Arsenal v Spurs: A Glorious History of Mashing The Spuddies

Arsenal v Tottenham – September 1st, 2019

Plumstead ground (1)

The two teams met for the first time in the United League November 9th 1896. The match took place at Woolwich Arsenal’s Manor Ground in Plumstead and Arsenal won, 2.1.

The United League was founded in 1896 to provide additional mid-week fixtures for teams drawn from a number of leagues including founder members, Woolwich Arsenal from the Football League, and Tottenham Hotspur from the Southern League.

The teams first met in a Division 1 Football League match on December 4th 1909 it was watched by a crowd of 18,000. Woolwich Arsenal won 1- 0 with Walter Henry Lawrence scoring their first league goal against Spurs.

Arsenal v Spurs All Time Home Games
Non League 4 1 2 11 10
Division 1 26 13 16 83 65
EPL 15 10 2 53 27
Total : 45 24 20 147 102

Some key games between the clubs.

Tottenham 0–1 Arsenal (3 May 1971) The final match of the 1970–71 league campaign, with Arsenal needing a win or a goalless draw to take the First Division title (a score draw would have meant Leeds United won on goal average). The game was tight with few real chances on goal, until the very end. With three minutes to go, John Radford’s shot forced Pat Jennings into a good save; George Armstrong got to the rebound and chipped the ball across goal and Ray Kennedy headed home the winner. Spurs desperately tried to get a goal back but to no avail; Arsenal held on to win the title (the first half of the Double that season).

“I tried, in vain, to get into White Hart Lane for many of our away games and I was desperate to get in to watch our title winning game on May 3rd 1971 but I was among the thousands left outside the ground – Erik the Red was a lot smarter than GN5”.

Tottenham 1–2 Arsenal (4 March 1987) Arsenal and Spurs had drawn 2–2 on aggregate in the League Cup semi-finals; with no away goals rule in force, the match was replayed at Spurs’ home ground of White Hart Lane. Spurs went 1–0 up through Clive Allen but Arsenal substitute Ian Allinson equalised and David Rocastle scrambled home the winner to send Arsenal through to the Final, where they won their first trophy since 1979.


Arsenal 1–0 Tottenham (4 April 1993 at Wembley) The second FA Cup semi-final between the two, in which Arsenal sought revenge over their North London rivals for the 3–1 semi-final defeat two years earlier. Tony Adams scored with a header from a Paul Merson free kick for the Gunners in the 79th minute; Arsenal prevailed despite Lee Dixon’s sending-off, and went on to win the FA Cup in May and complete the first ever domestic cup double.

Arsenal 2–1 Tottenham (8 April 2001 at Old Trafford) – the third FA Cup semi-final between the two. Gary Doherty gave Spurs the lead, before Patrick Vieira equalised for Arsenal. Robert Pires scored a second half winner to send Arsenal through to the first FA Cup final to be played outside England, where they lost 2–1 to Liverpool in Cardiff. 

Tottenham 2–2 Arsenal (25 April 2004) Arsenal were unbeaten in the Premier League and only needed a point to secure the title. The Gunners were 2–0 up after 35 minutes thanks to Patrick Vieira and Robert Pires’ goals. A famous win looked to be on the cards, but Spurs restored some pride by denying Arsenal victory; in the second half Jamie Redknapp scored from long-range, then Robbie Keane converted a 90th-minute penalty to give Arsenal their second and, as of 2018, last league championship won at their rivals’ home ground.

Arsenal 3–1 Tottenham a.e.t (31 January 2007) Arsenal booked their place in the 2007 League Cup Final, for the first time since winning the competition in 1993, after this extra-time victory. The teams drew the first leg 2–2 at White Hart Lane where Tottenham threw away a 2–0 first half lead, eventually drawing the game. The return leg game was goalless until the 77th minute when Emmanuel Adebayor gave Arsenal the lead, before Mido equalised for Tottenham five minutes from time. Jérémie Aliadière restored Arsenal’s lead in the 105th minute and the game was eventually won by Arsenal after a 113th minute own goal by Tottenham’s Pascal Chimbonda, sending Arsenal through to the final, 5–3 on aggregate. Arsenal, however, would eventually lose the final to Chelsea.

