, Griezmann will be the next one headed towards Madrid (as back-up for Di Maria?). But maybe that means Morata our way…Or shouldn’t I mention him (Gerry)…Here come all the links… heheheheheh as Henry might say. Where is that guy and what does HE think of his Oranje?…

  70. The Cockie Monster says:

    Where are the perennial listers of top SQ ?…..HH, JB, AFC, Dylan !.
    Also, where the fcuk is Fozzie and Alex ?.

  71. The Cockie Monster says:

    True 7eventeen !…….a lot of talented players are held in reserve by some clubs, but hey, we are rich and an iconic club if ever there was one and who in their right mind would not want to play for …The Arse ?.

  72. The Cockie Monster says:

    Oh and you can add Di Maria to the list and Morata as potential SQ !. Just need some boring bastard to pick out the goalies and defenders to add to the list !. hahaha

  73. The Cockie Monster says:

    Just seen Duck Rodgers on Sky Sports and Lallana has had a medical and Duck Rodgers says there will be more signings for the scouse gits !. Bit more transparent than our heel draggers and so early as well !.

  74. 17highburyterrace says:

    Cockie…I fear that some of our younger guys and others who believe we should Hoover up ALL the (attacking) talent are either a) a bit too realistic (and know we can’t have them all so it’s, in the end, a little depressing…) or, b) a bit too realistic and know that Stingy Stan and his management team won’t get into bidding wars with the money-down-a-hole clubs, or c) are put off by the fact we didn’t take Cesc (and/or Vela…) back–guys we KNOW can play the game from having watched them and get down about the “hoarding our money” narrative. It’s also possible that (like you) they are insane dreamers and simply have gone off to other corners of the interweb where curmudgeons like myself, do not hold forth every few days… It could also be that they’re out enjoying their Summers…. HH, I think has a job. He’s also got a wife (which means no reason to have a job-winky wink…) so maybe “better” things to do, or something…

    You’ve got me (and others, maybe…) pegged. I believe we have more issues at the back and a little under the radar or PSQ (Potential Super Quality) is what we need and just one or two who might come (spectacularly) good with the boys we’ve (already) got could be the way forward. We might get more bang for our buck (as we say) if we spread the risk around. Diversification is step one in building your long term wealth portfolio, they tell me, on the sites where people respond to my investment questions… If you cannot put guys like Ozil, Rambo and even (maybe) Theo, Jack and Ox on your list, I think you’re seeing a bit too much angry red than the good kind…A little JC and Gnabry and even Yaya (look out if he ever scores that first goal…) could even get a little twitch going, for some, with the right attitude…maybe?…

    Anyhow, as always, I don’t mean to be a downer… (And, in truth, no matter what the people say, I’m very upbeat about all things Arsenal…) but there you go…Gotta run… Back for a little Messi probing of holes in the (Swiss) cheese…

  75. TotalArsenal says:

    Good signing tor Pool, Lalana.

    You still on hols, Cocker? And how is the missus?

  76. The Cockie Monster says:

    I like the term PSQ, 17 !…..when you come back, you can may be do a list, no ?. 😀
    I only want a few from my list, 17…..not every single one !. hahaha
    However, I have a feeling we will buy ones who are not on my list and are not SQ or maybe PSQ !.

    Another week off Totes, bought a nice Oranje T-Shirt in St Ives and it helped The Oranje win ! ( more brownie points hahaha ) although I just had a voicemail from work thinking I`m back tomorrow !…..fcuking tough !……I`m not going back again, that would be the 4th time I`ve come off my holidays to help them out !. Once was so that another employee could go on their holidays !……too much a nice guy and soft , that’s me !. hahaha
    Off to the hospital for results on Wednesday, so fingers crossed !.

  77. TotalArsenal says:

    You are the man Cocker. I have a 1974 long sleeve Johan Cruijff training jacket in Oranje and a 2006 shirt. My favourite Oranje outfit is the 1978 orange shorts, with white long-sleeved shirt with orange stripes…unfortunately not in my possession.

    Hope results will be good for her and you can both feel better about it all. Keep the faith. 🙂

  78. proudgooner says:

    Time for Ozil to show us and the world what he has got. 🙂

  79. 17highburyterrace says:

    I guess I’m confused…I didn’t realize Germany was going today,.. Glad to see, however… Not as confused as Luis Suarez…The crawl says he’s now apologized for biting Chiellini and vows never to do it again… :rolly eyes: :chompy teeth: 😀

    Cockie, I don’t mean to be a wet blanket (never good unless it’s all oil…) but I really don’t want to worry too much about who might be coming to the club. Obviously, the young Colombians look very sharp. Greizmann impressed today but France, I think, wore them down and the loss of their MF with the ankle injury was a real blow. Victor Moses could be headed back to Wigan based on today’s showing. That’s the sort of signing we need to avoid… Pogba was a dominant force out there….Is he ready to be our record signing? That’s the sort of money it would require, I fear and I really don’t see us getting into that territory this Summer.

    I’ve probably said this before, but most of the Cules I met believed that it was the three signings Pep made–Ibra, Sanchez and Cesc that killed off the beauty (and glory) of what they had before (with Henry and Eto’o alongside, Messi, Iniesta and Xavi). As such, I’m much less convinced about Sanchez, though I can see a wide/free role second striker rotation with Theo and Santi being extremely effective. He might have to work pretty hard to adjust to English football where going down at the slightest touch is frowned upon… Still, mouthwatering, I think…

    I was kinda hoping to see both Remy and Schneiderlien today. They may be less than SQ but could help plug some obvious holes for us… Latest reports also say Debuchy to us, Aurier to Spurs, but I prefer the latter based on just the couple of games I saw with Cote d’ivoire. I guess the former is already used to playing in England, however…

    Anyhow, I hope there’s good news re: hospital tests and also maybe in the transfer/torture window (sooner than later, to ease you back into your van-demon-de-moan?-ium)… Good luck with all that…

    TA, what did your daughter think of yesterday’s match? I’m trying to get my boy to watch the Arsenal guys (on the German squad, but he’s got a device in hand, so probably only replays if I shout loud enough)…

    Game on…

  80. proudgooner says:

    TCM,
    Fingers crossed here 2, hope the mrs gets good news and feels better.

  81. 17highburyterrace says:

    First ball in the net for Algeria but just a fraction offside…Per and Boateng look (VERY) vulnerable on the break. German 5 (or 6 if you add Mueller) MF not clicking…

  82. VCC says:

    Hi 17ht….Germany back line look vulnerable….Can Algeria keep the intensity up though?

  83. TotalArsenal says:

    17, She is happy enough but did not watch the game with much interest. She rather watches non Holland games as she thinks I am too loud/involved hahaha

  84. TotalArsenal says:

    The love for football is starting to develop though 🙂

  85. TotalArsenal says:

    Great, great game of football…. It looks like an Autumn CL game to some extent.

  86. The Cockie Monster says:

    Thanks guys . 🙂

    Very un- Germanesque half !. Algeria must have been watching a few Arsenal vids to be so wise on Captain Slow at the back for Germany !. No recognised FB`s for the Krauts and the only one playing is playing as DM !. Means no wing backs, no wingers and no pace !……are Germany a team of 4 CB`s and 6 midfielders ?.

  87. The Cockie Monster says:

    And Neuer plays as a sweeper !.

  88. 17highburyterrace says:

    Yeah, TA, my boy can’t quite do it but he’s into this one as I narrate it… Of course, I’m also talking about the bigger picture (7 BM players tonight but the tika taka isn’t doing enough to tire out the Algerians…) and keeping a spotlight on our brilliant but maligned Germans (Ozil for his introverted perfectionism and poor body language and BFG for his positioning vs immobility)…

    Ref’s allowing a lot of play but both teams are not abusing the situation–which makes for a great match even w/o the goals…Germans are missing Lu-lu quite a bit (IMO) as Lahm isn’t a natural at going forward. Schurrle and Goetze are good young players but they might need Klose to go for the all time record…

    There goes Stuart Robson giving Ozil more stick for not being able to take a pass in the meter of space between two defenders…

    Algerians need Brahimi, I think…

  89. 17highburyterrace says:

    Mustafi out with a hammy so maybe that moves Lahm back to RB and Khedira can come in as a mid…Might actually work better than the original plan, I think…

  90. TotalArsenal says:

    Schweini went close there. Germans just don’t control the game though and one moment of genius or luck by the Algerians and it could over. Germans pressing now.

  91. 17highburyterrace says:

    Neuer is a nut, but so far, so good…

    Brahimi in to try and nick one in regular time…Very nice from Mueller but Schweinie header wide… Between yawns my kid says the suspense is killing him…

    Khedira to Mueller but saved! Better now…

  92. TotalArsenal says:

    Muller tried a Bergkamp hahaha

  93. 17highburyterrace says:

    Mueller–what a take-down but might’ve pulled back for Ozil instead of shooting…Ozil, a moment later, might’ve done better going for goal himself…

    Time-wasting now…

  94. TotalArsenal says:

    Hahaha einfach verruckt!

  95. 17highburyterrace says:

    Dive and dink routine not one they’ll want to watch on replay…

    Neuer at the center circle!!!!

  96. 17highburyterrace says:

    Commentators saying it was Neuer’s 18th time out of the box… My kid is fine with ET… 🙂

    Not enough neck on that one Basty…

  97. TotalArsenal says:

    He is a good boy, Seventeenho. Offer him some pretzels and a Pepsi! 🙂

  98. The Cockie Monster says:

    Goalie cum sweeper !……two for the price of one, if he wasn`t at BM, I`d say buy him !……and I don`t do goalies, that`s JB`s expertise area !. 😆

  99. 17highburyterrace says:

    Extra time it is… Both keepers (almost playing in the same box) have been great…German attack definitely missing that little something–Mandzukic and Robben, perhaps, even if the one isn’t extra special and the other is a diving cheat… Anyhow, very little getting done on stuff around the house, but plenty of fun, I think… Klose on after 15 if still nil-nil? Maybe for Ozil, if the Germans remember his pen from the 1st leg w/Bayern…

    Heheh TA, it’s tea time around here, but I’d offer him a beer. He insists he won’t drink with me until he’s 21 and then only once… Damn goody two-shoes…(Is that an English or American expression?…)

  100. 17highburyterrace says:

    Meuller to Schurrle and Algeria are up against it now… Replay shows a little touch on the ball and Schurrle very good to get a foot back to it…

  101. TotalArsenal says:

    Great finish and attack.

  102. The Cockie Monster says:

    It`s tea time in Tahoe and there`s some grumpy `squatches waiting for 17 to come out and play !. The young `squatches kwow him as ….El Wonka….the man with the choccies !. hahaha

  103. TotalArsenal says:

    He won’t last that long, 17… Soon you’ll be squeezing beer cans hahaha

  104. 17highburyterrace says:

    Ozil…Pull back = fail… “Lack of confidence,” declares Robson…To his credit he doesn’t include “waste of money” and “Disappointment for Germany and Arsenal,”… this time…

  105. The Cockie Monster says:

    Fcuk !……writing my comment has made me miss the goal…..you bastards ! . 👿

  106. 17highburyterrace says:

    I know, I know, TA… Our community has enough drug and alcohol addled parents (and others) not to mention all the “anti” propaganda in the schools that he’ll probably be a little slower on the uptake than I was growing up in Berkeley…

    BIG chance to equalize from the set piece but wide…”Don’t scream.” says Clydie…

  107. TotalArsenal says:

    Robson is a grumpy dick.

  108. TotalArsenal says:

    Know what you mean, my daughter never wants to go to McDonalds hahaha

  109. 17highburyterrace says:

    Injury time of extra time over so now we have half time and this thing seems over though Algeria must get some hope from the corner kick…

    I like East London but those guys who finish up at West Ham (I’m thinking of Freddie…) seem a little bitter towards the Arsenal. “Grumpy Dick,” seems a good euphemism for the married man who maybe isn’t getting enough attention at home but lacks the savoir faire of someone like our Terry… Robson has waxed poetic now on Schurrle’s pace… lol…

    Brahimi, colorful pants exposed, hits the free kick a little to directly at Neuer…

  110. 17highburyterrace says:

    Too, I meant… Old man Schweinie gets the sub… Not over yet but almost…France vs Germany seems like it could be a good one…

  111. TotalArsenal says:

    Nice for Ozil, pinpoint finish this time.

  112. TotalArsenal says:

    Wow good attack and goal and one minute to go.

  113. TotalArsenal says:

    Three South American teams, three European teams through. Switzerland and USA to follow?

  114. JM says:

    World Cup 2014 bulletin (as of 30 June):

    Adidas – 51 pts (Argentina /9, Colombia /12, Mexico /7, Germany /10, Nigeria /4, Russia /2, Japan /1, Spain /3, Bosnia and Herzegovina /3)

    Nike – 48 pts (Brazil /8, Netherlands /12, France /10, United States /4, South Korea /1, Croatia /3, Greece /5, Portugal /4, England /1)

    Puma – 30 pts (Côte d’Ivoire /3, Chile /7, Italy /3, Switzerland /6, Uruguay /6, Ghana /1, Algeria /4)

    Burrda – 9 pts (Belgium /9)

    Lotto – 8 pts (Costa Rica /8)

    Marathon – 4 pts (Ecuador /4)

    Uhlsport – 1 pt (Iran /1)

    =================

  115. 17highburyterrace says:

    Boateng with a very nice tackle to stop a 1 v1 and Algeria appear done… Ozil finishes it…

    Two fine 2-nils today and should set up a great QF..

    “Mesut Ozil hasn’t had a good match…Schurrle sets him up and his touch isn’t good but it just falls nicely for him and he (at least) puts his foot through it”… Says Grumpy Dick

    Oops… 2-1 I guess… A switch off for the Germans at the end or just a sign of the fight in the Algerians?… Messy’s got some new ink, it appears as the shirts are exchanged…

    Germany might need a little re-think, but France maybe had the easier of the African teams today… The strong tournament continues…

    Night night all you late-nighters…

  116. JM says:

    6 out of 8 group stage leaders through.
    2 places left in QFs for Argentina & Belgium (if they are up for it).

    Argentina vs Switzerland
    Referee: Jonas Eriksson (Sweden)

    Belgium vs United States
    Referee: Djamel Haimoudi (Algeria)

    =================

  117. 17highburyterrace says:

    You can probably get some good odds on the Swiss, a little bit less on the US, but BIG money on the double, I would guess, TA…

    JM, tell me more about the shoes… Here’s a review on the hightops for those of you who play from my guy up in Tacoma…

  118. JM says:

    @17highburyterrace, June 30, 2014 at 23:42
    The Adidas boots?

    F50 adizero FG* Battle Pack Boots
    11Pro FG* Battle Pack Boots
    Predator Instinct FG* Battle Pack Boots
    Nitrocharge 1.0 FG* Battle Pack Boots

    FG* – Firm Ground

    The above boots reviews are available online from various sources.
    e.g.
    http://www.soccerbible.com/performance/football-boots/2014/05/adidas-predator-instinct-10-things-you-need-to-know/

    http://www.sr4unews.com/2014/05/12/adidas-battle-pack-adizero-predator-lz-3-nitrocharge-messi-f50-11pro-unveiled/

  119. JM says:

    @TotalArsenal, June 30, 2014 at 23:36
    “Three South American teams, three European teams through. Switzerland and USA to follow?”

    That’s 1 from CONCACAF – North, Central America & the Carribeans (shout out to Costa Rica), 2 from CONMEBOL & 3 from UEFA currently.

    Argentina could still make that 3rd representative from South America.