Arsenal V Tottenham EPL Home Games
Date W D L GF GA
11-May-93   1   1 1
06-Dec-93   1   1 1
29-Apr-95   1   0 0
15-Apr-96     1 1 3
24-Nov-96 1     3 1
30-Aug-97   1   0 0
14-Nov-98   1   0 0
19-Mar-00 1     2 1
31-Mar-01 1     2 0
06-Apr-02 1     2 1
16-Nov-02 1     3 0
08-Nov-03 1     2 1
25-Apr-05 1     1 0
22-Apr-06   1   1 1
02-Dec-06 1     3 0
22-Dec-07 1     2 1
29-Oct-08   1   4 4
31-Oct-09 1     3 0
20-Nov-10     1 2 3
26-Feb-12 1     5 2
17-Nov-12 1     5 2
01-Sep-13 1     1 0
27-Sep-14   1   1 1
08-Nov-15   1   1 1
06-Nov-16   1   1 1
18-Nov-17 1     2 0
02-Dec-18 1     4 2
Total: 15 10 2 53 27


Arsenal v Spurs All Time Home Games %
  W D L
Non League 57.1% 14.3% 28.6%
Division 1 47.3% 23.6% 29.1%
EPL 55.6% 37.0% 7.4%
Total : 45.5% 24.2% 20.2%


Spurs have only beaten us at home in the Premier League on two occasions namely April 15, 1996 and the last time on November 20th 2010 – we peeled the Spuds 4-2 on their last visit to the Emirates Stadium.

Home games are when we need our supporters to stand up and be counted; they must become the very vocal 12th man and create an intense/hostile atmosphere to spur our team to victory. I was at Highbury for dozens of games between the two clubs and perhaps surprisingly (for the younger supporters) I don’t recollect a lot of hostility between the two sets of supporters in the 40’and 50’s but that definitely changed in the 60’s when it started to get ugly.

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Sexy Pepe, Indispensable Torreira, Luiz Made a (good) Difference: 8 Observations v Pool

It has been a few days since we lost at Anfield, but it may still be worth making some observations (further to the very fine ones by Djifa/Gino in the previous post).

Mohamed Salah

Eight Observations from a game that simply came too early in the season for Emery:

  1. I liked Emery’s initial strategy of sitting back and playing with two fast and furious CFs, both positioned on the wings/away from each other to give the Pool defence something to think about. If and when we got the ball forward both Auba and Pepe used the available space well and they had decent chances to put us in front. A bit more sharpness and calm and they could each have scored. If they had done so, it could have been different. Setting his team up to absorb pressure and play on the break, Emery made a good tactical start with the team;
  2. But it remains to be seen whether scoring first would not have led to the same outcome: a thumping loss. Betis had a similar tactics v Barcelona this weekend and THEY did manage to score first… but they also still ended up losing big (5-2). Pool were clearly the better team both in terms of organisation and individual sharpness, and an early goal against them would probably have spurred them on even more. The issue I have from a tactical point of view is that before and after Pool scored their second goal, we did not see a meaningful Plan-B from Emery and the game was lost in just 10-15 minutes early on in the second half.  After the third goal Pool took the foot of the gas and we fought well to somehow get a goal back. But it was this ability of Pool to see the game out and to some extent play with us that I found most deflating (even though they conceded an avoidable goal late on).
  3. Now many have said that ‘Champions of Europe’, Pool, are a great team and were playing at home so let’s not be too hard on Emery. I respect that point of view. I did not expect us to win but wanted to see the tactical strength of Emery and his in-game tactical decision making; and although Emery made a promising start we withered away as the game went on and the full strength of our squad was never on display. It was also clear that Pool had targeted our right side (tactically) and especially AMN and Guendouzi were put under tremendous pressure to hold the fort… We somehow got away with our lack of defensive strength (numbers of players to prevent a breach of our wall there) but Emery should have intervened. This worried me but there is still time for Emery to get the tactical decisions right this season. And a big test awaits him against the canny Argentinian coach of our bitterest rivals this Sunday.
  4.  Luiz was good, almost great. I know he was involved in the second and third goal by Pool but David gave us structure, believe and leadership in defence. The penalty he gave away was a reflex, he said; and Salah would probably have scored if Luiz had not pulled him back (it was a quick and clever move by the Egyptian after all). I was actually impressed with Luiz for not making the foul on Salah for the third goal. I have no doubt that Koscielny (who?!) or Mustafi would have risked a foul/yellow card and have been sent off as a result. There was still time and space for his fellow defenders to block Salah but Big Sok hesitated for half a second and came too late to the rescue.
  5. Torreira is back and he looked awesome in our new away shirt. It was important to score a goal and not just for the away fans. We needed that sort of determination from the start and Lucas made a difference when he came on. Play Xhaka as our pivot and the indispensable Torreira next to him in each and every big game, is all I want to say (again and again).
  6. The big question to ask Emery is of course why did you not play the experienced midfielders of Torreira, Ozil and Mkhi in this game. Guendouzi, Willock and Ceballos were started instead and collectively they were well out of their league. If this is Emery’s attempt to put his own identity on the team – his trademark – he will be out of a job soon. Playing one of these players in an otherwise experienced team is okay, but all three is plain silly. when we face a team like Pool away. Xhaka-Guendouzi does not work: they do not complement each other at all. Willock tried hard to fill in the large spaces in midfield but was lost and poor Ceballos looked like the court jester. We did not display our full potential (and lost the game so easily) once again because of lack of balance in midfield, and Emery’s team selection choices remain a big concern.
  7. How sexy is the football of Pepe? He makes me think of Donna Summer but that’s for another post! It was nice to see Van Dijk being given a proper game by our new signing and he looks so determined to attack and destroy opponents. Ten games in, he would have scored at least once but he will need to settle in a bit more before we get the full value out of him.
  8.  The away support was great: made themselves heart throughout the game and stood right behind the team, and we are going to need this badly for the 17 remaining away games of course.