  120. Gerry says:

    Mmmmn? Not such a good night for ‘our boys’ it has to be said.

    Worryingly, it could be a repeat showing in the coming league … unless?

    Algeria certainly went for Per as a weak link. But he still came through it, shaken but not stirred.
    To a lesser extent, so was Ozil, but it usually took three to dispossess him. But loose passing under pressure was often the result. However, 120 minutes of continuous running finally paid off for Mesut.
    Overall it was another plus for gritty teamwork and plenty of pace versus expensive talent, and the latter can be grateful that they too had team unity and stamina to survive.
    That was physically tough, and given the short gaps between matches, I think it must be advantage France?

    Here too, the underdogs went close, but could not find the composure or quality in the final ball. For Arsenal fans, it was an exposure as to why Benzema is on my ‘not coming list? Great player, but just cannot hit it off with Giroud. Played much better when Giro was subbed, just to emphasise the point. However, Giro and Valbueno was a different matter, and if we were looking for a cheaper version of Cesc, he would be on the short list?

    It took a while, but France did get the goal in normal time, and it was a late own goal that kept the ‘cruel’ theme running. Not that the Nigerians were ever looking like levelling it with 5 minutes to go. But stranger things can happen, just ask the Greeks. It was not the greatest performance by the referee either, as decisions favoured the French on more than one occasion. It also seemed that when he knew he had made a mistake he would overlook a more blatant foul the other way? Biased or incompetent will depend on which side you favour, but from my point of view I think there was a fair handful of both? Although, that said, credit the assistants on good calls, some very close calls too, on the off sides, which replays fully supported their decisions.

    With the final two matches tonight, it is hard not to think that Argentina will have had the easier route to the semi’s, but with the Netherlands game also looking straightforward, against the underdogs Costa Rica, who were heroic in their last game, but that effort will surely take its toll? Will conditions make the difference?

    Meanwhile in the top half, it is an all South American battle, and their opponents will likely come out of yet another hard fought match. It is not going to be easy to reach the final from this half of the draw for whichever European side gets through? Injuries are beginning to stack up too?
    Still, this WC has been a great success for football, side issues apart, and the final will be between opponents who have fully earned their right to be there.

  121. Gerry says:

    Well the ‘Window is open … I hope our medical team are on standby 😀

  122. TotalArsenal says:

    Nice summary of last night’s games, Gerriander. And fully agreed on Ozil and Mertesacker and Giroud/Benzema. What did you make of Koz’s performance?

  123. Gerry says:

    Kos? Yes, I forgot him. Mainly because they got very little past him. I dread to think how embarrassed the French would be if he hadn’t have played? 😀

  124. Dylan says:

    Hello everyone! After the depressing saga with both Sagna and Fabregas turning their back on the club I lost faith with the club a little bit for a brief while. But I have realized it is for the best and I am happy and back now! 🙂 I’m all caught up in terms of reading posts and comments but I haven’t given my opinion on lots of rumors so I feel inclined to. So here we go.
    Alexis Sanchez-I would be happy but I think we could do with a more out and out striker.
    Arturo Vidal-The beast of a DM we need but unlikely given jus £44m price tag.
    Khedira-More likely and Ozil’s best friend. It’d be a fantastic deal.
    Di Maria-Amazing player and I’d be very happy to sign him, but do we need another winger?
    Aurier-Great athlete and very young. Would be the perfect Sagna replacement.
    Debuchy-Doesn’t really impress me at all.

    Also my main striker target this summer was Michy Batshuayi for all those wondering. He has signed for some French club (Marseille?) which is disappointing but acceptable. There are better options out there.

  125. Admir says:

    May I just say that God created Stewart Robson so Piers Morgan has some competition for being the biggest c..t out there?

  126. Gerry says:

    Welcome back Dylan. 😀

    So you had a touch of the … errr, what shall I call it? Ah yes….

    Totally Angry Talking Everything Sescy ‘ Sagna otherwise known as ..
    TOTES’s disease?

    Let’s hope we all don’t come down with it at the end of this TW … 😀

    Talking of which, that is a mighty fine list you have put together.
    I am not sure the budget would run to Sanchez, Khedira( I am glad you spelt it right, I was too lazy to check ::) ), and Di Maria though?

    Agreed on the RB pair too, and HT will be happy. I think Debuchy is another distraction.

    I too had Batshuayi down as a cheap alternative, but I disagree on winger v striker. Sanchez is surely the 2nd striker we need, but pace on the left is a must?

    Others will disagree though

    😀

  127. proudgooner says:

    Dylan,
    Pleased you have got past the Cesc and Sagna saga, f** em, is what i say 🙂 lol

    The striker target who Wenger has in mind.???
    I have not got a single clue tbh. I really don’t and that is ok, or is it? I will back my man Wenger, as we are watching the world cup and like nearly all, most will view it as a shopping display. But i hope Wenger either finds his man there or has hie eye on a player who’s nation did not qualify at all and will be fresh for a new season. Either way he does need to please the fans this window.
    Those who know me from here know i always stick up for Wenger, but i must admit that after seeing Chelsea sign Costa and Cesc.
    United Shaw and the midfielder.
    Liverpool Lalana and Lambert.
    That i am feeling they have all strengthened and we are still yet too. That it makes even me wonder.
    But i am keeping the faith! We all know Wenger does the TW’s in his own way.
    Plus the way the club announced on the official site that they will be 11 players leaving this summer , that it seems that that is all that will be leaving. That is great news for me. As i feel we are already very close to having the team to win the EPL.
    Wenger has also always said that he will only buy players that he thinks will improve on the player in any which position that he already has.
    In truth i also think if all our strikers stay fit then we really do hve a dangerous attack. Need i name them ? Not really but its always nice to see the names written out.
    Walcott, Podolski, Giroud, Sanogo,, TheOX,Joel Campbell, Ryo, Serge Gnabry
    Not to shabby i am sure you will agree.

    I see Francis Coquelin has returned, i can’t remember who i was chatting to thought he had left but he returns to us.
    Him Djourou and Joel Cambell have all been added to the official sites team.

    Also it clearlly points out we only have 1 keeper , so we may possibly get 2.??
    The defence is light on numbers also.

  128. TotalArsenal says:

    Welcome back Dylan, you have been missed. 🙂

    Argentina made hard work of the Swiss and it goes to show how hard it is to progress in this world cup. The countries are getting closer and closer, even though the favourites all somehow marched on.

  129. proudgooner says:

    Does anyone know anything about Podolski thigh injury?
    It is not a serious 1 is it? I hope not, we need him.

  130. TotalArsenal says:

    dont think it is too serious, pg….

  131. proudgooner says:

    Good to hear TotalArsenal.
    Tim Howard was great then for USA.
    I would not mind him at Arsenal,
    It is quite exciting really on the transfer front, we know Wenger has to buy for many positions. We will just have to be a little patient .
    Buy Begavic, Jovatic would still be a nice signing, City did nothing but bad so far for him.

  132. proudgooner says:

    Carlos Tevez is 30, now he would be great for us, but he won’t return to England
    A fully fit , injury free season Theo Walcott could well be our man, we just need him to stay fit. He is now a man

    1 nil Belgium.

  133. AFC says:

    Beasley has been amazing at LB. Man of the match for me. He has been bombing up and down the left flank all night. And the guy is 32 and a winger!

  134. geoffchase says:

    2-0 as US press… then 2-1!!! and pressure… One team will go out but no ones lost…. jgc

  135. JM says:

    World Cup 2014 bulletin (as of 01 July):

    Adidas – 54 pts (Argentina /12, Colombia /12, Mexico /7, Germany /10, Nigeria /4, Russia /2, Japan /1, Spain /3, Bosnia and Herzegovina /3)

    Nike – 48 pts (Brazil /8, Netherlands /12, France /10, United States /4, South Korea /1, Croatia /3, Greece /5, Portugal /4, England /1)

    Puma – 30 pts (Côte d’Ivoire /3, Chile /7, Italy /3, Switzerland /6, Uruguay /6, Ghana /1, Algeria /4)

    Burrda – 12 pts (Belgium /12)

    Lotto – 8 pts (Costa Rica /8)

    Marathon – 4 pts (Ecuador /4)

    Uhlsport – 1 pt (Iran /1)

    =================

  136. JM says:

    No surprises, 8 out of 8 group stage leaders all into quarter-finals.