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With Allegri and Enrique Waiting in the Wings, Emery Better Heed the Storm

“Hey Unai, Wake Up. A Storm is brewing…”
Howdy Fellow Gooners!
It’s been a long while since I have written anything or posted any comment on here but I have faithfully continued to check in on my favourite football team, as always. After watching Saturday’s display, I tried to resist the temptation to be critical of many aspects of the game but my conscience ultimately got the better of me. So instead of focusing on the players, my initial observations squarely put our head coach Unai Emery in the hot seat.
Selection Decision:
Arsenal possess a luxury of talented and technical players capable of going toe-to-toe with any team in English Football (and even European Football) and getting a good result on their day. It is understandable that Emery likes to get the balance of the team right and play his brand of football. That is totally admirable and brave. However, in games against the best teams, you simply have to play your best players, period! Those teams are considered best not simply because of individual players, but as a collective, cohesive, and deadly unit. There’s no point having world class players like Lacazette and Ozil and not playing them from the start. Ozil didn’t even make the bench (assuming he is healthy and ready to play). A “bulldog” like Torreira also didn’t start in a game of this magnitude. That to me is wrong.
Tactical Game Plan:
Liverpool are a great defensive team, from front to back, with a dedicated group of players who feeds off their very passionate and energetic manager. One of their main strengths is their wingback play. Knowing this, why didn’t Emery set up our team with Lacazette in the middle to hold up play and invite others to join in the attack? Why not have Pepe and Aubameyang on the wings to occupy those two marauding Liverpool wingbacks? For a large part of the game, we had too many players behind the ball, constantly inviting Liverpool to attack. We are ARSENAL and we are know for playing a beautiful game, not passive football. We should have taken the game to Liverpool and given them a little taste of their own medicine. I believe we have quality players to achieve this, we just needed to believe in our abilities and play with passion and desire. I remember Emery saying last year when he got the job that he wouldn’t mind winning a game with a 5-4 score line. Against Liverpool, if the objective was to be mostly defensive and only rely on the counter, then we might as well have played with a back 5 (with Chambers in the mix).
Moving Forward:
I am not a head coach and I am not a master tactician, but in my humble opinion, we must play these big game with our best available players going forward. We don’t need to experiment any longer. With the attacking players that we currently have at our disposal, we should be aggressive and take the game to any opponent on any given day. I think Emery gets too worried about conceding goals and losing that he becomes overly calculating. Just set the players up to play good football and win the game. Preach and practice team defending and the rest will take care of itself. So for the upcoming NLD, I would like to see a front 3 of Aubameyang-Lacazette-Pepe with Ozil behind them. Torreira also needs to start next to either Xhaka or Ceballos. I know it is early season, but we need to start playing good football again. No more excuses. Let’s close the gap a little on Manchester City and Liverpool, whole putting Tottenham far in our rear view mirror. I believe we can do this this season. Though I think Emery got both tactics and selection wrong for Liverpool, he must quickly redeem himself against our bitter rivals. Failing to do so and losing in similar (or worse) fashion could signal the beginning of the end for Unai Emery at the Emirates, I fear. He is in season 2 of 3 and once supporters grow tired and turn on him, there would be no return. Not when a certain Max Allegri and a certain Luis Enrique are still available and waiting for Raul’s phone call.
Can Unai Emery see the slow-motion storm brewing on the horizon and do something about it now before it’s too late?
Please have your say and be courteous and respectful of others opinions.
Thank you and have a blessed day.
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Bergkampesque Live Blog, Liverpool-Arsenal. Emery Goes 4-2-3-1 with Two Changes; Pepe and Xhaka In