    1 from CONCACAF, 3 from CONMEBOL & 4 from UEFA.

  137. Gerry says:

    I thought last nights games were a bit deja vu all over again?

    There was Di Maria, hard working but barely able to get anything right in the passing department, but just like Ozil, he puts away a late goal so his team could breathe a sigh of relief.

    Mind, it could be argued that the Swiss may have deserved more? They pressed and harried, and really only needed to take their chances and they could have been in the last 8? Yes, they also had a successful large bus parked for much of the time too. As a spectacle of football skills, well least said about that the better, as Argentina were probably the bigger culprits in the misplaced, obvious, and over-hit passes of the two. Particularly balls into the box.
    But the winners go through and the underdogs have a few ‘if only’ moments to reflect upon.

    Just a word on Djourou. He has been out on loan in Germany, and when we sign replacement(s) he will probably return of a ‘free’. He can do some things surprisingly well, but is a liability at others. Not someone AW wants to waste a squad place on methinks?
    The Swiss striker who got subbed, was of interest a while back. Remember AW’s trip to Geneva? On this performance I doubt AW will make another trip there, unless he sees more potential in the lad?

    Second match was a bit ‘Rocky’-ish. I’ve not seen the films so I cannot tell you which number is the most appropriate, but this too went to the wire, with both teams slugging it out to almost a standstill. At least this one had a fair measure of skill involved, and some individual performances were of heroic proportions. But the storyline here and that, by now, familiar ring to it, with the losers undone by their own bravery. So The ‘US of A’ team head home having done their country proud?
    I think the Belgians have a few questions to answer though. How can a team with so much talent in it, not play as well collectively. Yes, a lot was down to than undefinable team effort by their opponent in keeping them out. But tactically naive in the first half, with positional play, and final ball choices. If it had been me, I would have yanked both Fellaini and De Bruyne off at half time for their incompetence 😳
    However, keeping to the overall script of this WC movie, De Bruyne pops up with the winning goal, and Belgian blushes are saved. Given that Argentina had a big wake up call too, the next round will see who can improve the most, and get through to the semis? Or will it be ‘scrape through’ if neither can do any better?

    Enthralling stuff nevertheless.

  138. TotalArsenal says:

    Another good summary, Gerriander. The Swiss and Americans lacked top class attackers and that undid all the good team working and discipline. I am amazed, like you, how Belgium and especially Argentina, were unable to impose their superior quality onto the games.

    The quarter finals will be great, especially, from an Arsenal point a view, the battle between France and Germany.

  139. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Gerry, youve never seen the Rocky films??

    Take a break from the 3.45 at Uttoxeter and get watching man.

    You wont regret it. After watching those I almost got fit. Started running the mean streets of Bounds Green, ‘eye of the tiger’ blaring out, as a troupe of beautiful women jogged behind my toupee

    The magic only ended after I collapsed, thus requiring medical attention.

  140. jgc says:

    Gerry, TA and Terry

    IMO, USA are showing significant improvement under Klinsmann. They came out AND played against Belgium. And almost got it .. They’ve not got the quality across the pitch and are missing Altidore, but, that’s not … Yet.. Young guys in particular looked good, so future may be bright.

    IMO, and partisan-like, it was more USA not letting them than Belgium failing. Equally, I’ve noted that sit on hazard and the rest becomes less. Seemed true today. They gave Hazard no spare room….

    Happy with outcome…

    Terry: :-))))))

    Cheers — jgc

  141. geoffchase says:

    Ps : was on at 8 am here. Watched real time. Think neighbors may have filed noise complaint. On,y question, why aren’t they at work?!?

  142. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    USA played really well Prof.

    Theres no doubt that as football round the world progresses, the gap between nations narrows.

    In terms of fitness, tactics, and relative experience playing crucial matches, there’s nothing in it.

    As you say geoff, just that extra bit of quality seems to be the decisive factor.

  143. proudgooner says:

    News is we have agreed a deal with Newcastle for Debuchy.
    A deal for 12m is said to be the fee, the bookies have suspened betting on Arsenal’s first signing of the summer.Adding fuel to the fire that the deal has been struck and will be announced after the world cup.. 🙂
    I quite like the sound of it, he is a great little RB, he has kept Sagna on the bench the whole world cup so we stand in good stead in regards to getting a better replacement.

  144. TotalArsenal says:

    When watching a game on a ‘neutral’ basis it is a lot easier to analyse it than when watching the mighty red and white live. I had a strong sense that neither Switzerland or USA would score a goal during the 90-120 minutes but it is hard to tell why this was the case. It is not just a lack of quality up-front, but I reckon it had also to do with lack of experience of being in such a big tournament in an advanced stage and having ‘to make the kill’. I just sensed it was not there and it was the main reason, if not the only one, why both countries did not go through. Belgium suffered from the same though, but they scored first eventually, which made all the difference.

    A lot to build on though for both countries and next time round they might be even stronger.

  145. TotalArsenal says:

    I would not trust it, PG, until it is announed by Arsenal.com.

  146. 17highburyterrace says:

    I gotta agree Totes, on both accounts…That was a big miss by the Polish-American who’s played his football in Northern California… The chance by the Swiss fellow (Drmic)was even worse as there were multiple choices for him with the Argentine keeper indecisive himself…

    Busy, busy and I have to make up for all those good hours missed watching the footy…

    Not a ton of shame in both Mexico and the US going out to the two lowland countries in this past round.

    Here’s a long one if you’re into the stats and another reason it might be premature to write off the one man team… http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lionel-messi-is-impossible/

  147. The Cockie Monster says:

    Listen Fad Suckers !……..need an accountant here, but I don’t get the Debuchy thingy majig !……£12M and then the wages, why didn`t we just keep Sagna and pay him what he wanted for 3 years !, a 2 in 1 player we will miss !. Debuchy`s fee and wages will be more, No ?.
    Now we`ve gone from me having wild alcohol induced sex activities with Mrs Sagna whilst Bacary was away…..to some player I have no idea what his missus is like !.
    Fcuk Debuchy !….I want my Debauchery back !.

  148. Retsub says:

    Is it just me or is anyone else getting a little bored with the daily deluge of transfer rumours? There have been so many false dawns that frankly I take most of them with a pinch of salt.

    The one thing I don’t understand is why we allow teams to pay us instalments? I can understand why we would do it for Song, but if we wanted to keep Cesc so much why didn’t we demand cash up front? Sorry if it appears a naive question, but it seems crazy to me . For example Barca want Suarez and need to sell ,Sanchez to finance it. Liverpool want Sanchez as part exchange for Suarez, but Barca still owe us money for Song. We have supposedly put in a low bid for Sanchez to derail the Liverpool bid???? Frankly I am getting a headache.

    I am sure there is someone of greater intelligence than me who can throw some light on this chaos. Life used to be so simple

  149. The Cockie Monster says:

    ( Geordie accent ) Day 2, 7:12 pm in the BK Transfer Window House and Arsene has still not bought any SQ, he`s just having his Blue Froggy Smugglers removed by his personnel assistant rent-boy, Stevie Be.
    Arsene is laying naked counting his money from the Cesc and Carlos transfers, even though they left years ago !. He has a unique way of disposing of the unwanted coinage, he flicks the coins from his rock hard boner like a catapult into Stevie Be`s bullseye tattooed rectum .

  150. The Cockie Monster says:

    There are a few accountants on BK, Retsub !. I`m sure one of them could put you right, but they are also probably so bored with no transfer activity and have probably killed their selves and left their inheritance to Arsene !. hahaha

  151. davvydavy says:

    Arsene on the beach looks pretty relaxed and happy to me.

    He may well have completed his major signings, and perhaps now we all have to wait until the 10th, when we get to see the new signings wearing the new Puma kit as it is officially unveiled.

    Everything we are reading until then could be false!

  152. TotalArsenal says:

    You are on fine form tonight, Cocker of doom. I hope this means your fine, award winning wife got some good news today?

  153. TotalArsenal says:

    Retsub, just expect nothing then anything is a bonus. 😉

  154. The Cockie Monster says:

    Just the same old stuff Totes !. Keep taking the tablets and keep it under control and have check-ups every 6 weeks and at some time onto every 12 weeks !.
    To tell the truth, she`s better at dealing with it than I am and that’s a reason why I`m not allowed to go in to the meeting`s with her !….I`m an emotional kind of guy and I`d end up blubbing on the specialist, just like I did on the tattooist when I found out Isco was not coming to the Arse and went to Madrid for a paltry £25M !. hahaha

  155. The Cockie Monster says:

    Good theory Double D !…..lets hope if true, that they are what most of us would consider as SQ !.

  156. The Cockie Monster says:

    You know what I love about the German team ?……they are known as…” Die Mannschaft ! “. Which makes me giggle as VCC thinks it`s something similar to his dead cock !. I can just imagine his missus telling him to……put ” The Team ” back in his pants !.

  157. Cockie, no news is (probably) good news, health wise and (maybe) in the transfer market. Pity those Chavs locking up Cesc and Costa so early and now they’re stuck with those tika-taka 2 and out goofballs, (Torres actually probably got more of the playing time…) almost like Liverpool and all the Hodgson’s boys they seem to be hoovering up… Meanwhile we’ve got the wise one giving us nothing but flesh-shots (and smirks)…

    Gotta agree about Bac vs Debuchy, though I haven’t spied his missus… Economically there must be more upside and even people with a little on the line (Duchamps) seem to prefer the Tattooed Toonie… We probably aren’t that excited about him mostly because we know he’s been with such a pack of losers. Nobody liked Cabaye until PSG put down the money…

    Retsub, I’m no accountant (just a small town loan shark…) and it’s (ALWAYS) better to have the money and loan it out (as long as you’re able to collect…No broken fingers for me as I type out my posts)… My take on Barca finances is that much of it is fly by night and orchestrated by the big money guys in Catalonia who are into the football. 4 years ago (as they were tapping the crap out of our Cesc…) they couldn’t make payroll! We should be sitting in a good spot for landing Sanchez if that’s our aim for footballing purposes… To me, it’s pretty amazing that everybody (at Barca, at least) can put aside the biting so quickly. I guess Messi, Neymar and Shark-uez is just too exciting… Is there enough ball for all three?…

    The era of unlimited resources for wasting money, I keep believing, will slow down and might even (more or less) come to an end. Until then, whenever we–as supporters–get worked into a froth by players shopping themselves to the money wasting clubs, we’re actually playing into their hands. My hope is that we’re looking a little deeper and maybe off the radar for rising talents that haven’t “failed” elsewhere. Holding on to our boys is the most critical–but also most boring–part of TW. Another boring part is saving money and spending it wisely… Not of interest, if winning the TW is as important as the other comps…

    Of course when the Princes give the people titles AND lower ticket prices it’s hard to get behind our owner who seems not to care about the one while raising the other… At least we only have to look at the manager at the beach, rather than Stan who hides beneath his syrup and his stadium blanket…

  158. TotalArsenal says:

    Okay Cocker, that sounds reasonably positive.

    The Dutch word for mannschaft is elftal, which is also a synonym for your weener hahaha

  159. James Bond says:

    Debuchy is the perfect signing for us, if it indeed is a done deal.

    he is certainly a better RB than Sagna, provides much more going forward and if you don’t believe me then just look at the french national team where he’s the first choice ahead of Sagna , who could have been a club legend but instead chose to move onto ventures new.

    the only concern with Debuchy (not his tattoos) but his fitness – he is certainly in my top 2 top RB’s in England currently and at 28 years old, gives us another 2 or 3 years top of his game while the likes of Jenks and Bellerin develop further under his guidance.

    very happy with the alleged Debuchy signing – not sure why young Dylan isn’t happy ? what’s not to like – tell us ?

  160. AFC says:

    JB, I don’t think Debuchy would be a good signing like Dylan. As you say he is good going forward (better than Sagna) but is a bit dodgy when it comes to defending which could be a problem when needed to support Mert and fill in at CB for him during matches because of his lack of pace. Sagna used to do this very well and I am not convinced Debuchy would be able. Sagna and Zabaleta are better all round RBs than Debuchy in my opinion.

    £12 million for 29 year old Debuchy? Not for me.

    I’d rather have Aurier or Richards.

  161. The Cockie Monster says:

    Oh Oh Sevennn.
    Is he better than Aurier ?…..he cant be a better long term bet !. Aurier looks good now with the potential to be SQ and cheaper by all accounts !. Only downside I see is the African Cup !.

    How`s Jane settling in back at home ?.

  162. AFC says:

    Because of Mert’s lack of pace.

    Only reason I can see Wenger thinking he is perfect for our RB spot is because he is French.

    Sanchez would be a very good signing. I would prefer Di Maria though.

  163. The Cockie Monster says:

    Although he scored the winner last night, Di Maria gave the ball away over 50 times !. Sanchez has better stats for Barca and is cheaper than Di Maria, AFC !. Sanchez would give us a potential forward line to match Liverpool`s. Walcott, Sanchez, Ox and even Gnabry, all quick and skilful !.

  164. James Bond says:

    how is he a bit dodgy when defending in a team that’s no where near top notch ?

    look at his record when he has played with decent defenders and then tell me how his defensive capabilities are – if you play with dodgy defenders, then you look defensively fragile – however, play him with decent strikers aka Koc and PER and he’ll be an absolute ROCK and will give us that added thrust going forward – he’s an upgrade on Dani Alves and in the same mould for me.

    and no, it’s not for £12 million – don’t read everything you read online.

    Also, if he get’s 60 K or 75 k per week, it’s still great bloody business and a very fine replacement for Sagna – Aurier is a great prospect but we need someone who is already there and a ready made placement.

    so no more of this Potential talk and prospect talk – only ready made decent players or SQ players, Spank you very much !

    she is getting better and better – still quite a way to go until we reach the 100 day magic figure but slowly yet surely, we will get there 🙂 thanks for asking @ GLICS !

    so is it Ham-EZ Rodrigues that’s giving you sleepless nights these days or you still dream of ISCO 😀

  165. James Bond says:

    *decent defenders and not strikers, although KOC is a better striker than Giroud ahahahahhaahhaha

  166. AFC says:

    Cockie, I just think Di Maria would fill a bigger hole than Sanchez. Sanchez is mainly a RM/RW who can play ST and LM/LW and AM if needed. We have Walcott for the RW/ST position. We have no one like Di Maria. A crosser, dribbler, creative force who offer pace and high workrate on the left flank.

    He would cost more but would be worth it IMO.

  167. James Bond says:

    last but not least – Sanchez over Di Maria

    simply because I think that AW will convert Sanchez into a striker, that dynamite striker that we all crave so much at arsenal along the lines of Tevez, Aguero, Suarez even – hence you can see why Liverpool are so keen on getting Sanchez for Suarez as they would play him in the same role.

    under AW, Sanchez can be our SS and it would sort most of our problems out up front , I reckon

    it’s a great 3 in one signing with him playing anywhere across the front 3, as a pacey striker, as a false no.9.

    very happy with both Debuchy and Sanchez rumours !

    now let’s get POGBA in next ahahahahahahhahahahahaah

  168. AFC says:

    Ok JB. So why not Richards? How much do you think we could get Debuchy for? Surely he would cost a minimum of £8 million. So how many good seasons would we get out of him. One? Two? What about Dormund’s RB Piszczek?