…Nelson and Lacazette out from the group that beat Burnley.

Record signing Nicolas Pepe joins youngsters Dani Ceballos, Joe Willock and Matteo Guendouzi in midfield with Captain Granit Xhaka tasked with organizing the lads against a far more experienced and very strong Liverpool group.

Here are the line-ups:

Arsenal: Leno, Maitland-Niles, Luiz, Papastathopoulos, Monreal, Guendouzi, Xhaka, Willock, Pepe, Aubameyang, Ceballos.

Subs: Mkhitaryan, Lacazette, Torreira, Chambers, Nelson, Martinez, Kolasinac.

Liverpool: Adrian, Alexander-Arnold, van Dijk, Matip, Robertson, Henderson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Salah, Firmino, Mane.

Subs: Milner, Gomez, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Shaqiri, Origi, Kelleher

Referee: Anthony Taylor (Cheshire)

A final note: Mesut Ozil, training all week, doesn’t even make the bench.  Has Arsenal management found a way to off-load the mercurial midfielder–and his massive salary?

What do YOU think of the line-ups and Arsenal’s chances at Anfield?

To me, though this is our first real challenge, it is also a bit of a “can’t lose” proposition for Arsenal manager Unai Emery.  Those early results plus big spending in the transfer window–and attendant noise from a new generation of ownership–has brought a feeling of renewed hope in the Goonersphere.  (Is it enough to allow the dumping of a player like Ozil–alongside the likes of Skhodran Mustafi and Mohamed Elneny?)  We shall see.  As long as we improve on the result from last season’s fixture (a brutal 5-1 loss–after we got the opener) surely our “Summer of Love” ought to continue.  And then there’s the hope that we might even do a bit better than that…

I’ll be hitting the espresso machine one last time and then I’ll do my best to describe the action.  I can ALWAYS use help, however, even if today’s game–here in California–will be in 4K.  Everybody sees things differently and your view is no worse than mine.  (We’ll see how I feel about the commentary team: Arlo White always wants to stoke controversy, while Lee Dixon does his best to not be seen as favoring Arsenal.  Graeme Le Saux rounds out the group and generally seems fairly insightful–to me.  Often, I find I need to shut off the sound…)

So, who will join me?  What will the match bring?  Share it here (in the comments)…

Go on then…

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Pepe, Auba, Laca (PALs) v Firmino, Mane, Salah: Fireworks at Anfield – Preview!


A lot of our Arsenal faithful are scared of this fixture, Liverpool at Anfield. Zero points there does not worry them. They are anxious of yet another pounding.

My best pal is a football guru. He knows the game of football so well. He happens to be a fanatical Liverpool supporter. He has thought over the call from several quarters that Emery should mirror the Liverpool team with these players that he has and he tells me that this fixture against Arsenal scares him to death. There you are, this world of opposites. I go for the bottom line: mutual respect.

Should Emery build his team in the image of Klopp’s Liverpool? Mane, Firmino, Salah: Auba, Laca, Chili Pepe. These front threes are of course the bases for these calls. Is it enough a base for such calls?

Salah and Pepe are so similar: direct, quick feet, strictly left footed, don’t need a back lift, wide right, love to cut inside. One though is 3 inches taller and better with his head.

Mane and Auba are no identical twins: Auba’s game is based on movement and positioning, a genius at getting at the end of things. If he is asked to expand his game by for example stationing him as a winger, he goes like a bee line. Mane, Auba’s supposed image is so difficult to define, but he is ubiquitous, troublesome and dangerous.

Firmino and Laca: they are both supposed to be the point men but both love playing deep. That’s maybe as far as they mirror themselves. Forget the name tag, Firmino is a midfielder. He loves joining in building up play. He is the overload that Klopp’s Liverpool use in dominating the central areas, but give him one tiny opening and he is in the box banging in the goal. Laca is more of a false 9 who has it all too but who when he gets the ball deep is consumed by the vision of the space between the woodwork. That makes him a lot more direct than Firmino.

Terrific front 3 for both teams, but they are no spitting image of each other, neither are the other areas of the team. Liverpool have a very hardworking midfield but they don’t have an Ozil or a Ceballos. Their creative midfielder Keita is out of this fixture. However the creativity they lack in the midfield they more than compensate for in their full backs, Trent Alexander-Arnold (12 assists 18/19), Andrew Robertson (11 assists). When I think about Liverpool, I don’t think about the so called FAB 3, I think about these two British boys and a certain hulky Dutchman.

Talking about the defensive aspect of their back line, suffice it to say that they are mean at conceding goals except that for this fixture there would be a certain bloke by name Adrian who isn’t very good with the ball at his feet. Our boys would do well to be all over him the first 10 minutes to damage the confidence of the team playing out of the back.

My friend, the football guru, fears that Liverpool are playing with a phobia. Not the fear of Arsenal or United or Watford, but the fear of losing points. They might as well not be participating in the EPL. They are in a nightmarish two-horse race with a hydra-headed monster who sits the best players in Europe on the bench. This phobia my friend says is affecting their game. Am tended to agree with him and if we can simply play our game, the outcome would be anybody’s guess. It is important for us to stay aware that Josh has buried the £40m-inferiority-complex in a 6ft deep grave.

The way I see it, Emery is not going to ape something else. Arsenal is on its own journey.

I might have missed a trick or two so Emery, maybe should set up like Liverpool. What do you think? Give us your preferred line up.

By PE.

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Arsenal v Liverpool Preview: We Need the Spirit of Arshavin to Bin the Scousers

Arsenal v Liverpool August 24, 2019

 Liverpool FC’s origins lie with their neighbours Everton. Founded in 1878, Everton moved to Anfield in 1884, a facility owned by the club’s president, John Houlding, a former Lord Mayor of Liverpool. In 1892 a dispute arose between Houlding and the Everton board of directors, over the club’s tenancy of the ground. The annual rent had risen from £100 in 1884 to £250 in 1892; Houlding wanted to sell the ground to the club, which in turn wished to agree a long-term rental. Houlding would only agree to this on the basis of a rent at a level unacceptable to the club.

Negotiations having failed, the directors decided to leave Anfield and find another ground, leaving Houlding with an empty stadium. His response was to form a new football club to occupy the stadium. He attempted to retain the team name “Everton” by registering the name “Everton Football Club and Athletic Grounds Company, Limited” with Companies House, but the Football League decided that the name belonged to the departed Everton club, which acquired new premises at Goodison Park. Houlding therefore adopted the name “Liverpool Football Club” for his new venture.


Liverpool have an inspirational manager in Jurgen Klopp; he literally drives Liverpool, his passionate antics on the touchline display his love for the game and he urges his team forward. His players have responded to his management style with their performances, which resulted in them winning the 2018/19 Champions League (their 6th) and finishing 2nd in the Premier League after losing only one game and ending up only one point behind the Champions – Manchester City.

We have a miserable away record at Anfield where we win only one out of every four games, currently we are on a six game winless streak our last victory (0-2) was on September 2nd 2012. One winless but very memorable game took place on April 21st, 2009 when Andrey Arshavin scored all four of our goals in a 4-4 draw.

I fear that our porous defence will once again be our Achilles heel at Anfield: we have conceded 22 goals in our last six visits, 9 in our last two.

I wish I could write something more positive but the difference between the two teams is very evident and our past record at Anfield speaks for itself. Liverpool also have, in my opinion, the best set of supporters in the Premier League.