  169. AFC says:

    JB, doesn’t Walcott want to play up front? Wouldn’t he get the chance to play up front before Sanchez if he were to join?

  170. The Cockie Monster says:

    Hahaha…..as long as it`s not you Hamez Bond with Q`s dodgy sex gadgets !.

  171. The Cockie Monster says:

    Exactly Hamez !…..just the way I see Sanchez operating for Arsenal…….just need to buy the bastard !.

    Come on AFC…..now your taking the Piszczek !.. 😀

  172. The Cockie Monster says:

    Give me Sanchez, Pogba and either Aurier or Debuchy, any goalie and I can get back to Debauchery !.

  173. AFC says:

    So where would guys play Sanchez. I am presuming LW or ST?

  174. AFC says:

    We still need a CB. I would take Caulker. If Vermaelen goes to United how about Smalling?

  175. AB says:

    Evening all. JB I’ve been agreeing with your comments a lot over the last week or so! Yes, Debuchy is not the sort of signing that gets me excited and jumping. But I totally agree, if we do buy him, that it will mark a significant shift in our buying of proven quality (if not SQ in this instance) over young potential. The guy is 2 years younger and has replaced Sagna in the national team – that should be enough for most people I would have thought? Aurier is more exciting potential, but much more suspect currently in defence – so how many points would that cost us next season?

    I’m very happy for us to debate our preferences between Di Maria and Sanchez – I will simply be delighted with either of them, as both are proper SQ for me. A basic observation, is that Sanchez is more of a goal scorer to Di Maria the assist maker. As we don’t have Bale and Ronaldo to convert the potential assists, but we do have creative midfielders, I would rather bank the extra goals than the extra possible assists! Either and I’m laughing. One of these plus a top DM (Khedira or Bender, or possible Sneiderlin) and we have a team to challenge for trophies in my book.

    I’m keeping everything crossed for the moment…

  176. The Cockie Monster says:

    Fcuk the TW players……what the fcuk is this yuk green background all about ?…….Totes, you haven’t been letting your missus muck about with Dulux colour chart again have you ?…….” This one will look nice on the kitchen wall darling ! “. 😀

  177. The Cockie Monster says:

    Di Maria : La Liga 34 games, 4 goals, 17 assists .
    Sanchez : La Liga 34 games, 19 goals, 11 assists.

  178. AFC says:

    AB, Walcott along with a new ST in the starting eleven would provide enough goals in the front four positions? Assists over goals for me. JGC would probably agree? Imagine Di Maria and Ozil providing assists for Walcott and a new ST. Unstoppable in my opinion. Sanchez would provide more goals but we would only have one primary assist player. AW likes to have a primary assist player and another assist player on the wing in a free role?

  179. AFC says:

    Cockie, think of the workrate and the other things Di Maria offers. This is why he can play as a CM. If we buy Sanchez we have less control in midfield as opposed to have Di Maria in there. Who would you guys say is stronger?

  180. The Cockie Monster says:

    AFC
    Sanchez does it both and has the work rate to match !.

  181. AB says:

    AFC. Either scenario a positive one for sure. But for one thing we have to see how Walcott comes back before we count his goals. And his injury record is not one that suggest there won’t be gaps in the season. And your also plan assumes that we have enough cash to buy Di Maria AND an SQ striker on top – I don’t know whether you are factoring in DM, RB, CB and GK in there as well or not. But I’m not sure this all adds up – unless you see Campbell or a Remy being the new striker? As above, I’d rather bank proven goal scoring as I think we have the assist potential already within our squad if we had to choose between them.

  182. AB says:

    Cockie, you are sounding downright upbeat. Have you been taking something, or are you on a promise….?

  183. The Cockie Monster says:

    Off to bed now , but one thing is for sure, AFC…….if we don’t get one of these two players reported tomorrow on newsnow, then I`m going to strangle Arsene`s froggy smugglers whether he`s wearing them or not !. hahaha

  184. AFC says:

    Cockie, I think the problem is is that they are two totally different players. Di Maria is a traditional winger whereas Sanchez is a hybrid RW/ST poacher. Both offer different things.

    Remember Di Maria played deeper in midfield (CM) last season whereas Sanchez was played further forward.

  185. The Cockie Monster says:

    AB
    It`s because I`m over the moon about Arsene posing in his froggy smugglers !. I now know it`s OK to pose in my Buggie Smugglers and not look ridiculous !…..thank you Arsene !…obviously the check-out girls in Tesco`s are not laughing at me, but at my chat up lines !.

  186. AFC says:

    AB, I am assuming buy a ST as well. If Wenger is only going to sign one player who can play anywhere along the frontline then I would go for Sanchez. I have suggested Caulker above for CB who would be a cheap option. GK any cheap experienced one will do.

    For me AW has to buy a SQ ST and a SQ DM. A player in the winger type should be SQ as well in my opinion. The rest can be good solid signings. Young CB, experienced GK and youngish RB. 2/3 SQ players and 2/3 good players and I will be happy.

    No one really knows what our budget is. The £100 mill is media speculation? I believe we can easily spend up to £150 mill but that might just be me.

  187. AFC says:

    Nite Cockie. 😀

  188. davydavy says:

    I’m guessing that, if the Debuchy story is correct, Monsieur Wenger would have received first-hand scouting reports from Oliver Giroud and Laurent Koscielny. Without their endorsement there would very probably be zero interest from Arsenal.

    I agree with the view that Aurier looks the better prospect, but we won’t be going into a deal for any French players without knowing exactly what we are getting.

    Out of Di Maria and Alexis Sanchez, there’s little doubt that Sanchez has been the more impressive player at this World Cup, even though Chile have played tougher opponents than Argentina and I also wonder what price Real Madrid are demanding for Di Maria. Could Sanchez be used as a central striker? I am not so sure that he would work in the ST role, but I would be more than happy to see Marco Reus joining us as an ST that’s for sure. And it would mean two Cockie Listers joining us, which would be fantastic!

  189. Gerry says:

    Well last night’s match was just not on! What is wrong with the organisers of the WC. They give us 4 matches a day in the beginning, then two a day, and it’s on every night, and then ….
    Nothing!

    So it is back to a debate about players we haven’t got … hilarious.

    However, to join in with this theoretical discussion … starting with RB.

    Too many assumptions are being made about what is being said in the media and how it is being interpreted by them. Just because AW says an announcement will be made after the WC in response to questions, the assumption is because the playing is still playing out there? This might also be quite valid, as, if such agreement has been reached then it would be understandable that the player does not want to be distracted by questions. Even though the above response does generate more so, than a ‘We have not yet sign anybody(to replace Sagna)’? The other key statement was, regards Debuchy, ‘It is not a done deal’.
    That gives the club room to pursue other options, and just my be, get a decision on demands from elsewhere? I am guessing that Aurier has been asking for more in wages than AW was prepared to go? However, if it was a choice between Coleman(Everton) and Debuchy, then I would favour the latter. Micah Richards injury record does not bear thinking about, given the demands we put on our full backs?
    The Sagna debate ( for Retsub) was lost very early on. In one of the last comments Sagna gave, was that he had not had a pay rise since he signed on £60k per week. That is a lot in real terms, but a footballer’s working life is probably around a third of most working people’s, and half of that can they expect to be in the top bracket? So 7 years on £20k isn’t that much. Even less in relative terms to his fellow defenders. So how insulting was it, when coming to the end of his contract, he is expecting a rise and an extension to be told ‘ No you are too old for a 3 year deal, but you can have a 2 year one on the SAME money’
    That is when Bacary Sagna decided he needed a change of scenery, imo.

    I am with AB on buying a 28 year old does seem strange, but I don’t think it has anything to do with ‘not blocking the path of Jenks or Bellerin’. It is purely that they can get him for £60k + for three years and write off most of the fee at the end of it.