Arsenal v Liverpool All – Away Games
Division W D L GF GA
Div 2 0 0 2 0 5
Div 1 18 11 37 75 125
EPL 6 8 13 31 59
Total : 24 19 52 106 189

Here is our complete Premier League record.

Arsenal v Liverpool EPL – Away Games
Date W D L GF GA
23-Aug-92 1     2 0
02-Oct-93   1   0 0
28-Aug-94     1 0 3
23-Dec-95     1 1 3
19-Aug-96     1 0 2
06-May-98     1 0 4
22-Aug-98   1   0 0
28-Aug-99     1 0 2
23-Dec-00     1 0 4
23-Dec-01 1     2 1
29-Jan-03   1   2 2
04-Oct-03 1     2 1
28-Nov-04     1 1 2
14-Feb-06     1 0 1
31-Mar-07     1 1 4
28-Oct-07   1   1 1
21-Apr-09   1   4 4
13-Dec-09 1     2 1
15-Aug-10   1   1 1
03-Mar-12 1     2 1
02-Sep-12 1     2 0
08-Feb-14     1 1 5
21-Dec-14   1   2 2
13-Jan-16   1   3 3
04-Mar-17     1 1 3
27-Aug-17     1 0 4
29-Dec-18     1 1 5
Total : 6 8 13 31 59

Regardless of the facts I still hope we see an entertaining game and that Arsenal finds a way to turn the record book upside down.


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The Kroenkes Are Not Joshing with the Club And That’s All We Could Ask For


With hundreds of millions in turnover every year, Arsenal football club needs responsible leadership and a value-based custodian. In an ideal world the club is owned by the supporters and the leadership – selected by the supporters – acts on the supporters’ needs and aspirations, both short term and long term. This model is near impossible at Arsenal now and the next good thing is a majority shareholder who is in it for the long term, respects the club’s history and values and have high ambitions for silverware.

Bergkampesque is an independent blog and is not financed by anybody or advertising. It is focused on the beauty of the Arsenal game and not afraid to give our version of the truth. 🙂 I have always said that I liked the way the club is managed and had nothing to complain about. We have a financial self-sustaining model and are developing exciting youth players, buy one or two top quality players every season (recently more) and don’t sell our best players anymore unless it makes sense.

To further support this view, I (TotalArsenal) am putting up a link up of a BBC interview with Josh Kroenke and the rest of the post is a comment made by GoonerEris re the custodianship of the club:

Goonereris’ recent comment:

The criticism of Kroenke for a “lack of investment” or “paying himself huge dividends” have been so misplaced, and I don’t say that in the euphoria of this window but just on the facts.

Since buying up a 62.9% stake in the club in mid-2011 (up from 29.99% he had acquired since 2008), the club started a gradual re-build and investment in people and technology like it had never done. By the close of the summer (transfer window) of 2013/14 season, Arsenal had spent more on players than it did in the last 10 years before his acquisition of a clear majority stake. That means within 3 years of his taking control, we spent more on players than we did for a decade.
The argument may be made that the period coincided with the rising player fees and that Arsenal were restricted in spending because of the stadium project, but the facts are the facts. Plus, we had the restrictions placed by repaying loans from the stadium project up until 2016, and still haven’t completed repayment of the loan, anyway.

As for the accusation of dividend payments, that was a farce as it turned out. The club has held onto a policy of no dividend taking, up until the man got full control (now, we can’t know and shouldn’t care since he owns the club, entirely, in effect). At the start of 2014 year, a £3m payment to one of his companies for Advisory/Consultancy services was seen by the AST as him taking out money and though the club defended it as a mere token considering the extent of beneficial consultancy services (re-jig of our commercial play, expansion of sources of revenues, Data analytics, new fan base build-up, etc.) received from the company, the payment was stopped.

Fact is Stan Kroenke has defied the naysayers and stayed the course, respecting the club’s philosophies and values, in the face of growing pressure to become a sugar daddy owner. I have always felt, if and when the times call for it, he is unlikely to hold back personal funds to support the club. The fans need to give him a chance. Sorry, that was a bit long but I have had to make this case to someone years back and assured him we will have successes under this owner, if we stay patient.


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