    Sanchez or Di Maria? Theoretical debate, but it is about availability. The former will only come if the Suarez switch takes place on a cash only basis, not a swap.
    The latter is a class act no matter what the stats say. He occupies defenders. He wants to leave, they want rid. Therefore available, at a price. Anything less than the £40m and he is a bargain, imo. But as JM has been keen to point out, we can afford the fee, is is the contract length on a high wage that is the killer. If he would sign at something similar to Ozil then no real problem. He is not pushing the spiral any higher.

    Sanchez wages on the other hand, would be a top earner. Minimum £150k I would have thought?
    JB has it spot on regards his position. Second striker full stop. The only query I would make on that, is where is the conversion? In our system where we employ 11 players in defence at times, and the 4-5-1 formation allows flexibility as to who goes forwards out of defence, he is made for the job. No conversion necessary?

    So of the two, Sanchez is ahead in terms of need. AFC, get real if you are thinking of a striker as as well as. You are just going to have to accept that Giro is it. Purchases now are being made to bring out the best of him and Ozil. Forget these tired stories of how J. Martinez ‘would love to play for Arsenal, the club he supports’. He said that two years ago, and it did not work then. Mandzukic won’t be considered either, apart from the fact he would want a bigger wage than we can sustain right now.

    Giroud and Sanchez is a match made in heaven. Di Maria may not be excluded either if that goes through. But if that is the case, it will mean scrimping on other possible signings, particularly in defence. Hence Debuchy?

  190. AFC says:

    Gerry, then I think I would rather have a ST than Sanchez. If we buy Sanchez you think we will go into next season with a strikeforce of Giroud, Campbell and Sanogo? That strikeforce is not good enough to win the league. Like VCC I think we need to bring in a more mobile and clinical finisher to displace Giroud from our starting line-up.

    I also found it weird that we would buy a 28 year old RB turning 29.

  191. AFC says:

    We already have the likes of Wilshere and Ox who could play LM/LW and make that spot their own.

  192. VCC says:

    AFC….I agree with you. If Wenger was to buy an almost 29 year old, why not keep a proven player in Sagna?

    If Wenger is unwilling to purchase a SQ ST, why not give Campbell a try up front. He would be different, and I saw enough of him in this world cup to have pace and power that would trouble most central defenders. Whether he has the desire is another thing. Worth a try in my book.

    What’s happening/happened to Ryo Miachi? any one know?

  193. AFC says:

    VCC, I think Ryo is done at Arsenal. He hasn’t developed like AW has wanted? He is over 21 and would have to take a squad spot next season. I think he will be loaned out or sold just like Coquelin. The same goes for Coquelin too in my opinion.

  194. AFC says:

    VCC, I think the big problem is that last TW we really didn’t address any of our needs. Yes we got Ozil. But an AM was one of the last things we needed. AW tried to do things the cheap way when it came to DM with Flamini and it didn’t really work. We didn’t sign a 4th CB which would have been a good time to do so etc. We are now in the market for a GK, RB, DM, ST and a one or two CBs. Even a LW although this is not really a priority.

  195. AFC says:

    Campbell up front might work. If we had more STs we could do a Chelsea and loan him out to another EPL club and get them to polish him for us like what Everton and West Brom have done with Arsenal. But we don’t. 😦

  196. AFC says:

    Some of what Wenger does leaves me baffed. Why buy Sanogo when you have Campbell and Akpom. Sanogo is 21 and will also have to take a squad space next season? Do we really want to young prospects taking up two valuable squad spots? Akpom is under 21 and wouldn’t take a squad spot.

  197. AFC says:

    Two young*

  198. AFC says:

    Like what Everton and West Brom have done with Lukaku.*

  199. VCC says:

    AFC……I can assure you that Arsene Wenger baffles me too. 🙂

    He refuses to address our problems and needs. He seems to have this insanely stubbornness about him. Over my dead body approach, I will do it my way and no one will change me attitude.

    Why OH why doesn’t he bite the bullet and get 2/3 SQ players in this window. Surely the penny has dropped by now, and he can see we are almost within touching distance of more silverware?????????

    As you rightly say, because of his refusal to up grade our squad, we now need GK..RB..DM..ST..CB….AW. That’s an awful lot of money.

  200. AFC says:

    True VCC. I guess we will never know what he is thinking.

  201. AFC says:

    Going back to Richards. As Gerry said playing at RB would put a lot of strain on him so why not buy him to play as a CB. He is strong, fast and has played at CB before on occasions. Didn’t a certain Kos used to be a RB? 😉 Switching Richards to CB could be a good move by Wenger and he wouldn’t cost a lot. What do you guys think?

  202. VCC says:

    AFC…the trouble with Richards is, he is too injury prone. We have enough trouble with the current crop of players.

    A fine player when fit though.

  203. Gerry says:

    I was interrupted in my post this morning when I collected a large Malamite dog who appeared outside my gate, owner-less. A quick walk with him soon reunited him with his owner, who was diving around looking for him.

    Back to the theoretical debate.

    AFC – Yes, I would consider Sanogo, Campbell, Gnabry, and Sanchez himself, as sufficient cover for Giro. But you are probably right, AW may just be thinking of someone else? The point about those three named above, they are likely to put away chances … if we give them the right service. And that is why you need pace down the left? However, much will depend on how each perform in the pre-season friendlies, and in particular, the Community Shield. There will still be another couple of weeks before the window closes, should it be required.

    The real pressure will be on Campbell. If he looks at all suspect then they may just cash in. I personally doubt that will happen, and I think his agent chatter is purely to get him a better long term deal? Sanogo still has time to go out on loan if needed. As you say, they will both need a squad place, where Gnabry and Akpom do not. But same would be true for an incoming striker, but neither of the young guns will be on a high wage. Oh, Sanogo was a ‘freebie’ last season. Given what he did in the Cup final, I’d say it was a shrewd bit of business? Akpom is going to have to really shine in the pre-season to find his place in the squad, but I said that about Campbell in the WC 😀

    Keeping on the theme of who else from our ranks could play on the left? You are right, there are several, but who can apply pace down that wing .. different matter? Only Ox could, aside from Gibbs. However, the likelihood of Santi feeling squeezed out by Sanchez and Ozil is also something to factor in, if he has somewhere to go to? When AW talks of having two strikers coming in, I think that is probably more a broad front line player, rather than ST? But we shall see.
    But whatever happens, I think only two incomers will be on £100k+, and if Sanchez has agreed a £130k deal as reported, we should wrap that up quickly with a second offer. The current one was just to be able to confirm with his agent that they could agree on figure. The next bid will be a serious one(I hope!).

    It does remain a problem of getting the right players in who will ‘settle’ for a wage structure, rather than them have the ‘little boy inside’ telling them to go for big money. I am hopeful that the Khedira ‘offer’ is another step in that right direction?

    GK will not be hard to find, as the names thrown around at the moment, if they don’t come here they might displace someone who will? All on £60k of course.

    FB’s? Again, young up and coming, but are still capable. Kurt Zouma type, who is off out on loan may regret his choice next season if he follows the pattern of Lukaku? But that would be the logical way to go, as they would be on the lower wage scale?

    RB looks to be solved regards wages, but don’t be surprised if it is not Debuchy. He may just be the back stop?

    That is my thinking, but you are welcome to yours … and the disappointment that follows? 😀

  204. AFC says:

    Gerry, I would be happy to see Sanchez and Khedira at Arsenal if we were only going to two big names as you say. I want to see us get those types of players as opposed to your Barry and Kalou type.

    Bellerin is also another young prospect. It might just be too early for him but he could play a few games next season. Zouma was a huge miss in my opinion but we cannot match the money Chelsea pay to their ‘youngsters’ (?) so I can understand us missing out on him.

    I’d take Debuchy. I think there are better options but I wouldn’t be that disappointed.

  205. TotalArsenal says:

    Great commenting guys 🙂

    Di Maria or Sanchez…. I have a strong, strong preference for one of them, but I will keep my powder dry and try and write something this evening (as we are desperate for a new post, yet the inbox remains empty…).

    Gerry, I am loving the typos today! 😛

    Laterz

  206. AFC says:

    Kroos is supposed to be off to Real. So that means Khedira may be available which is good news for Wenger.

    I think it is better for us to go for SQ players who clubs are willing to let go like Ozil, Cesc, Sanchez, Khedira, Di Maria, Balotelli, Mandzukic etc. When clubs want to cash in we can get SQ players for a good price which is remarkable in today’s market.

    It stops us paying stupid money and inflated prices for players like Pogba etc.

  207. Gerry says:

    Thanks TA – I see ‘diving’ where it should have been ‘driving’ – what else have I missed?

  208. Gerry says:

    AFC – Yes the are a long list of players being offered around, and at fees we could afford.
    But, I bring you back the their contract and the point JM made.
    Balotelli for example – reportedly a wage buster of £180 grand a week. It does not matter if Puma were willing to subsidise it. It is the inflation it causes when others want the same?

    That is what AW is working on. To get Sanchez to come for £130k is top accountancy at its best. If Vidal wants £200k that Man U might offer then we are not at the same auction.
    Pogba’s fee would not break us, as a player in isolation, but with other demands, not this time around. Aurier, if he is looking to start a £100k, then that is a no-goer too. QPR may have tried to save on the fee with a low bid, and failed. If we could persuade him to prove himself at EPL level first, then look for a rise, perhaps. The American, Yeldin would be another alternative, but both are where Bellerin should be in a couple of years?

    We are where we are re finances. Unless they get very strict with the FFP, I cannot see it altering as long as TV money keeps pouring in. This WC has done nothing to stop the rot there either. We had the luxury of Terrestrial TV(i.e. ‘free’) covering the lot. I have only glanced at BT Sport for a month now. So expect even higher bids in two years time for the Euros?

  209. Gerry says:

    TA – I could write a post on Malamites, and other dogs I’ve met and loved at first sight? 😀

  210. TotalArsenal says:

    Yeah the diving one was the funny one! 🙂
    Look at this one, Gerry:
    ‘because AW says an announcement will be made after the WC in response to questions, the assumption is because the playing is still playing out there?’

    You can write about anything as long as you link it back to Arsenal, Gerry! 🙂

  211. AFC says:

    TA, I should have a post on the WC ready for you soon. 🙂

  212. AFC says:

    Within the next couple of hours to be precise.

  213. TotalArsenal says:

    Excellent news, Sir AFC 🙂

  214. AFC says:

    TA, you should have mail. 🙂

  215. AFC says:

    Gerry @ 14:50 agreed.

  216. AFC,
    Regarding your question of why did Wenger not keep JC rather then loan him out and buy or sign Sanogo on a free.
    First he rates Sanogo very highly and has wanted him for a very long time.
    To anwser your question better though Joel Campbell could not get a work permit in England til now. So that was all Arsene could do to keep hold of him. So really what i am trying to say is he did very well, plus it gave Campbell time and expirence to get to a great level too.

  217. proudgooner says:

    AFC,
    Regarding your question of why did Wenger not keep JC rather then loan him out and buy or sign Sanogo on a free.
    First he rates Sanogo very highly and has wanted him for a very long time.
    To anwser your question better though Joel Campbell could not get a work permit in England til now. So that was all Arsene could do to keep hold of him. So really what i am trying to say is he did very well, plus it gave Campbell time and expirence to get to a great level too. 🙂

  218. proudgooner says:

    The Trannies are slow again at Arsenal so far, it also makes us Gooner anxious when we see all our top 4 – 5 making good signings.
    But what we learnt from last summers window was, we had to wait til big deals were completed to get our man Ozil. This could well be the same again so i am prepaired to be patient if need be.
    Word is Sanchez wants to join us instead of Liverpool which is good to hear.
    I am pretty sure we can land him with a strong cash offer.
    He is suppose to of said he refused to sign for Liverpool which is his right after all.
    He would be a fantastic signing for us
    Also 007’s man Jackson Martinez has also revealed he is a Gooner
    That is very interesting and both would be good and willing to give that extra effort for the club they love.
    Our of the 2 or 3 with Di Maria who is really really good as well, i would go for Sanchez myself

    We know he has to buy a keeper. The thing i am wondering is wil he go for a better keeper then Szcz or go for back up to him.
    I think we should go for better if we can, them extra few points at the end of a season could be massive.

  219. proudgooner says:

    Also i haft to say i am a little surprised how many of you don’t get mention Podolski when thinking about how we are going to line up next season.
    He is a world class striker. He is not your normal left winger. He is a striker that plays from the left and he has many goals in him and is in really good form.
    If all are fit even Podolski————–Giroud —————Walcott is a pretty strong line-up. No? lol 🙂

  220. Admir says:

    Hello, people.

    One question about tactics: has Manuel Neuer started a new tactical trend? His performance against Algeria and the one against Real Madrid at Munich might be a start of the future in which goalkeepers will be used as eleventh outfield player so the tactics in the future might be named as e.g. 3-5-2 and 1-3-5-2, depending on whether a certain manager will use his goalkeeper as a regular goalkeeper or a sweeper-keeper who will be heavily involved in the game. Of course, size of the pitch will make a sweeper-keeper role reduced to his own half.

  221. The Cockie Monster says:

    Yes Addders !.
    I did say the other night in confirmation of your comment that Neuer was playing as a sweeper, obviously me and you are more tactically advanced than the other bastards on BK !. hahaha

    Yes PG !……..you answered your own question ….no !. 🙂

  222. The Cockie Monster says:

    I really hope the rumours of us getting Sanchez are true as I have wanted him since he was at Udinese !. So not new to me as a SQ player .

  223. AFC says:

    I really don’t know Admir. We saw Lloris play the sweeper keeper role for Spurs last season. I think it could be very effective. Instead of the two CBs splitting and the DM slotting back in between them to make a back three the keeper could do that. At the moment when we play Kos and Mert split meanwhile the fullbacks bomb forward and Arteta normally drops deep sitting just in front of them, in between them. If we have a good GK who can pass and distribute the ball very well (not sure if Szez can) we could have our GK come out and make a back three with Kos and Mert allowing our midfielders to get further forward.

    I am not sure if I want Szez rushing out to make tackles like Neuer did in the Algeria game but I certainly wouldn’t mind him becoming part of a back three with Mert and Kos either side of him when we have possession deep in our own side of the pitch.

  224. proudgooner says:

    AFC,
    I think Szcz is good with his feet and could do the role.
    Only thing is Neuer could have easier made a mistake and got beat, he didn’t and everyone rates him but as soon as our keeper did it and got beat once everyone would slate him.
    It is a dangous tactic, i think its one you have instictively or not at all.
    Neuer did not it a lot in the last game,i am not sure the played that as a tactic or weather its something he just done. Maybe because that team were playing the long ball a lot.?
    TCM,
    He is a class act, i to hope its not but media BS time will tell. He is a the type of player we badly need.

  225. TotalArsenal says:

    Admir, Van Der Sar played that role under Van Gaal’s Ajax almost two decades ago. 😉

  226. AFC says:

    PG, I think Neuer was forced to do it because Mertesacker and Boateng were so for up the pitch, playing a high line and were not tracking back. If I was a keeper I would be shitting myself if I had slow Mertesacker so far up the pitch and Boateng (he is not the best when it comes to positioning) also up there.

    I would say we have a good chance of getting Sanchez. Only ourselves and Liverpool are in for him? I am confident of us beating Liverpool to his signature. He would be a lot easier to get than someone like Di Maria who more clubs seem to be interested in?

  227. AFC says:

    Far up*

  228. TotalArsenal says:

    New Post New Post 🙂

    AFC knows how to deal with the Terror Window….let’s talk WC footie! 🙂

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